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#1 Real Deal

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Posted April 16, 2011 - 12:11 AM



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Did you get to see it live? Where were you? How does it stack up among the greatest performances in NBA history?

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Posted April 16, 2011 - 06:05 AM

Kobe drained 3s over Bosh all game long. Now Bosh thinks he's good cause he's on the heat :laughing:

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Posted April 16, 2011 - 06:42 PM

i actually think john hollinger broke it down quite nicely

yes, you read that right, john hollinger...

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&id=2303136

It seems at first glance that Wilt Chamberlain's 100-point night in 1962 is far superior to Kobe Bryant's 81-point game Sunday. After all, Bryant still needed 19 more points -- roughly Pau Gasol's average -- just to catch the Dipper.

But if you stack the two games side by side, you'll come to the startling realization that Bryant's performance was actually far superior. Breaking the two games down by the numbers, it quickly becomes apparent what a dominant night Kobe had. Consider the facts:



Wilt scored 100 of his team's 169 points in the 1962 game.
Bryant was more efficient. Bryant needed 46 shot attempts and 20 free throws to get 81 points. Chamberlain needed 63 field-goal attempts and 32 free-throw tries to get his 100. Bryant's true shooting percentage for the night was 73.9 percent; Chamberlain's was only 63.9 percent.

Bryant's performance was more real. In Chamberlain's game, the Warriors intentionally fouled the Knicks in the final minute of play to get the ball back for another Chamberlain try at the century mark. Only on his third try did he get to 100. At the time, his team was comfortably ahead, as it was for the entire second half, and it won 169-147. Bryant, on the other hand, got almost all his points when they were desperately needed, as his team trailed by 18 early in the third quarter.

Bryant needed fewer minutes. If you want to really be amazed, consider the fact that Kobe sat out for six minutes in the second quarter. So Bryant scored his 81 points in only 42 minutes, while Wilt played the full 48 in his 100-point effort. Had he played for an additional six minutes and scored at the same rate (hardly an unreasonable assumption, given how much gas he appeared to have at the end), Kobe would have finished with 93 points. Yes, 93.

The game was different. Of all the differences between Bryant's game and Chamberlain's, this one is perhaps the biggest. Chamberlain's game ended up 169-147, Bryant's 122-104. Obviously, there was a huge difference in the speed of play, and that meant Chamberlain had far more opportunities to score than Bryant did.

Chamberlain's game featured 233 field-goal attempts versus 164 for Bryant's, and 93 free-throw attempts to 60 for Bryant's. We have no data on turnovers and offensive rebounds for Chamberlain's game, but based on the numbers I just mentioned, we can estimate there were 46 percent more possessions in the Chamberlain game than in the Kobe game.

If that's the case, we need to inflate Kobe's numbers by 46 percent to get an accurate idea of what it equates to in Chamberlain's era. The answer? An unbelievable 118 points. And if we add in six extra minutes for Bryant, we end up with the mind-boggling total of 135. By one player. In one game.

Another way to look at it is by deflating Chamberlain's numbers by a similar amount. If we change his currency into "2006 points," so to speak, the Stilt ends up with 68 points -- still an awesome performance, but clearly not on a level with Kobe's 81-point outburst. And once you adjust for the 48 minutes Chamberlain played vs. Kobe's 42, you end up with 60 points for Wilt -- or just a bit more than Kobe rang up in the second half.

So when our Marc Stein says this is the most amazing performance ever, believe it. Once you adjust for the differences in pace between the two eras and the fact that Bryant sat out for six minutes, even Chamberlain's monumental 100-point game pales by comparison. For basketball historians, Bryant's effort is now the scoring effort against which all others should be measured


as for where i was, at work...manager by this time, so unforuntaely had to be responsible, and would have to watch the games when i got home on DVR, sometimes, i'd check the score, and when i did in this game for the first time, i remember seeing 70something on ESPN.com and thinking that can't be right, so checked NBA.com, and it said the same thing...so i started telling people, kobe has 70whatever, and there's all this time left and most people didn't believe me...saw the final, couldn't wait to get home and watch that one

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Posted April 19, 2011 - 06:51 PM

Hmm, can anyone tell me why Joel wasn't commenting the game and another dude replaced him?

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Posted April 19, 2011 - 07:07 PM

I wasn't able to watch the game (didn't have NBATV at the time) but I remember ESPN doing an interrupt or something and they were saying "...Bryant now has 70 pts" or something of that nature. After I saw that, I was like wtf???

Edited by Windu, April 19, 2011 - 07:07 PM.

Pau Gasol is GONE


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Posted April 19, 2011 - 08:02 PM

I was 10 years old at the time, just watching the game at home like usual. That has to be the craziest thing in sports history.

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Posted May 19, 2011 - 06:42 PM

I have it recorded on my DVR to this day.
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Posted May 19, 2011 - 07:05 PM

I have it recorded on my DVR to this day.

Yeah, I wish I had NBALP when it happened. I had to listen to it...a local radio station here in Kansas actually had the game on.

I have it on two DVD's now, but the second half freezes up a little in a couple of spots.

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Posted May 19, 2011 - 07:12 PM

Yeah, I wish I had NBALP when it happened. I had to listen to it...a local radio station here in Kansas actually had the game on.

I have it on two DVD's now, but the second half freezes up a little in a couple of spots.

Actually, i recorded it when it came on one of "NBA's greatest games" on ESPNClassic like a year ago :)
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Posted May 19, 2011 - 09:14 PM

I am not the biggest Kobe fan but that game is one of the greatest individual performance in nba history.

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Posted May 19, 2011 - 10:22 PM

full game download link if anyone wants to see it: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YW5Q52CE

damn that team sucked


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Posted May 19, 2011 - 10:40 PM

full game download link if anyone wants to see it: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YW5Q52CE

damn that team sucked

Is the quality pretty good?

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Posted May 20, 2011 - 05:12 PM

2nd half points

kobe - 55
raptors - 41

Edited by Colby Brian, May 20, 2011 - 05:12 PM.


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Posted May 20, 2011 - 05:22 PM

I still remember that game perfectly to this day

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Posted May 20, 2011 - 05:51 PM

I didnt see it. No nba league pass at the time.
Plus we were playing the raptors. Not really a headliner.

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Posted May 20, 2011 - 09:29 PM

have it on my DVR, and just DLed the link that was posted...not great quality, but watchable for those that were wondering

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Posted May 20, 2011 - 11:01 PM

Is the quality pretty good?

ehh the quality isnt horrible, but its not HD if thats what your asking.. if you dont want to DL, you can stream it via this link aswell http://www.megavideo.com/?d=YW5Q52CE


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Posted May 21, 2011 - 06:53 AM

I saw it, I remember that whole season Kobe was playing rediculous but that game...that game felt unreal watching it live on tv.

I cant imagine what the folks at staples felt like.

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Posted May 21, 2011 - 07:22 AM

wish I had seen this

Pau Gasol is GONE


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Posted May 21, 2011 - 03:36 PM

wish I had seen this


Me too, at Staples.




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