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#1 Estate

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 07:40 AM

Ok members, there was a thread about how the Lakers would match up against OKC? All the comments and input were very knowledgeable, so I decides to start this thread.

No disrespect OKC, they got game, but if the Lakers get pass OKC and meets the Miami heat in the finals? KOBE Vs. LEBRON.... How would the new Lakers match up against the Heats.

And will the Lakers match up better against the Heats or OKC....who would they have a tougher game with? Basketball is all about match up, like chess play.

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 12:25 PM

To be honest, I think that Miami is an easier match-up than OKC...Yes, I'm being serious. Miami doesn't have the defensive bigs that OKC does. We already exposed the Heat last year when we dominated them in the paint, and everytime they sent some help, we made them pay by drilling three's. I see the same thing this year if Meeks, Kobe and Nash can make it rain from three when Miami sends help into the paint. Main issue with both teams is stopping the transition points.

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 12:46 PM

To be honest, I think that Miami is an easier match-up than OKC...Yes, I'm being serious. Miami doesn't have the defensive bigs that OKC does. We already exposed the Heat last year when we dominated them in the paint, and everytime they sent some help, we made them pay by drilling three's. I see the same thing this year if Meeks, Kobe and Nash can make it rain from three when Miami sends help into the paint. Main issue with both teams is stopping the transition points.



I've been hearing that OKC may be letting go of Perkins. If this is true, I don't really see any team capable of defending or protecting against offensive boards in the league.

On the bad side, we have two players in which minute-management will be of utmost importance, and I am weary of coach Browns sheepish attitude and lack of command over Kobe.

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 01:09 PM

Player                 G   GS   MP  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Steve Nash          1152  993 31.4 5.3 10.7 .491 1.4 3.3 .428 2.5 2.8 .904 0.5 2.5 3.0 8.6 0.7 0.1 2.9 1.6 14.5
Mario Chalmers       289  196 27.1 2.9  6.9 .419 1.3 3.6 .359 1.3 1.6 .781 0.3 2.0 2.4 3.6 1.5 0.1 1.8 2.6  8.3

Dwyane Wade          596  588 37.2 8.9 18.3 .486 0.5 1.9 .291 6.8 8.9 .770 1.3 3.7 5.1 6.2 1.8 1.0 3.5 2.5 25.2
Kobe Bryant         1161 1013 36.5 8.9 19.6 .453 1.3 3.9 .337 6.4 7.6 .838 1.2 4.1 5.3 4.7 1.5 0.5 3.0 2.6 25.4

LeBron James         689  688 39.9 9.9 20.4 .483 1.3 4.0 .331 6.6 8.8 .746 1.2 5.9 7.2 6.9 1.7 0.8 3.3 1.9 27.6
Metta World Peace    827  766 33.6 5.1 12.2 .418 1.2 3.4 .342 2.9 4.0 .715 1.2 3.5 4.7 3.0 1.9 0.6 2.0 2.7 14.2

Player            G  GS   MP  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB  TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Pau Gasol       796 790 36.0 7.1 13.6 .520 0.0 0.1 .232 4.5 6.0 .752 2.8 6.4  9.2 3.2 0.5 1.7 2.3 2.3 18.7
Chris Bosh      643 631 36.7 7.0 14.3 .492 0.1 0.4 .289 5.6 7.0 .799 2.5 6.6  9.1 2.1 0.8 1.1 2.1 2.5 19.8
Dwight Howard   621 620 36.2 6.5 11.3 .577 0.0 0.1 .030 5.4 9.2 .588 3.6 9.3 13.0 1.5 1.0 2.2 3.1 3.2 18.4
Joel Anthony    308 107 18.4 1.0  1.9 .509 0.0 0.0      0.7 1.1 .668 1.5 2.0  3.4 0.2 0.3 1.3 0.6 2.2  2.7

basic stats. i would go us

Edited by Lagunero, August 31, 2012 - 01:20 PM.

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 01:32 PM

I've been hearing that OKC may be letting go of Perkins. If this is true, I don't really see any team capable of defending or protecting against offensive boards in the league.

On the bad side, we have two players in which minute-management will be of utmost importance, and I am weary of coach Browns sheepish attitude and lack of command over Kobe.


