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#41 Lakers4Life

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Posted June 22, 2012 - 09:37 PM

His Duncan 2.0. He will be OKC for life. I dont see that changing. Not to mention OKC having one of the youngest and most talented core ...

Durant 23, Westbrook 23 and Harden 22. PLEASE... there 4 years away from their prime. This team will contend for MANY MANY MANY years. See no reason for any of them leaving. Harden is the only one thtas a "maybe"
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Posted June 23, 2012 - 10:50 PM

You go where you can win. That's just the way it is. If Durant doesn't feel he can win in OKC, do you really think he'll be content racking up scoring titles and MVP nods? If that was all it took to satisfy most stars, Shaq would have never left Orlando and James would have never left Cleveland.

Playing in a big market, whether it's LA, NY, DAL, HOU, BOS, or MIA, has nothing to do with it. OKC, the 37th-largest media market in the country, was 3 games from an NBA championship in only their fourth year as a franchise. Right now, Durant's got to be feeling pretty good that he can win there, and who should blame him? But it would be a mistake, I think, to commit him to the list of competitors like John Stockton, who never won a ring but stayed loyal to their city. Especially when he's already plateaued several HoFers already and he's just 23.

Who saw Garnett becoming a Celtic when he was 23?

Edited by Read React, June 23, 2012 - 10:51 PM.


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Posted June 25, 2012 - 08:29 PM

"No man knows what he will do till the right temptation comes." - Henry Howard Beecher


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Posted June 25, 2012 - 08:38 PM

You go where you can win. That's just the way it is. If Durant doesn't feel he can win in OKC, do you really think he'll be content racking up scoring titles and MVP nods? If that was all it took to satisfy most stars, Shaq would have never left Orlando and James would have never left Cleveland.

Playing in a big market, whether it's LA, NY, DAL, HOU, BOS, or MIA, has nothing to do with it. OKC, the 37th-largest media market in the country, was 3 games from an NBA championship in only their fourth year as a franchise. Right now, Durant's got to be feeling pretty good that he can win there, and who should blame him? But it would be a mistake, I think, to commit him to the list of competitors like John Stockton, who never won a ring but stayed loyal to their city. Especially when he's already plateaued several HoFers already and he's just 23.

Who saw Garnett becoming a Celtic when he was 23?


I agree

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Posted June 25, 2012 - 09:04 PM

Theres no way Durant is gonna stay in OKC for his career. After a Finals loss things on a small market team start to change internally. Ask the Cavs about that.
Theres no way Durant will resist playing in the 5 biggest markets eventually.
LA, Chicago, Miami, Dallas and NY.
I honestly believe 100% Durant will be a member of one of those teams in as little as 2 years regardless of the contracts and Sterns meddling and league interference.

The Lakers need to do whatever is possible to position themselves to attain him.


I actually think he is one of the few guys who would stay.

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Posted June 26, 2012 - 11:41 AM

Durant doesn't seem like a player that cares about playing in a "big" market

^^^^Amen he ain't da Big city type, loyalty matters more.

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Posted November 01, 2013 - 11:29 AM

Now that Melo has killed speculation about him jumping teams again by saying....

They pulled all the strings to get me here, and I wanted to be here. And, I mean, I want to retire in New York, let's just be quite frank. I think a lot of people jumped the gun when I said I wanted to be a free agent. And yeah, I want people to come play in New York. I want them to [/size]want to play in New York. I want New York to be that place where, guys want to come play in New York.[/size]
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTDuVxgZsQQ#t=16

http://www.youtube.c...TDuVxgZsQQ#t=16

So I remembered this thread.
All the experts say OKC's window has closed. That they lost to many Chip caliber players and other teams have gotten significantly better.
 
I still believe Durant will move. I said it then, Ill say it now. Hes who we need to cha$e.


Edited by LakersGAFan, November 01, 2013 - 11:31 AM.

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Posted November 01, 2013 - 11:38 AM

He didn't kill any speculation.

LeBron wants to retire in Cleveland. Doesn't mean he didn't go elsewhere when he realized he wasn't winninh a championshup there.

