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#1 LALakersFan4Life

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 07:51 PM

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By David Lord & Mike Fisher
DallasBasketball.com
Posted Jun 7, 2012

Conventional wisdom says the Mavs can't trade Lamar Odom back to the Lakers in expedient fashion. But we've discovered a loophole. Involved is negotiating with Odom for a revised deadline date - and sources tell DB.com that the Mavs have initiated talks to do just that. Here's the inside story of what's up - and what can happen as the Mavs work to turn Odom into a perfect-fit trade asset:

What will happen with Lamar Odom? The Dallas Mavericks don't want him back. He loves LA and Lakers coach Mike Brown has recently expressed interest in having him back. Yet it seems rules are in the way right now to make it easy for the Mavs to move him, or for him to play for the Lakers.

But DallasBasketball.com has exclusively learned that the possibilities and his destination may change significantly, and that the cogs are in motion so that the change may come soon.

On Wednesday the LA Times' Mike Bresnahan and Mark Medina wrote the following:

As for Odom, the NBA is standing firm on the relatively new rule that players cannot return to their old teams for a full year after being traded, a change made in the new collective-bargaining agreement last December.

Players formerly had to wait one month before rejoining teams that traded them, sometimes negotiating quick buyouts from their new team to go back to their old one, a scheme the NBA thwarted by creating the revision in December.

(Odom) was traded to Dallas on Dec. 11 for a first-round pick that the Lakers subsequently sent to Houston in the Derek Fisher trade.

Odom would have to miss about six weeks of the season if he waited to join the Lakers in December, an unlikely event according to a person familiar with the situation.

The Lakers could offer Odom the $3-million mini mid-level exception next season or $1.4 million, the veteran's minimum for a player with his experience.

All of that is true at the moment -- as Bresnahan and Medina noted, Odom (as a multi-year contract player) can't be waived by Dallas and signed by LA until December. But ....

Dallasbasketball.com has learned that the Mavs are working on taking a significant step that would allow Odom's return to the Lakers this summer, opening up multiple avenues.

A highly-placed league insider tells us the Mavs are already pursuing a revision to Odom's contract that would move his deadline to buy out his last year at $2.4 million from June 29, 2012 to some time in July, a contractual change that is permitted by the league with mutual agreement from both player and team.

That would make a major difference in Odom's future possibilities, especially as it pertains to the Lakers.

The primary difference that revision permits is to open up a trade of Odom from Dallas to LA, which is not only his simplest route to the Lakers, but in many ways is the best choice for all parties involved. That option is currently blocked by the rule that disallows a player to be traded back to the same team in the same NBA season (which ends June 30), and the Mavs would not want to keep him past the June 29 deadline and take the chance of being committed to his $8.2 million salary for next season.

Would Dallas and LA shy away from helping each other? Probably not. At the moment their path to the top isn't blocked by each other, but by OKC and SA, and all they are worried about is helping their own cause in finding a way to pass the Thunder and the Spurs.

Is there a reason for Odom and agent Schwartz to turn down Dallas’ proposal? We don’t think so. One, Jeff Schwartz (who also reps Deron Williams and Jason Kidd) has a solid relationship with the Mavs. And two, Odom might want to explore free agency if he thinks he can make more than his $8.2 million. But the market (and his performance in Dallas) wouldn’t seem to merit such a raise. Remember, too: Even if the Lakers consider him worth more than $8.2 mil, all they have available is the aforementioned $3 million mini-MLE.

This trick is the way for Odom to get his team and his money.

For Dallas, that change opens the door to an eager taker for a player they no longer want. They wouldn't have to pay his $2.4 million buyout fee or bribe some other team to do so, because there would be no buyout. And by moving the time frame to July, a trade to LA could become part of the salary-matching for the Mavs in a three-way deal. (Think of Marion coming to Dallas for Stackhouse's similar contract, or Chandler to Dallas for Dampier.)

July 1 begins a very active free agency environment. For Dallas that time focuses on Deron Williams. But the transformation of Odom's contract into an asset (in another form, as just an expiring, we’ve termed it, “LOAF’’) suddenly ranks high in importance, too.

For the Lakers, they would get Odom for a full season including training camp, giving him plenty of time to learn the new system under Mike Brown, a coach he's never played for. In addition, it would allow LA the ability to preserve their MLE for a different addition.

And for Odom, he gets to the team he wants, and he plays there for $8.2 million rather than $3 million or less.

Everybody wins.

There are other ways this deadline revision could help Odom get to the Lakers. But even if LA doesn't trade for him, a revision makes it much easier for the Mavs to trade him, with his large almost-vanishing contract becoming a huge trade-matching tool. Even if he gets traded to another team besides LA and then waived, the one-year rule would no longer prevent him from going to the Lakers, as the restriction from returning after a trade-and-waiver would then be applied to Dallas rather than LA.