OKC will not be letting go of Perkins. Any chance of that happening went out the window when Mitch landed Dwight. Perkins is OKC's best option in defending Dwight and I'm sure they wouldn't trust Ibaka to be their lone post defender against Dwight and Pau. Perkins stays out of necessity.

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 01:35 PM

So they go over the cap? I was under the impression that they had to part with either Ibaka, Harden, or Perkins.

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 01:43 PM

So they go over the cap? I was under the impression that they had to part with either Ibaka, Harden, or Perkins.

Well next offseason things will be much clearer because Harden's contract will be up and Perkins will still be on the books for about $16.5 Million. Harden may play himself out of OKC's price range and Perkins may prove to not be worth keeping around based on how well he can defend the better bigs in the West.

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 02:18 PM

Lebron will have a tough scoring game with defense. Metta will defend his perimeter shooting, try preventing him to go to the basket. If he does, Dwight will be there in the post.

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 02:25 PM

Nash > Chalmers

Kobe > Wade

Metta < Lebron

Pau > Haslem (think they're starting him at the four and Bosh at the five???)

Howard > Bosh

Pau Gasol is GONE


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Posted August 31, 2012 - 07:08 PM

Sadly i cant wait to see this miami starting line up ...

Wade
Allen
James
Lewis
Bosh

As much as i hate the heat. I think that will be an exciting starting line
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Posted August 31, 2012 - 07:11 PM

Lebron will have a tough scoring game with defense. Metta will defend his perimeter shooting, try preventing him to go to the basket. If he does, Dwight will be there in the post.


This. I love that we got dwight for the fact he is the player that lebron struggles with most.

Also people say that lebron can play one through 5 I want to see him try to back down dwight and guard him in the post I would laugh lol.

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 07:55 PM

Sadly i cant wait to see this miami starting line up ...

Wade
Allen
James
Lewis
Bosh

As much as i hate the heat. I think that will be an exciting starting line


Allen isn't starting and neither is Lewis.

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 08:42 PM

Better than anybody else in the league IMO. Miami struggles with dominant bigs and we have the most dominant big in the league in Dwight Howard and elite points guards which we also have in Steve Nash. Our bench is every bit as good as theirs IMO.
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Posted August 31, 2012 - 11:08 PM

Player                 G   GS   MP  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Steve Nash          1152  993 31.4 5.3 10.7 .491 1.4 3.3 .428 2.5 2.8 .904 0.5 2.5 3.0 8.6 0.7 0.1 2.9 1.6 14.5
Mario Chalmers       289  196 27.1 2.9  6.9 .419 1.3 3.6 .359 1.3 1.6 .781 0.3 2.0 2.4 3.6 1.5 0.1 1.8 2.6  8.3

Dwyane Wade          596  588 37.2 8.9 18.3 .486 0.5 1.9 .291 6.8 8.9 .770 1.3 3.7 5.1 6.2 1.8 1.0 3.5 2.5 25.2
Kobe Bryant         1161 1013 36.5 8.9 19.6 .453 1.3 3.9 .337 6.4 7.6 .838 1.2 4.1 5.3 4.7 1.5 0.5 3.0 2.6 25.4

LeBron James         689  688 39.9 9.9 20.4 .483 1.3 4.0 .331 6.6 8.8 .746 1.2 5.9 7.2 6.9 1.7 0.8 3.3 1.9 27.6
Metta World Peace    827  766 33.6 5.1 12.2 .418 1.2 3.4 .342 2.9 4.0 .715 1.2 3.5 4.7 3.0 1.9 0.6 2.0 2.7 14.2

Player            G  GS   MP  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB  TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Pau Gasol       796 790 36.0 7.1 13.6 .520 0.0 0.1 .232 4.5 6.0 .752 2.8 6.4  9.2 3.2 0.5 1.7 2.3 2.3 18.7
Chris Bosh      643 631 36.7 7.0 14.3 .492 0.1 0.4 .289 5.6 7.0 .799 2.5 6.6  9.1 2.1 0.8 1.1 2.1 2.5 19.8
Dwight Howard   621 620 36.2 6.5 11.3 .577 0.0 0.1 .030 5.4 9.2 .588 3.6 9.3 13.0 1.5 1.0 2.2 3.1 3.2 18.4
Joel Anthony    308 107 18.4 1.0  1.9 .509 0.0 0.0      0.7 1.1 .668 1.5 2.0  3.4 0.2 0.3 1.3 0.6 2.2  2.7

basic stats. i would go us



how is showing career stats to prove we are better. So if we were to have Kareem come back we would defiantly be number 1 right .

