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#1 Lakers_55

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Posted May 03, 2011 - 05:49 PM

Yes, we have lost HCA in both series so far this season. We came back against New Orleans, now we must do it against Dallas. We have only remeained undefeated at home in two of our eleven titles won in Los Angeles, so to me, and other long tme Lakers fans, this is nothing new.

I believe it is important for you folks to know this. Yeah, nothing comes easy for the Lakers, they have had to work for all the titles won. Relax and have faith in our team.

1972:
Lost game 1 in WCF vs. Bucks. Won series in 6.
Lost game 1 of Finals vs. Knicks: Won series in 5.

1980
Lost game 2 of WCF vs. Sonics. Won series in 5.
Lost game 2 of Finals vs. Sixers. Won series in 6.

1982
Undefeated at home.

1985
Lost game 2 vs. Nuggets. Won series in 5
Stole HCA in finals vs, Celtics in game 2. Lost it back in game 4. Won series in 6.

1987
Undefeated at home

1988
Lost game 2 of WCSF vs. Jazz. Won series in 7.
Lost game 1 of Finals vs. Pistons. Won series in 7.

2000
Lost games 2 and 5 vs. Blazers. Won series in 7.

2001
Lost game 1 of Finals vs. Sixers. Won series in 5.

2002
Lost game 2 of WCSF vs. Spurs. won series in 5.
Stole HCA in game 1 vs. Kings. Lost it back in game 3. Won series in 7.

2009
Lost game 1 of WCSF v. Rockets. won series in 7.
Lost game 2 of WCF vs. Nuggets. Won series in 6.

2010
Lost game 2 of finals vs. Celtics. Won series in 7.

2011
Lost game 1 first round vs. Hornets. Won series in 6.
Lost game 1 of WCSF vs. Dallas....to be determined.

Seasons the Celtics lost ECF when Lakers won the championship (7): 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1988, 2002
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Posted May 03, 2011 - 06:21 PM

We've never lost the first 2 games at home (Games 1-2 of series) under Phil Jackson.

When we've split them, we've won Game 3, 7 of 8 times. The only time we lost game 3 was 2004 Finals. Also the only series we lost under Phil Jackson with HCA.

I wasn't afraid of splitting with Dallas. What I was concerned with (and still am) is not establishing home court dominance, and having it bite us in Rounds 3 & 4. At this point, it looks like we absolutely cannot lose a home game in the Finals, which is pretty impossible when you have 3 straight home games.

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Posted May 03, 2011 - 06:29 PM

Need to win the next two games to re-establish ourselves in this series.

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Posted May 03, 2011 - 06:30 PM

we got this [expletive]

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Posted May 03, 2011 - 06:58 PM

Not worried at all. Unless we lose the next game, then I'm going to explode as hell.

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Posted May 03, 2011 - 08:27 PM

Homecourt doesn't seem to affect the Lakers. In fact, they seem less tense when they play away games. Everything seems smoother on the road. But still, win game 2. FOR SURE. Take notes on what the Thunder are doing.

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Posted May 03, 2011 - 08:31 PM

Homecourt doesn't seem to affect the Lakers. In fact, they seem less tense when they play away games. Everything seems smoother on the road. But still, win game 2. FOR SURE. Take notes on what the Thunder are doing.


They definitely seem to make some of their best comebacks on the road. They look so calm, like a group of assassins plotting to put a knife through the heart of each and every one of the 20,000 or so in attendance.

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Posted May 03, 2011 - 09:14 PM

Looking at my list above, there were plenty of series we won where we were written off. I plan to make a thread about our duels with the Bucks in 1971-72 and we were all but written off when it was 2-2. Look at some of the other series. Up 3-2 against Boston but going into the garden where no road team had ever won a title. Down 3-2 against the Pistons in 1988. 4th quarter game 7, 2000 vs. Portland, down 75-60. Game 4 vs. Kings, 2002, down 40-20 after 1. Game 7 vs. Kings, needed OT. There were others. We have to win game 2 and split 3 and 4 in Dallas. I believe we can do both.

Seasons the Celtics lost ECF when Lakers won the championship (7): 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1988, 2002
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Posted May 03, 2011 - 10:07 PM

The last time the Lakers lost two consecutive home games in the same play-off series was 1995, when we lost Games 4 & 6 against San Antonio, in the Forum. (We won Game 5 in OT on a Nick Van Exel answered prayer).

The last time the Lakers lost two consecutive homes that were back2back games in the series, was 1993, when we lost Games 3 & 4 to Phoenix in the 1st round, after winning games 1 & 2 on the road.

Naturally, we lost both of these series.

The Mavericks are trying to make a lot of history tomorrow, and in the rest of the series. A) Become the first team to win the first games against LA on the road, against Phil Jackson; and B) win a play-off series in the 2-2-1-1-1 format against LA, when the Lakers have HCA.


