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#581 Majesty

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 08:07 PM

Teams generally play better at home than on the road. Thats a fact. The difference in home and away numbers for the Big 3's supporting cast is staggering. Remains consisent with the theme all year long [b]we just dont have enough firepower{/b}


And yet we have enough firepower at home and the supporting cast does well. So that can't be correct. We have enough firepower to be 17-2 at home. When people don't step up on the road it IS a lack of effort and concentration and not a lack of talent, so the guy WAS right with what he said.

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 08:09 PM

And yet we have enough firepower at home and the supporting cast does well. So that can't be correct. We have enough firepower to be 17-2 at home. When people don't step up on the road it IS a lack of effort and concentration and not a lack of talent, so the guy WAS right with what he said.


What part of home/road differntial you dont get? The team is filled with players who barely started most of their careers, they're not gonna be reliable on the road and they're older and slower now. Its diferent at home when conditions are in your favor

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 08:16 PM

What part of home/road differntial you dont get? The team is filled with players who barely started most of their careers, they're not gonna be reliable on the road and they're older and slower now. Its diferent at home when conditions are in your favor


So you're saying they have the talent when they are at home but they lose it when on the road, so it's an on and off switch and consistency has nothing to do with it? :laughing:

I get what you're saying but it sounds like a consistency and effort issue to me rather than a talent one. To say teams play harder at home in one breath and then in the other say that it's not an effort issue to another poster is pretty funny. You can't have it both ways :)

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 08:17 PM

We lost? The hell
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Posted March 06, 2012 - 08:18 PM

What part of home/road differntial you dont get? The team is filled with players who barely started most of their careers, they're not gonna be reliable on the road and they're older and slower now. Its diferent at home when conditions are in your favor


Barnes (177 games ), Blake ( 299 ) and Murphy (480) all started for most of their careers before joining the Lakers. Exactly how many ex-starters do you feel the Lakers should have on their bench? Does any team in the League have more? McRambis started 51 games last year and he's racking up DNP-CDs.

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 08:22 PM

Barnes (177 games ), Blake ( 299 ) and Murphy (480) all started for most of their careers before joining the Lakers. Exactly how many ex-starters do you feel the Lakers should have on their bench? Does any team in the League have more? McRambis started 51 games last year and he's racking up DNP-CDs.


OUt of 532 games Barnes has started 177, Blake has started 299 out of 602, Murphy was a legit starter years ago and has played 1 playoff game to be exact since he came into the league in 2001. These guys aren't younger, they're older, they have mileage in their bodies. This is an unfit group

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 08:24 PM

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 08:34 PM

OUt of 532 games Barnes has started 177, Blake has started 299 out of 602, Murphy was a legit starter years ago and has played 1 playoff game to be exact since he came into the league in 2001. These guys aren't younger, they're older, they have mileage in their bodies. This is an unfit group


You are seriously grasping at straws, my friend. How is it Murphy's fault that he played for terrible teams that never made the playoffs? Troy averaged a double-double twice since the Lakers acquired Pau, which isn't that many "years ago". Averaging 14/10 is more than just a 'legit starter'.

You claimed these guys haven't been starters, but they have about 1,000 NBA starts among them. Yes, they are older... that's why they are with the Lakers, to come off the bench and maybe win a ring, instead of going to say, Charlotte, and playing big minutes. Murphy was a double-double machine for years, and is still younger than Kobe ( all these guys are, in fact ), and on a cheap contract. If you think there's a better player available for that role, you are kidding yourself.

The problem is that the whole team takes entire quarters off, mainly during road games. They were basically AWOL during the even-numbered quarters tonight. I hope that they are right, and they can in fact turn it on whenever they need to, because they aren't going to have home-court for more than maybe one round.

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 08:38 PM

Ive always said as currently constructed this team isn't gonna win the title so if you're expectations the whole time were that this current roster was gonna be a championship thats your fault, not mine. The truth is they're underperforming to some extent but its mainly because they lack the talent to compete at a high level

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 08:58 PM

Ive always said as currently constructed this team isn't gonna win the title so if you're expectations the whole time were that this current roster was gonna be a championship thats your fault, not mine. The truth is they're underperforming to some extent but its mainly because they lack the talent to compete at a high level


I don't expect them to win a title this year, but you cannot argue that this team is talent-deficient with a straight face. They had two All-Star starters this season. They have two other past All-Stars. No one in basketball has a better front-court. You can still argue that they have the best single player in the game, and at-worst, one of the top several. Virtually everyone who sets foot on the court in a Laker uniform has been an NBA starter for several seasons ( Goudelock being the only real exception ).

