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#1 West Coast

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Posted September 27, 2011 - 12:00 PM

Thought it would be good to get an official thread so we can put updates and news into one location. Interesting stuff that happened today. The meeting between players and owners did not last very long. There's an obvious reason for that (see below) but regardless I still find it intriguing there would be a meeting that lasts less than two hours.

Chris Mannix
Derek Fisher just emerged from a VERY quick bargaining session. Says two sides will meet tomorrow.


Chris Mannix
Fisher says no new proposals were made. Plans to go back to union office, strategize some more.


Ken Berger
#NBA labor meetings have broken for day after less than 3 hours. Fisher said both sides need to meet privately. Will reconvene tomorrow.


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Fisher says no new formal proposals presented, but clearly there is something to discuss when each side retreats to own turf.


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One factor in short meeting: union economist Kevin Murphy not present. Players wouldn't get too deeply into future projections w/o him.



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Posted September 27, 2011 - 03:29 PM

Sounds like good news I guess.
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Posted September 27, 2011 - 06:29 PM

http://sports.yahoo...._meeting_092711

NEW YORK – For the first time in two years of labor talks, NBA owners made a modest push from their rigid stance on implementing a hard salary cap, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The owners proposed at Tuesday’s negotiating session an idea similar to the current system that allows teams to pay a luxury tax for going over the cap. Only, now there would be ultra-punitive measures against higher-spending teams. The current system has teams pay a dollar-for-dollar tax for exceeding the cap.


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Posted September 28, 2011 - 09:42 AM

https://twitter.com/#!/KBergCBS/status/119104416665178112

Derek Fisher: Two sides agreed to meet again Friday, with full committees coming to NY.


https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/119104698367213568

Labor meeting over, and Derek Fisher says sides will meet again Friday with as many as 15 owners joining players in negotiating room.


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Posted September 28, 2011 - 09:46 AM

https://twitter.com/#!/sam_amick/status/119105361507651584

Source says NBA stars - including Kobe Bryant, LeBron James and Kevin Durant - are expected in NYC on Friday for players meeting.


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Posted September 28, 2011 - 09:49 AM

Hopefully these are good signs since these heavy weight players are finally coming in.

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Posted September 28, 2011 - 09:54 AM

UGH

https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/119107317982707712

While the increased communication is good, the NBA and union are still far apart on terms to make a deal.


https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/119107939574366208

The union does want to bring in several high-profile players for Friday's meeting, especially with such a big ownership turnout planned.


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Posted September 28, 2011 - 10:03 AM

Well so much for getting my hopes up

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Posted September 28, 2011 - 10:05 AM

https://twitter.com/#!/daldridgetnt/status/119110100622385152

Meeting over. Fisher confirms star players have been invited 2 Fri meeting. Full committees on both sides coming; approximate 15 owners.


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Posted September 28, 2011 - 10:27 AM

Deputy commissioner

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https://twitter.com/#!/KBergCBS/status/119115650131173376

Silver: "It would be hard to characterize us as having made progress today."


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Posted September 28, 2011 - 10:29 AM

https://twitter.com/#!/KBergCBS/status/119115861473759232

Stern: "We're not near a deal."


https://twitter.com/#!/KBergCBS/status/119116038695694337

Stern: "There are enormous consequences at play here" this weekend. "There will be a lot at risk in the absence of progress."


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Posted September 28, 2011 - 03:55 PM

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It doesn’t matter if the game is checkers, chess, Battleship or collective bargaining negotiations – there often comes a time when you look down at the board and realize you’re going to lose. The NBA players are at that stage now, with scant days separating them from losing games due to the lockout.

One of the sticking points is that the owners want the players to roll back their salaries. Well if games are missed and salaries are reduced on a pro-rated basis what does that effectively constitute? A rollback.

Players will be missing out on money one way or another. So now the question becomes the same one Tupac once asked: how do you want it?


If they start the season on time they regain the momentum they established from all the drama of last season. No hard feelings, no questions asked. Fans won’t mind shortened training camps or missed preseason games as long as the real deal begins as scheduled and there is full, immediate value for those season ticket renewals. The compacted free agent market will actually generate higher-than-normal NBA interest in October, which normally belongs to the pro and college football and the baseball playoffs.

As far back 2009, when money was flying around in overpriced contracts for the likes of Hedo Turkoglu and Ben Gordon, I was told the owners knew they’d never have to pay the full value of those contracts because of lost games in 2011-12. They knew they’d be getting a rebate. Now it’s time for them to collect. The question is how greedy are they going to get. Will they settle for a market correction, or will they put the squeeze on for profits assured by labor without the owners having to do the dirty work themselves through a better revenue sharing system.

One NBA person told me a reduction from the current 57 percent players’ share of income to 50 percent would work out to a savings of $10 million per team. Hmm, 30 teams times $10 million = $300 million. That’s the amount the NBA says it lost last season, with no other changes to the system. What once was lost, now is found. The owners are making this more complicated and ruthless than it needs to be. Because they know the players are out of alternatives.


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Posted September 28, 2011 - 04:20 PM

Personally, I'm not why some got their hopes up. We knew they were far apart on a deal and it's just unrealistic to think that a deal would get done or close to done from one day to the next.

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Posted September 29, 2011 - 10:57 AM

Personally, I'm not why some got their hopes up. We knew they were far apart on a deal and it's just unrealistic to think that a deal would get done or close to done from one day to the next.


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Posted September 30, 2011 - 01:30 PM

Here we go...meeting just ended

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Posted September 30, 2011 - 01:32 PM

Nevermind it was a bathroom break lol

https://twitter.com/#!/HowardBeckNYT/status/119886843369103360

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Posted September 30, 2011 - 02:19 PM

https://twitter.com/#!/KBergCBS/status/119898695746600960

Committee member Theo Ratliff leaves hotel. "Still going," he said. "Be here tomorrow."


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Posted September 30, 2011 - 02:21 PM

https://twitter.com/#!/alanhahn/status/119899369527971840

As we reach fourth hour, Theo Ratliff exits and says talks are "still going on" and suggests things are expected to continue into tomorrow.


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Posted September 30, 2011 - 03:01 PM

After 5 hours...

https://twitter.com/#!/KBergCBS/status/119908865478377472

Fisher: "We did not come out of here with a deal today, but we will be back here at 10 a.m."


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Posted September 30, 2011 - 03:02 PM

https://twitter.com/#!/KBergCBS/status/119909405708922880

Fisher on whether deal can get done this weekend: "I can't answer that."


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