And he is going to say things like 'I want to retire a Knick' because of the hellstorm it would cause if he didn't.

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Posted November 01, 2013 - 11:59 AM

I want to retire in New York, let's just be quite frank.

Thats like saying...PERIOD....end of discussion.

Now maybe Melo has no idea thats what it means...but I dont think hes that stupid. These guys and their reps choose their words specifically.

NY is a major market.

Durant is stuck in a hole...no offense RD. Regardless if they admit it or not....the NBA needs him in LA.


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Posted November 01, 2013 - 12:04 PM

Thats like saying...PERIOD....end of discussion.

Now maybe Melo has no idea thats what it means...but I dont think hes that stupid. These guys and their reps choose their words specifically.

NY is a major market.

Durant is stuck in a hole...no offense RD. Regardless if they admit it or not....the NBA needs him in LA.



Sounds to me like you're just hoping he means it because you don't want Carmelo to be a Laker and want Durant and are search for any syllable. 

I get it. you want to see Durant in purple and gold, who wouldn't.  But also...

Even so, understand what PR is.  Just by telling people he wanted to be a free agent,  it created a media firestorm and a distraction his team doesn't need.  So Carmelo has had to back track and say stuff like "I want to retire a Knick"  he may very well, but that doesn't stop him from leaving.    He didn't say "I'm resigning with the Knicks for sure."  He said "I want to retire a Knick."  Just like Dwight said it "would be great if his name was in the rafters with the Lakers legends" and how he and the Lakers had "years to work together."  so take each thing with a grain of salt.  "I want to retire a Knick" doesn't mean "I'm staying" as his retirement is a good 7-8 years away.

Retirement is at the end of his career, he's got about 7 more years before that likely happens.

7 years is a long time.      He's a free agent now and if the Knicks aren't gonna be winning anytime soon he is going to leave.  He can always come back and retire like LeBron could in Cleveland.  

But he doesn't have to worry about retirement for another 7-8 years.   He's got about 2 more contracts that he could sign before that time so "I want to retire a Knick" really doesn't mean anything.


Edited by Majesty, November 01, 2013 - 12:08 PM.

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Posted November 01, 2013 - 12:15 PM

Okc basically held ibaka as a priority over harden and recently let Kevin martin go.. with the way that organization handles things I wouldn't at all be surprised if he ended up playing elsewhere

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Posted November 01, 2013 - 12:20 PM

They could have amnestied Perkins and paid Harden but nope.... Perkins is still there and Harden is gone.


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Posted November 01, 2013 - 12:47 PM

Video with Royce Young (beatwriter for OKC) http://www.youtube.c...h?v=KEuyJci1TcI

 

There was a lot more to that Harden trade than just finances.  Maybe Harden wanted to be a star?  Maybe he wasn't down for being the 3rd wheel for the next 4 years of his young career.


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Posted November 01, 2013 - 12:57 PM

Harden was already playing 30+ mins per game and the teams third leading scorer.  He was anything but just a third wheel, he was someone that they played the lineup of Durant, Westbrook, Harden often, and was the team that finished games.  He was already becoming a star, and he allowed Westbrook to play like a 2.

 

It was another big three that worked and was actually homegrown not traded for, but OKC broke them apart and now are gonna suffer because of it.   They could have had the luxury of a big three they drafted and brought in and groomed there in OKC and made a statement.  But nope.


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Posted November 01, 2013 - 01:12 PM

Majesty. I got nothing against Melo. Perfect world get them both...lol. But he's staying put it sounds like to me. I believe KD will be motivated to leave OKC after this year.

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Posted November 01, 2013 - 01:13 PM

How do you build a winning team long term on 3 wings?  Perkins was solid for them when they played bigger teams.  Of course he looked useless vs Miami.  He was mainly brought over to combat us b/c of Bynum and Pau.  You lock up 50M or so in 3 wings then 11M in Ibaka how do you improve?  Your team cannot be flexible with 3 wings where 2 of them dominate the ball.  Eventually teams like Miami either figure them out or they just "out perimeter" with better inside help. 

