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#21 5thDroog

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 12:00 AM

do you guys think Kobe is capable of surpassing Karl Malone?

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 12:02 AM

Possible but I doubt it. His slow first few years hurt him a lot. He should end up 3rd for sure. Unless he magically averages like 25 til he's 40.

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 12:06 AM

Possible but I doubt it. His slow first few years hurt him a lot. He should end up 3rd for sure. Unless he magically averages like 25 til he's 40.



the addition of artest and possibly a healthy andrew bynum will hurt kobe stat-wise. i think he's going to average 23.ppg this season. i'm pretty sure he's gonna be on the top 8 all time scoring guy

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 07:01 AM

the addition of artest and possibly a healthy andrew bynum will hurt kobe stat-wise. i think he's going to average 23.ppg this season. i'm pretty sure he's gonna be on the top 8 all time scoring guy

Kob's # will increase not decrease. Book it!

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 07:33 AM

Kobe can easily play another 10 seasons if he chooses to play about 6 of them as an off the bench role player.

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 10:07 AM

I don't think Lebron will catch Kobe in Points. He will behind him after he retires only because his game will go down. Once he can't dunk and drive when he gets old. He won't have the Shooting game like Kobe to catch up to him.

Kobe has to avg 20 points per game in the next 9 season to be number 1.

I think he could possibly do that (Thats only if he wants to) but he prob doesn't care about this record. (He cares about the Championships now).

But i think he can play another 10 seasons.

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 03:59 PM

I don't think Lebron will catch Kobe in Points. He will behind him after he retires only because his game will go down. Once he can't dunk and drive when he gets old. He won't have the Shooting game like Kobe to catch up to him.

Kobe has to avg 20 points per game in the next 9 season to be number 1.

I think he could possibly do that (Thats only if he wants to) but he prob doesn't care about this record. (He cares about the Championships now).

But i think he can play another 10 seasons.



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Posted August 20, 2009 - 04:30 PM

I don't think Lebron will catch Kobe in Points. He will behind him after he retires only because his game will go down. Once he can't dunk and drive when he gets old. He won't have the Shooting game like Kobe to catch up to him.

Kobe has to avg 20 points per game in the next 9 season to be number 1.

I think he could possibly do that (Thats only if he wants to) but he prob doesn't care about this record. (He cares about the Championships now).

But i think he can play another 10 seasons.

Well LeBron is much more athletic talented than Kobe and if i remember LeBron is 6'8, so he'll be dunking probley till he's 40. He's already the youngest player to score 20,000 and he's what, 24? He still has 4-5 years to improve, and thats scary

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 04:34 PM

Well LeBron is much more athletic talented than Kobe and if i remember LeBron is 6'8, so he'll be dunking probley till he's 40. He's already the youngest player to score 20,000 and he's what, 24? He still has 4-5 years to improve, and thats scary

20,000?

His total career season points is only 12,993 and 1,761 on the playoffs

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 04:35 PM

20,000?

His total career season point is only 12,993

haha oops

i meant 10,000

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 04:57 PM

Well LeBron is much more athletic talented than Kobe and if i remember LeBron is 6'8, so he'll be dunking probley till he's 40. He's already the youngest player to score 20,000 and he's what, 24? He still has 4-5 years to improve, and thats scary


LeBron won't be dunking till he's 40. He'll get jumper's knee by his early 30s.

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 05:08 PM

Kobe had 695 points in last years playoffs alone :blink:

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RIDICULOUS!!!!!


17th all time as we speak, I do not doubt he'll reach 7th all time when it's said and done.

Maybe even all time..................... Look out Kareem!!! :dance1:

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 09:35 PM

LeBron won't be dunking till he's 40. He'll get jumper's knee by his early 30s.

michael jordan could still dunk with the wizards, and he was 38

and the same with dominque wilkens and Dr. J

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 11:32 PM

michael jordan could still dunk with the wizards, and he was 38

and the same with dominque wilkens and Dr. J



He doesn't mean that he won't be able to dunk at all. He means that we won't be able to get to the rim at will and dunk on people anymore. And that is the crux of his game. he has no other skills. SO as soon as his athleticism declines, Lebron won't be a superstar anymore.

On a side note, Kobe will not be a bench player. If he plays till he's 40, he would still be our starting shooting guard.

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Posted August 20, 2009 - 11:38 PM

To break Kareem's all-time scoring record:

Kobe is @ 23,820 points right now.
Kareem is @ 38,387 points
Malone is @ 36,928 points.

That leaves 14,567 points to catch Kareem and 13,108 points to catch Malone.

If Kobe averages 25 points per game (as he usually does over his career) during the regular season and (though he got 656 points last playoffs let's cut it down to around 500 to be fairly reasonable.

