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#181 BasketballIQ

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Posted December 16, 2013 - 07:03 PM

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Posted December 16, 2013 - 07:40 PM

I think Kobe should just shut it down this season. Cut some weight, and regain some athleticism, work on his game. No way we're getting past the 10th seed this season. I hate to say it, but I think ESPN was generous when they said Kobe was ranked #25. Shot is off, quickness has been seriously severed, and cannot play a single ounce of defense.

 

He may tease us with some 20 point games, but if it continues like this... Then we're screwed. I'm pretty sure if Kobe cannot regain form this season, he will call it off. Get wll soon, Kob.

 

I know this is a doom and gloom post, but with D'Antoni, all our point guards being out, Gasol's childs play, and an extremely competetive west, it will be too tough for him.

 

If he takes the season off, he will never be the same player again. I know it's a lost season and all, but he needs to play to get back in shape and regain muscle memory. The way the season is going, Kobe won't have to play 40 a night.



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Posted December 16, 2013 - 11:10 PM

he's depending on Gasol too much while other guys around him are balling.  He should be getting more passes to Hill and Young instead of wasting them on Gasol. 


"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted December 16, 2013 - 11:21 PM

One of the things that's discouraging to me is a lot of his misses aren't just off by a little, but by a lot. When he's missing, he's often missing BADLY. Still have faith though that this is all about time. Sad thing is I just don't know how long it's gonna' take.


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Posted December 16, 2013 - 11:29 PM

One of the things that's discouraging to me is a lot of his misses aren't just off by a little, but by a lot. When he's missing, he's often missing BADLY. Still have faith though that this is all about time. Sad thing is I just don't know how long it's gonna' take.


yeah, he's playing bad some games and Gasol as well, the problem seems to be they start solely going through each other when both are having bad games, more so Kobe to Pau than anything else and at the end of shot clocks Pau throws it back to Kobe for a long jumper.



If anything this butt kicking Kobe is getting early is able to shake the 'mellow'ness about it. 

Kobe obviously gets that he's part of the reason for struggle.  Not because of how bad he's playing but his monopolizing to Gasol trying to get him going while leaving people like Young who was hitting nearly everything today out to dry to try to force it to Gasol so Mitch doesn't trade him.

The problem is the more Kobe does it and Gasol is unsuccessful or the more turnovers, Mitch is going to realize it, he's smart enough to get that.  And if Kobe having to force the ball to Gasol every single time down is causing the team to struggle because Gasol can't help Kobe nearly as much as Kobe is trying to help him then Gasol will be shipped out faster to rid Kobe of that "distraction".

So I hope this whole experience is pushing and motivating Kobe even harder.  

 

Kobe is stressing patience right now, not with the ruthlessness of last year, but he's stressing patience because he's thinking about Pau.  The thing is, we don't have time to wait for Gasol to "get it" the moment Kobe said 'screw Pau' last game and focused on everyone else and getting easy shots for himself what happened? We won.  When he force fed it to Gasol today when him and Gasol were off what happened?  The Hawks got closer...and closer..and closer.. then their lead got larger..and larger.. and larger.  And Kobe kept playing with this mentality and focus of "if I can JUST get Gasol going we can do this!" but it was leaving everyone else out to dry that helped carry this team while Gasol for the most part was a non factor early in the season. 

Stop rewarding Gasol when he wasn't even the reason the team was winning games when you were gone!! Feed it to Meeks and Young and Hill and Henry, THOSE are the guys that carried this darn team, not Gasol. 


"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted December 16, 2013 - 11:32 PM

it hurts to see my hero struggling so badly.


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Posted December 17, 2013 - 10:46 AM

Kobe bruh, I love you and all but I think you shouldn't be playing right now. I think you shouldn't be the one getting isos drawn up for on the team. I think you should call it quits for a couple months and get yourself right, cause for some reason MDA likes playing you 30+ minutes and I don't want to see you rupture your other Achilles

#188 Majesty

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Posted December 17, 2013 - 08:54 PM

much better game today 


"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted December 17, 2013 - 09:29 PM

Only one post after a pretty good game with good defenders on him...on second night of a back to back



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Posted December 17, 2013 - 09:33 PM

^ To be fair & honest, this section doesn't get much activity to begin with. Guarantee you with 100% certainty any topic regarding Kobe & the subject matter of his play in Lakers Talk would get a ton more hits, views, & posts. It's a shame this section doesn't get more hits in the way it was originally intended. Seems it just gets kinda buried...


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Posted December 19, 2013 - 01:42 AM

Kobe looking more aggressive. That should come in handy when we get a point guard back. 



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Posted January 03, 2014 - 02:12 PM

 

 

 



Nice and easy Kobe.  