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Posted September 01, 2012 - 08:32 PM

how is showing career stats to prove we are better. So if we were to have Kareem come back we would defiantly be number 1 right .


stats dont lie. its all about match ups. :unsure:

we have advantages in 3 positions imo. and yes, if we had kareem we would be number one he was that good.

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Posted September 01, 2012 - 08:34 PM

Player                 G   GS   MP  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Steve Nash          1152  993 31.4 5.3 10.7 .491 1.4 3.3 .428 2.5 2.8 .904 0.5 2.5 3.0 8.6 0.7 0.1 2.9 1.6 14.5
Mario Chalmers       289  196 27.1 2.9  6.9 .419 1.3 3.6 .359 1.3 1.6 .781 0.3 2.0 2.4 3.6 1.5 0.1 1.8 2.6  8.3

Dwyane Wade          596  588 37.2 8.9 18.3 .486 0.5 1.9 .291 6.8 8.9 .770 1.3 3.7 5.1 6.2 1.8 1.0 3.5 2.5 25.2
Kobe Bryant         1161 1013 36.5 8.9 19.6 .453 1.3 3.9 .337 6.4 7.6 .838 1.2 4.1 5.3 4.7 1.5 0.5 3.0 2.6 25.4

LeBron James         689  688 39.9 9.9 20.4 .483 1.3 4.0 .331 6.6 8.8 .746 1.2 5.9 7.2 6.9 1.7 0.8 3.3 1.9 27.6
Metta World Peace    827  766 33.6 5.1 12.2 .418 1.2 3.4 .342 2.9 4.0 .715 1.2 3.5 4.7 3.0 1.9 0.6 2.0 2.7 14.2

Player            G  GS   MP  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB  TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Pau Gasol       796 790 36.0 7.1 13.6 .520 0.0 0.1 .232 4.5 6.0 .752 2.8 6.4  9.2 3.2 0.5 1.7 2.3 2.3 18.7
Chris Bosh      643 631 36.7 7.0 14.3 .492 0.1 0.4 .289 5.6 7.0 .799 2.5 6.6  9.1 2.1 0.8 1.1 2.1 2.5 19.8
Dwight Howard   621 620 36.2 6.5 11.3 .577 0.0 0.1 .030 5.4 9.2 .588 3.6 9.3 13.0 1.5 1.0 2.2 3.1 3.2 18.4
Joel Anthony    308 107 18.4 1.0  1.9 .509 0.0 0.0      0.7 1.1 .668 1.5 2.0  3.4 0.2 0.3 1.3 0.6 2.2  2.7

basic stats. i would go us

Career stats is your argument? You kidding. I agree that I would say the lakers match up quite well, but to base that presumption off of CAREER stats is kinda dumb.

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Posted September 01, 2012 - 08:41 PM

Career stats is your argument? You kidding. I agree that I would say the lakers match up quite well, but to base that presumption off of CAREER stats is kinda dumb.


yes stats.
there's other factors that take into account when judging players going head to head. (defense, clutch situations late in games, defense and other attributes) honestly i didn't feel like posting the head to head stats and advance stats when i made that post at the time, like for example nash vs chalmers ect...

I just feel confident in our team that we will be able to beat them. the only players that scares me is lebron.

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Posted September 01, 2012 - 08:42 PM

If your gonna use stats should prob use last years to see how they match up right now instead of over there careers imo.

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Posted September 01, 2012 - 08:46 PM

If your gonna use stats should prob use last years to see how they match up right now instead of over there careers imo.


yeah you got a point bro. :D

i just want the season to start already!

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Posted September 02, 2012 - 03:19 AM

Sadly i cant wait to see this miami starting line up ...

Wade
Allen
James
Lewis
Bosh

As much as i hate the heat. I think that will be an exciting starting line

Ray won't start




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