He would have to play 6 more years averaging the same 25 and getting 500 points per playoffs to finish his career with 39,120 (leaving 733 points wiggle room from that mark to a tie). Catching Malone at #2 is more likely however. Kobe would only have to play 5 more years averaging 25 and the same 500 points per playoffs. Its a tall order either way.

Averaging that many points from 34 to 36 is tough to do, not impossible, but very tough.

So suffice to say its going to be a battle for him to finish #1.

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Posted August 21, 2009 - 01:09 AM

To break Kareem's all-time scoring record:

Kobe is @ 23,820 points right now.
Kareem is @ 38,387 points
Malone is @ 36,928 points.

That leaves 14,567 points to catch Kareem and 13,108 points to catch Malone.

If Kobe averages 25 points per game (as he usually does over his career) during the regular season and (though he got 656 points last playoffs let's cut it down to around 500 to be fairly reasonable.

He would have to play 6 more years averaging the same 25 and getting 500 points per playoffs to finish his career with 39,120 (leaving 733 points wiggle room from that mark to a tie). Catching Malone at #2 is more likely however. Kobe would only have to play 5 more years averaging 25 and the same 500 points per playoffs. Its a tall order either way.

Averaging that many points from 34 to 36 is tough to do, not impossible, but very tough.

So suffice to say its going to be a battle for him to finish #1.



great point fido. i don't think he'll be going over malone and kareem with that. it's just ridiculous, plus the fact that we have a deep team, loaded with players who can score. it would definitely hurt kobe stat-wise. but i don't mind. i don't care if he averages 10ppg as long as he wins 3 or more championships.

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Posted August 22, 2009 - 08:46 PM

He doesn't mean that he won't be able to dunk at all. He means that we won't be able to get to the rim at will and dunk on people anymore. And that is the crux of his game. he has no other skills. SO as soon as his athleticism declines, Lebron won't be a superstar anymore.

On a side note, Kobe will not be a bench player. If he plays till he's 40, he would still be our starting shooting guard.

but ur not thinking of the future...its very oblivious that LBJ is going to develop more of a jump shot like MJ and Kobe, and then how will anyone stop him?!

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Posted August 23, 2009 - 02:37 AM

To break Kareem's all-time scoring record:

Kobe is @ 23,820 points right now.
Kareem is @ 38,387 points
Malone is @ 36,928 points.

That leaves 14,567 points to catch Kareem and 13,108 points to catch Malone.

If Kobe averages 25 points per game (as he usually does over his career) during the regular season and (though he got 656 points last playoffs let's cut it down to around 500 to be fairly reasonable.

He would have to play 6 more years averaging the same 25 and getting 500 points per playoffs to finish his career with 39,120 (leaving 733 points wiggle room from that mark to a tie). Catching Malone at #2 is more likely however. Kobe would only have to play 5 more years averaging 25 and the same 500 points per playoffs. Its a tall order either way.

Averaging that many points from 34 to 36 is tough to do, not impossible, but very tough.

So suffice to say its going to be a battle for him to finish #1.

The points numbers are regular season only. Playoffs don't count. If you were counting that, then Kareem I believe also has the most all time, somewhere over 5,000 playoff points. So that doesn't help Kobe lol.

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Posted August 23, 2009 - 03:03 AM

To break Kareem's all-time scoring record:

Kobe is @ 23,820 points right now.
Kareem is @ 38,387 points
Malone is @ 36,928 points.

That leaves 14,567 points to catch Kareem and 13,108 points to catch Malone.

If Kobe averages 25 points per game (as he usually does over his career) during the regular season and (though he got 656 points last playoffs let's cut it down to around 500 to be fairly reasonable.

He would have to play 6 more years averaging the same 25 and getting 500 points per playoffs to finish his career with 39,120 (leaving 733 points wiggle room from that mark to a tie). Catching Malone at #2 is more likely however. Kobe would only have to play 5 more years averaging 25 and the same 500 points per playoffs. Its a tall order either way.

Averaging that many points from 34 to 36 is tough to do, not impossible, but very tough.

So suffice to say its going to be a battle for him to finish #1.

Kareem's total points scored is 44,149 if the playoffs is included.

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Posted August 23, 2009 - 02:08 PM

but ur not thinking of the future...its very oblivious that LBJ is going to develop more of a jump shot like MJ and Kobe, and then how will anyone stop him?!


No it isn't, he isn't the same kind of player as either of them. He's been in the league for 6 years and hasn't developed very much, still relying upon his athleticism and strength, not skill. 6 years, and he still only has a streaky jumper, nothing more.




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