The good news is that this means he's going to be able to work on strengthening his legs for the next 4 weeks and ultimately when he returns he'll be better off than last time.  Lakers are going to keep him out 2 weeks longer than it'd take.  

 

Kobe could have likely returned in 4 weeks, but the Lakers are  keeping him out for 6.   Him being out on the court this early is a good sign.  But it's a better sign that he can resume some basketball activities somewhat and strengthening.  This entire month of rehab that both he and Nash are going through is going to help in the long run. 

Playoffs or not, I want Kobe to be able to play this year and finish it healthy and not walk into next season a 'mystery' to himself and to fans.  

I want Kobe and us to find out what he has and what he can still do.  Scoring on Tony Allen at will by his 3rd game is a good sign, not having Blake or such to take advantage of him off ball, not a good sign.

So if I'm Kobe and I'm returning, I wait till all point guards are healthy. 

Either way, good job Kobe, take it nice and easy. 


"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted January 03, 2014 - 02:28 PM

Kobe, Nash, Blake, Farmar, and Xavier Henry all slated for a February return around the same time.  


"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted January 03, 2014 - 02:29 PM

Just sit out kobe

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Posted January 03, 2014 - 02:30 PM

Just sit out kobe


He's not going to. 


"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted January 03, 2014 - 02:33 PM

Kobe, Nash, Blake, Farmar, and Xavier Henry all slated for a February return around the same time.  

Nash? Really? I'll be genuinely absolutely shocked if I see him on the court at that time.


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Posted January 03, 2014 - 02:46 PM

Nash? Really? I'll be genuinely absolutely shocked if I see him on the court at that time.


Nash said his plan is to return early February and his time in Vancouver is now spent on strengthening himself and getting/staying healthy. 

But the interesting thing is the longer Nash stays out strengtening his body and training, the less time will be necessary to 'sustain' a high level of play.  Nash has been participating in shootaround and been around the team for this time lately and at practice whenever they are home, when the Lakers go on the road he goes back to Vancouver to rehab more and strength and basketball train basically.  

But he's targeting early February, but wants to be strong enough to protect those nerve roots.

Physically, Nash could have played back in December, but he didn't want to do the play 2 games sit out 2 or only play for a half anymore which he did before and feels now are detrimental to the team if he continued. So he's been training and strengthening this entire time so he can sustain a high level play for however much longer the season is.   He is also open to coming off the bench.  

 

Nash is taking the approach imo that Kobe should have. Instead of coming back the moment the doctor said he could(which was some time ago for Nash) he's holding himself out till he get and strengthen his body all the way back as far as he possibly can of sustainability before coming back on the court so that he doesn't deal with the risk of overcompensation, which is what got Kobe. 


"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted January 03, 2014 - 03:02 PM

Playoffs?
We don't even want to win a game!

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Posted January 03, 2014 - 03:23 PM

Playoffs?
We don't even want to win a game!


You may not, but I don't think the same is said of Kobe or Nash or anyone else on the Lakers honestly. 


I swear I've never seen fans so scared of winning.  

On one hand I hear that our team sucks and is horrible.   On the other they're afraid if healthy or if Kobe returns that we'll be a playoff team and they don't want that of course.  

Never did I think I'd hear "No Kobe don't return!! We don't want to make the playoffs!!"    If that's all it takes maybe some fans have more faith in a healthy version of this team than they act like if the prospect of Kobe returning them scares them so much that they don't confidently think they'll be a lottery team with or without him.  

 

If we really sucked as bad as some people act like we do when healthy then the prospect of Kobe returning wouldn't scare some fans to oblivion.   They'd say "Kobe, treat this like a glorified pre-season and find out what you can do, we're going nowhere even with you."  

Instead its "NO KOBE DON'T RETURN!! And Nash stay injured or retire!! WE DON'T WANT TO WIN!!" 

If we "sucked" so bad wouldn't it not matter?  Or do some fans really deep down feel like this is a playoff team if Kobe returns and guys are healthy?     Otherwise why would they be so afraid that Kobe returning single handedly 'ruins' their plans....  :hmm:


Edited by Majesty, January 03, 2014 - 03:29 PM.

"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted January 03, 2014 - 03:30 PM

I'd rather Kobe sit out not because he'll will us into the playoffs but because I want him to use that time to continue to rehab. Perhaps lose some weight since he talked about that after his first game. Then during the Summer commit to his insane workouts that gets him ready for the toll of the season. 

 

I wouldn't want him to risk another injury coming back. If we have any intentions of winning a championship within the next two years (odds are against us), then we'll need an elite Kobe alongside more talent.

 

As of Nash, if he feels ready to play, then go for it. I want him to at least end this season on a good note. Problem is, he's risking his future health.







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