The problems are effort and organization. They play lazy, disorganized and sloppy basketball far too often. And even when they do play hard, I think they are too predictable to beat a good defensive team in a series ( same problem that Cleveland used to have ).

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 09:15 PM

I'm really sad that I missed this game.. and even more sad that we lost. God dang how I wanted to see the black mask and the game tying shot...

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 10:35 PM

Horrible officiating. Bad shots by Kobe besides the clutch shot. He got hit on the hand on that one too. Also shoulda had 3 free throws at the end. Moving screens all game

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 10:47 PM

Could be worse we could have lost the bobcats by 16.. Haha do they really want to gamble with dwight when that happens

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Posted March 06, 2012 - 11:09 PM

Problem is were Not the magic even if they kept dwight and he wanted to be a magic they would still be a 2nd round exit at best, were not on that same boat we could go further but not if we play like this
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Posted March 07, 2012 - 04:49 AM

This is exactly the kind of game that we really need to focus!!

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Posted March 07, 2012 - 05:00 AM

The reality is when the Lakers go up by 12 points or more players who don't usually take certain shots feel like it's their turn to get theirs. The next thing you know, the score is tied. We don't know how to stay the course a bury a team when we have them down. Kobe did have a bad night. I really wish he would have taken the ball to the hoop once he knew his jumper was off. Although the Lakers we up in the first quarter they looked flat. The only reason we had that lead is because Detroit was playing extra crappy. Once they thought they had a chance, their talent took over

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Posted March 07, 2012 - 06:19 AM

The reality is when the Lakers go up by 12 points or more players who don't usually take certain shots feel like it's their turn to get theirs. The next thing you know, the score is tied. We don't know how to stay the course a bury a team when we have them down. Kobe did have a bad night. I really wish he would have taken the ball to the hoop once he knew his jumper was off. Although the Lakers we up in the first quarter they looked flat. The only reason we had that lead is because Detroit was playing extra crappy. Once they thought they had a chance, their talent took over


Yeah but hopefully it re-ignites the fire. Let's face it, they were riding high after beating Miami and took Detroit for granted. Mike Brown says he prefers close games because he notices the teams tendency to take the foot off the gas and expect teams to roll over and lose for them. Glad he's trying to break them of it. Losses like this hammer home that point.

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Posted March 07, 2012 - 06:46 AM

Pathetic, unacceptable loss. These games cannot be dropped like this.

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Posted March 07, 2012 - 07:06 AM

The reality is when the Lakers go up by 12 points or more players who don't usually take certain shots feel like it's their turn to get theirs. The next thing you know, the score is tied. We don't know how to stay the course a bury a team when we have them down. Kobe did have a bad night. I really wish he would have taken the ball to the hoop once he knew his jumper was off. Although the Lakers we up in the first quarter they looked flat. The only reason we had that lead is because Detroit was playing extra crappy. Once they thought they had a chance, their talent took over


Actually, in last night's game, it went like this...

The Lakers played a relatively good first quarter, and were leading even with the bench on the floor for most of the second quarter. Kobe took an unusually-long break and didn't return until about 6 minutes remained in the half. The Lakers still led at that point. Kobe came in, and immediately started chucking up and missing an array of bad shots, and basically, the rest of the team just quit. Detroit went on a 21-4 run.

The second half was very similar to the first. The 3rd quarter by the Lakers was strong, and they retook the lead. For the most part, they passed the ball, particularly to and between the seven-footers. When Kobe again started taking and missing bad shots in the fourth, and repeatedly waving away his teammates so he could iso, the whole thing fell apart... again.

Detroit only had one chance to win this game. Detroit could not stop the Laker's frontcourt ( 50 points on 32 shots ), so they had to hope that Kobe did, and he obliged.

It's one thing to make four tough shots in a row and then try a crazy shot, the proverbial "heat-check". It's another entirely to miss repeatedly, and still fire up heat-checks as though you didn't even notice you've been missing. That's demoralizing to the whole team.

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Posted March 07, 2012 - 08:07 AM




Kobe hit 3's cause the lakers thought that they would foul kobe.



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