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#1 LakersGAFan

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:21 PM

real talk now.
Eli = 100% 1st time ballot HOFer w/ 2 Super Bowl rings.
Peyton is debatable.

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:24 PM

uh no.

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:25 PM

No way. Peyton is not debatable for the HOF. He is going to the HOF

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:28 PM

LT WTF?!?!? Peyton with the teams Eli has had would be more than 2 rings


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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:28 PM

peyton wont be a 1st time ballet HOFer. not for 1 SB and his accomplishments. the other selections will be deeper. But when you have 2 SB rings, your a shoe in.

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:29 PM

Peyton is 100x the QB Eli is

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:29 PM

LT WTF?!?!? Peyton with the teams Eli has had would be more than 2 rings

I agree. but HOF voting doesnt care about that stuff.

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:29 PM

Peyton is debatable.

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:35 PM

why would Peyton be a sure fire HOF 1st round inductee?
Other than 1 SB win and the back to back 4000 yard season record. He doesnt have other prestigious accomplishments. not on paper. And on paper for HOF voting is what matters. sure he will make it in eventually. but so will Trent Dilfer who also has 1 SB ring.

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:37 PM

Peyton is 100x the QB Eli is

yep. your right. but when its time to vote years from now. 2 SB's mean more.

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:46 PM

whoa whoa whoa!!! Slow your role LT! Eli is elite but Peyton Manning has done so much more than Eli (minus SB wins) and Peyton is a SUREFIRE 1ST BALLAT HOFer.

As of right now, I'd take Eli over Peyton because...he's younger, a little more clutch, and more mobile, and more importantly...HEALTHY.

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:48 PM

Peyton with the teams Eli has had would be more than 2 rings


don't know about all of that.

Peyton has had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:49 PM

Peyton is 100x the QB Eli is


not really

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:50 PM

why would Peyton be a sure fire HOF 1st round inductee?
Other than 1 SB win and the back to back 4000 yard season record. He doesnt have other prestigious accomplishments. not on paper. And on paper for HOF voting is what matters. sure he will make it in eventually. but so will Trent Dilfer who also has 1 SB ring.


You can't compare dilfer and Peyton when it comes to play, accomplishments or how voting will go


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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:51 PM

yep. your right. but when its time to vote years from now. 2 SB's mean more.


Peyton has been an elite QB in the league for far too long to not be a HOFer. Dude has 4 MVPs.

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:51 PM

don't know about all of that.

Peyton has had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne


Thing is they had him too. Now that we see how the team did all year this year who's to say maybe both of them would not even be starters on other teams an really Peyton made them who they are.

Also Peyton has never had a D that Eli has had to fall back on


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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:52 PM

You can't compare dilfer and Peyton when it comes to play, accomplishments or how voting will go


Trent Dilfer is not even remotely close to Peyton Manning. Dilfer was simply a serviceable QB with a monstrous defense

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:54 PM

Peyton has 4 MVPs, 11 Pro Bowl selections, 5 1st team all pro selections, 3 second team all pro selections, and 6 AFC player of the year selections. His individual accomplishments make him first ballot.

He was also ranked as the 8th greatest NFL player of all time from the NFL network when they did a list in 2010. So, I think the media gets how good he is.

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 07:59 PM

Thing is they had him too. Now that we see how the team did all year this year who's to say maybe both of them would not even be starters on other teams an really Peyton made them who they are.

Also Peyton has never had a D that Eli has had to fall back on


Yeah but the initial argument is stating Peyton's case. Eli has NEVER EVER EVER EVER had the kind of WRs that Peyton has had. That's not to say he doesn't have good receivers (because he does) but Peyton has been surrounded by HOFers: Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark. And, some of those defenses that Peyton has had weren't too shabby at all; Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Bob Sanders, etc. The problem I had/have with the Pats/Colts is that they abandon the running game often and/or don't invest in it. This isn't Oklahoma in the big 12; you have to control the TOP and give your defense time to rest and to make the opponents defense tired as well. For example, when Peyton and Tom do playaction fakes...why should the defense bite? There's no threat of a running game.

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Posted February 05, 2012 - 08:13 PM

Yeah but the initial argument is stating Peyton's case. Eli has NEVER EVER EVER EVER had the kind of WRs that Peyton has had. That's not to say he doesn't have good receivers (because he does) but Peyton has been surrounded by HOFers: Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark. And, some of those defenses that Peyton has had weren't too shabby at all; Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Bob Sanders, etc. The problem I had/have with the Pats/Colts is that they abandon the running game often and/or don't invest in it. This isn't Oklahoma in the big 12; you have to control the TOP and give your defense time to rest and to make the opponents defense tired as well. For example, when Peyton and Tom do playaction fakes...why should the defense bite? There's no threat of a running game.


We've had great individuals on D but never a great all around D. Our running game has always been trash when the only good consistent rb we had in James was let go.

I still think Peyton made Reggie and Harrison who they are though. Without him they don't get as good as they are. He even made Austin Collie decent.


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