*Edit* See corrections below. :yes:

Edited by UKUGA, May 04, 2011 - 05:33 AM.

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Posted May 03, 2011 - 11:16 PM

The last time the Lakers lost two consecutive home games in the same play-off series was 1995, when we lost Games 4 & 6 against San Antonio, in the Forum. (We won Game 5 in OT on a Nick Van Exel answered prayer).

The last time the Lakers lost two consecutive homes that were back2back games in the series, was 1993, when we lost Games 3 & 4 to Phoenix in the 1st round, after winning games 1 & 2 on the road.

Naturally, we lost both of these series.

The Mavericks are trying to make a lot of history tomorrow, and in the rest of the series. A) Become the first team to win the first games against LA on the road, against Phil Jackson; and B) win a play-off series in the 2-2-1-1-1 format against LA, when the Lakers have HCA.

Your post is informative but missing some details:

In 1969 Lakers lost first two games at home to the Warriors and won the series. Phil Jackson was playing for the Knicks then. Finals 1969, we lost game 7 in a 2-2-1-1-1 format to Boston, home team won every game except the last. 1998 and 1999 we lost both home games, Jazz and Spurs. We also lost two consecutive home games to Portland in 2000. Same with Houston 1986, games 2 and 5 (2-2-1-1-1 format) Philadelphia, 1983, and Detroit, 1989. also lost 3 in a row to the Bulls in 1991. 1990 we lost to Phoenix in games 2 and 5, 2-2-1-1-1 format.

Edited by Lakers_55, May 03, 2011 - 11:16 PM.

Seasons the Celtics lost ECF when Lakers won the championship (7): 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1988, 2002
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Posted May 04, 2011 - 02:28 AM

Didn't the Lakers finish with one of the best away records in the league this year?

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Posted May 04, 2011 - 05:33 AM

Your post is informative but missing some details:

In 1969 Lakers lost first two games at home to the Warriors and won the series. Phil Jackson was playing for the Knicks then. Finals 1969, we lost game 7 in a 2-2-1-1-1 format to Boston, home team won every game except the last. 1998 and 1999 we lost both home games, Jazz and Spurs. We also lost two consecutive home games to Portland in 2000. Same with Houston 1986, games 2 and 5 (2-2-1-1-1 format) Philadelphia, 1983, and Detroit, 1989. also lost 3 in a row to the Bulls in 1991. 1990 we lost to Phoenix in games 2 and 5, 2-2-1-1-1 format.



That's what I get for doing this off the top of my head at 1:00 AM. I haven't slept well since we lost to Dallas Monday night.

My attempt was just to go back to the last time, which is why I didn't take it back to pre-1993.

Of course, I never should have gone that far. It's amazing thinking back to losing back2back home games to Portland in 2000. We got killed in Game 2, and then took games 3 & 4. Game 3, I was moving to Texas, and watched the game in a hotel in Arkadelphia, AR.

I don't know why I jumped back to 1995 and skipped 1998 & 1999.

We were also thisclose to losing back2back to Sacramento in 2002. But Robery Horry saved the day.


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Posted May 04, 2011 - 10:08 PM

Did I see this right??

Lakers now one of only 19 teams to lose games 1-2 at home. Wild.

When you hear that only 3 teams have come back from this situation, actually looking at the number of times a team went down, helps the perspective, and gives a slight bit of a hope.

In theory, the team with HCA is the "better' team, even after losing games 1-2.

Edited by UKUGA, May 04, 2011 - 10:10 PM.

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Posted May 05, 2011 - 12:02 PM

In 2005, the #4 seed Dallas Mavericks went down 0-2 against the #5 seed Houston Rockets.

In Game 1, the Rockets won 98-86 (12 points)
In Game 2, the Rockets won 113-111 (2 points)

In 2011, the #2 seed Los Angeles Lakers went down 0-2 against the #3 seed Dallas Mavericks.

In Game 1, the Mavericks won 96-94 (2 points)
In Game 2, the Mavericks won 93-81 (12 points)

The 2005 Mavericks losing a winnable game 2. The 2011 Lakers losing a winnable game 1. The Mavericks were 7 wins better than the Rockets that season. The Mavericks lost one more game than they should have in that series. The Mavericks rallied to win the next three games as follows:

Game 3 Mavericks won 106-102
Game 4 Mavericks won 97-93
Game 5 Mavericks won 103-100

Game 6 Rockets won 101-83
Game 7 Mavericks won 116-76

If this series will be what Laker fans cling on to for hope, we have to understand it will be hell to duplicate. If you're a believer in everything comes full circle, then the Mavs have to return the favor for us....right?

The only other teams to come back from 0-2 with home court are the 1969 Lakers and the 1994 Rockets.




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