Odom seemingly has to wait until December if he wants to go to the Lakers, and has to play there for peanuts? The Mavs have Odom as a liability rather than an asset? The Lakers can't get Odom until December and have to use their MLE to do so? Those may have been true yesterday, but the Mavs are already working to erase all of those and change the summer landscape significantly for everyone.


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Posted June 07, 2012 - 07:59 PM

Interesting news, but 'everybody wins'? Please, not at 8.2 million, no thanks.

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 08:32 PM

Interesting news, but 'everybody wins'? Please, not at 8.2 million, no thanks.

My thoughts exactly.

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 08:47 PM

Interesting news, but 'everybody wins'? Please, not at 8.2 million, no thanks.


Agree they are trying to sucker us in
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Posted June 07, 2012 - 09:03 PM

I would let him play here for 8 million IF we unload Gasol's contract for other players that are around the difference of Gasol/Odom's contract (if that makes sense).

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 09:07 PM

I get what you're saying WC. I actually might agree with that, might.

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 09:15 PM

Only if they take back McRoberts and Blake for Odom and nothing more.

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 09:21 PM

Only if they take back McRoberts and Blake for Odom and nothing more.


I'd do that. Dead weight for possible production
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Posted June 07, 2012 - 09:45 PM

Leave Odom alone. If he comes here and his skills have decreased what are we going to do then? No one is going to trade for him not after how he acted in Dallas. I think this is a large risk medium reward situation. We need to look for younger players.

Edited by JayTheGreat, June 07, 2012 - 09:46 PM.


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Posted June 07, 2012 - 10:12 PM

IDk this just seems like to much work on a player who just doesn't seem worth it. He will probably just come back and play like crap. If we can get him vet min then yes but that is it and not a penny lower. Focus on Deron Williams

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 10:24 PM

I'd do that. Dead weight for possible production


The Lakers would also save 8 million next season by making this deal.

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 10:53 PM

It would also open up trading Bynum for deron williams.

With odom in fold you can either keep pau at center or trade pau for Tyson chandler and Landry fields

But my favorite would be to keep pau at center start odom

Gasol
Odom
Artest
Kobe
Williams

Resign hill and sessions, find a way to bring in Beasley and you have a hell of a bench. Sign delonte west and you have a championship contender
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Posted June 07, 2012 - 10:56 PM

^ Not bad, not bad at all. I like your thinking, but way easier said than done of course unfortunately.

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 10:58 PM

The Lakers are not trading Bynum first before trading Gasol. Gasol will be traded first before anyone because of multiple reasons. He is past his prime, over paid for a 3rd option, does not show up in the playoffs, and his role on the Lakers will decrease as Bynum gets better.

People need to stop thinking the Lakers are keeping Gasol instead of Bynum. If the Lakers felt Gasol was better than Bynum and could help them win a championship... why didn't they offer Bynum in a package for CP3 instead of giving up Gasol and Odom?

The Lakers need to add young players to the team and get rid of some of the older players like Gasol.

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 11:03 PM

I would rather keep Bynum than pau. But deron is a Better player than Bynum so is swap them. Deron would make pau better anyways.

Obviously if you could get deron without giving up Bynum that would be the deal to do. Just overall talent wise that's a better team

But I'm just trying to be realistic about what it would take to get deron who IMO is a better investment than chris Paul if you consider chris Paul's degenerative knee
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Posted June 07, 2012 - 11:17 PM

Gasol
Odom
Artest
Kobe
Williams

Resign hill and sessions, find a way to bring in Beasley and you have a hell of a bench. Sign delonte west and you have a championship contender


I'd be happy with the above.

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 11:29 PM

I would love to have Odom back... Dunno why.

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Posted June 07, 2012 - 11:58 PM

Maybe the writers of this article missed the memo that Lakers are trying to cut back salary. Theres a reason the Lakers shipped Odom out for the TPE, now they expect them to bring him back for 8 mil? lol
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Posted June 08, 2012 - 12:41 AM

It would also open up trading Bynum for deron williams.

With odom in fold you can either keep pau at center or trade pau for Tyson chandler and Landry fields

But my favorite would be to keep pau at center start odom

Gasol
Odom
Artest
Kobe
Williams

Resign hill and sessions, find a way to bring in Beasley and you have a hell of a bench. Sign delonte west and you have a championship contender



That is not a championship contender.......
we'd still have the same problem we had this season A soft big Man and a Lazy Big Man
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Posted June 08, 2012 - 01:02 AM

That is not a championship contender.......


I think it is. It's not like we're going to land 2 superstars and improve our bench unit ten fold. Lets be realistic here.




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