 

Being a 3rd wheel and being the guy are 2 different things.  Maybe Harden wanted to be great like Kobe instead of having his first 7 years defined as being the 3rd wheel.  We have seen how hard it has been for Kobe to shake the whole Shaq thing.  So again, why does the burden only fall on OKC? 

Harden was already playing 30+ mins per game and the teams third leading scorer.  He was anything but just a third wheel, he was someone that they played the lineup of Durant, Westbrook, Harden often, and was the team that finished games.  He was already becoming a star, and he allowed Westbrook to play like a 2.

 

It was another big three that worked and was actually homegrown not traded for, but OKC broke them apart and now are gonna suffer because of it.   They could have had the luxury of a big three they drafted and brought in and groomed there in OKC and made a statement.  But nope.


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Posted November 01, 2013 - 01:14 PM

I bet 5 bucks you didnt watch or digest anything said in that video either but carry on with bad information if you like

Harden was already playing 30+ mins per game and the teams third leading scorer.  He was anything but just a third wheel, he was someone that they played the lineup of Durant, Westbrook, Harden often, and was the team that finished games.  He was already becoming a star, and he allowed Westbrook to play like a 2.

 

It was another big three that worked and was actually homegrown not traded for, but OKC broke them apart and now are gonna suffer because of it.   They could have had the luxury of a big three they drafted and brought in and groomed there in OKC and made a statement.  But nope.


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Posted November 01, 2013 - 01:32 PM

Majesty. I got nothing against Melo. Perfect world get them both...lol. But he's staying put it sounds like to me. I believe KD will be motivated to leave OKC after this year.


You gotta see that there is double talk really and it's interesting, the way that free agents can say something without really committing.

Melo says "I want to retire a Knick."     Yet it doesn't relate to him staying.  But also notice he didn't say "I will retire a Knick."   He said "I want"  want is ever changing ;)   That's why he said it.  

If it was up to Carmelo the Knicks would win the championship this year and free agents would sign there in this off-season.     Of course, he shouldn't want anything else for the team he's currently on. 

But if the reality collides with what he 'wants' to happen with the Knicks association and it becomes apparent it won't, then what he 'wants' from the Knicks won't matter because his 'want' to win a championship will take precedence over that.

 

But as of right now Carmelo is a Knick so of course he'd want the Knicks to have a great year, and then for free agents to want to come.  But if that doesn't happen he's looking at other options.  That's why he said "want" not "will" because 'want' leaves it up to the Knicks to make it happen, 'will' means that regardless on whether they do or not he'd be staying.   But it DOES depend what they do.    If they get knocked out in the first or second round again Carmelo is good as gone.

 

 


I personally like what Durant said more, but NO ONE is covering it on ESPN ;)

 

 

“I like where I’m at right now. I enjoy playing for OKC,” he said. “As of today, I love it there, man. I want to be there. I love the fans, I love my team, I love everything about the city. I don’t have any plans to move.”


THAT... THAT.... is something you can make a story out of if it comes to Durant leaving OKC in the future.    If Carmelo said "as of today" how many stories do you think ESPN would make of it? ;) 

They only mention Durant leaving because of Jalen Rose predicting it.       But "as of today" never got coverage.  

Basically because the story HAS to be on Carmelo potentially leaving and going to the Lakers, because that's the biggest sports story right now.   The Lakers are big time box office.  So keeping the story on them whether positive or negative they are always connected and if Carmelo goes to the Lakers then it becomes the biggest story on ESPN.  If LeBron goes to the Lakers and Kobe is still there the world stops. 


So when it comes down to it the story is gonna focus on Carmelo, who had free agent issues prior and was the first free agent guy that was made to suffer in the media because of LeBron James 'decision' and traded before he could make that decision in the off-season.

 

But no one is assuming that Durant is going to the Lakers, so thus he can say "As of today" and no one will hear a word in the mainstream sports coverage. 


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Posted November 01, 2013 - 02:14 PM

Isn't the bigger factor whatever happens to Westbrook in the meantime?



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Posted November 01, 2013 - 02:40 PM

Isn't the bigger factor whatever happens to Westbrook in the meantime?



Well Westbrook's contract ends a year after Durant's, thus Durant is a free agent first.


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