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3-D Television Expected To Come To Homes in 2010


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Posted September 18, 2009 - 09:26 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/09/18/3D.home.television/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail

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3-D is coming to home television sets next year, experts say
Panasonic and Sony recently held demonstrations of the TVs
Viewers must wear special glasses to see 3-D picture
3-D TV isn't expected to be significantly more expensive than HDTV


(CNN) -- Three-dimensional images are expected jump out of movie theaters and into living rooms by next year.

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Panasonic demonstrates 3-D television at a recent technology expo in Atlanta, Georgia.

Sony and Panasonic say they will release home 3-D television systems in 2010; Mitsubishi and JVC are reported to be working on similar products.

"TV finally becomes real" in three dimensions, said Robert Perry, an executive vice president at Panasonic. "You're in it. It's the next frontier."


Perry compared the 3-D transition to the switch from black-and-white to color television and the shift from standard- to high-definition images.

ESPN is test-recording some sporting events in 3-D, using cameras with two sets of lenses, which would make football players appear to jump out of home television screens during live 3-D broadcasts.

And, although television makers haven't released specifics, the price of 3-D TV -- which requires a new television, broadcasting content and 3-D glasses -- is not expected to be substantially higher than some high-definition televisions on the market now.

Still, there are skeptics who say that 3-D is not ready for prime-time home viewing.

There are concerns that 3-D broadcasts, which require twice the data, will gobble up an unworkable amount of television bandwidth. And some worry that 3-D glasses and graphics won't make a smooth transition to American living rooms.

Shane Sturgeon, publisher of HDTV Magazine, said some of the glasses give him a headache and will block some people from buying the new technology.

"From what I've seen from most of the manufacturers, it's just not there yet," he said of 3-D TV technology. "I think right now, the technology -- whether you're talking about the refresh rate or the strobing or the glasses -- there are too many things right now that get in the way of enjoyment of the film for it to kick off."

All 3-D technology relies on the idea that if separate images are presented to the left and right eyes, the human brain will combine them and create the illusion of a third dimension.

TV makers go about this in different ways, though.

Panasonic and Sony, which demonstrated their products for CNN at a recent tech expo in Atlanta, Georgia, use "active glasses" and TVs with high refresh rates to achieve the effect.

Two images, one for the right eye and one for the left eye, alternate quickly on the TV. Shutters on the 3-D glasses swap the viewer's vision from right eye to left eye at the same rate: 120 hertz, or 240 hertz for the images together. The TV connects with the glasses through a sensor that's placed between the lenses on the glasses.

"It's like a little Venetian blind: open, close, open, close, open, close," John Wyckoff, a Sony content manager, said of the glasses.

The effect moves so quickly that it tricks the brain into merging the images and creates the perspective needed to see images in 3-D, he said.

Glance away from the TV, though, and you can see the lenses opening and closing, which irritates some people.

Those who saw the technology at the recent Custom Electronic Design and Installation Association Expo seemed wowed by Panasonic's 3-D footage of Olympic events and skiers who appeared to send snow flying into the laps of the audience.

David Lesch fidgeted with his 3-D glasses during Panasonic's demo but said the 3-D picture on the company's 103-inch plasma screen was excellent.

However, it may not be effective for all TV programming, he said.

"I cannot imagine that I will watch CNN in 3-D," said Lesch, sales director at AV Media, which sells electronics. "But for sports, yes. To watch soccer and ice hockey -- anything -- that would be great."
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Posted September 19, 2009 - 01:12 AM

I don't know if this will catch on. New 3D is awesome technology, but the tv's will be for rich only as usual and I'm already kinda pissed having spent $1,000 for a top of the line tv just a few years ago that they just keep improving by the day. I can't afford a 3D tv but I don't want to miss out on that stuff, it'd be great if they could somehow make the tv's out now work with the 3D too.
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Posted September 19, 2009 - 07:37 AM

There's been 3D-ready HDTVs in the market for years now. No one's just put the tech to use.

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Posted September 19, 2009 - 05:03 PM

Don't be upset about technology on TV's changing Weezy.

I can tell you something, working with this stuff all the time. The moment its released to the public, its out-dated.

Just get what you like and enjoy it. There's no reason to feel the need to keep up with the latest thing. often times the latest is not the greatest.

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Posted September 20, 2009 - 12:12 AM

Don't be upset about technology on TV's changing Weezy.

I can tell you something, working with this stuff all the time. The moment its released to the public, its out-dated.

Just get what you like and enjoy it. There's no reason to feel the need to keep up with the latest thing. often times the latest is not the greatest.


Yeah, I've come to realize that, I don't even bother with thinking about the latest and greatest anymore when it comes to gadgets, I can't keep up. I love my TV and even though I know there are bigger and better TV's out there I can't imagine anything looking better than the one I have so I'm good. It's just the 3D thing sounds really cool, I like what they've done with new 3D and I'd like to have it home but I'm not gonna buy a new TV. Plus I read that Sony is gonna start making some PS3 games have 3D capabilities in the future and PS3 games in 3D sounds really cool. So that's what annoys me a little, that instead of just making the technology work with existing TV's through the PS3 or BR players they're trying to make you buy a new TV. I mean how many people are gonna buy 3D TV's, why make the technology for those few people, how's it going to catch on that way?
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Posted September 21, 2009 - 04:23 PM

Yeah, I've come to realize that, I don't even bother with thinking about the latest and greatest anymore when it comes to gadgets, I can't keep up. I love my TV and even though I know there are bigger and better TV's out there I can't imagine anything looking better than the one I have so I'm good. It's just the 3D thing sounds really cool, I like what they've done with new 3D and I'd like to have it home but I'm not gonna buy a new TV. Plus I read that Sony is gonna start making some PS3 games have 3D capabilities in the future and PS3 games in 3D sounds really cool. So that's what annoys me a little, that instead of just making the technology work with existing TV's through the PS3 or BR players they're trying to make you buy a new TV. I mean how many people are gonna buy 3D TV's, why make the technology for those few people, how's it going to catch on that way?

Well it's not as simple as just making it work with existing TVs. The TVs will need to handle all the data, and according to that article, 3D will need double the bandwidth compared to regular TV. Most TVs can't handle all that.

3D is just one of the next steps in home entertainment. Soon there will be HDMI 1.4, and resolution will be 4 times 1080p.

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Posted September 21, 2009 - 04:28 PM

Ugh, that hurts my head, I don't know why they're so intent on improving television resolution by the day, it looks fantastic as it is now give us some time to breathe.
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Posted September 21, 2009 - 04:53 PM

My view on new technology is if they can make it better, then they should. And the sooner it can be released publicly, the sooner the prices will go down on the tech.

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Posted September 21, 2009 - 08:38 PM

^ We obviously don't agree often, but in this instance, I could not agree with you anymore on what you just said.

3D is just one of the next steps in home entertainment. Soon there will be HDMI 1.4, and resolution will be 4 times 1080p.

Care to elaborate on that? What have you heard? How soon can that possibly be? What's being predicted?

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Posted September 21, 2009 - 08:39 PM

I get that, and I'm for that, especially the prices going down. I'm mainly just thinking out loud, the rate technology is improving at is just hard to keep up with, gets hard to keep track of sometimes.
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Posted September 21, 2009 - 10:21 PM

^Yea that's how it's been with computers for a while now. Top of the line computers aren't top of the line in a matter of weeks.

^ We obviously don't agree often, but in this instance, I could not agree with you anymore on what you just said.Care to elaborate on that? What have you heard? How soon can that possibly be? What's being predicted?

2160p = 4 times resolution of 1080p. As early as next year till the technology is out for the public. You'll need new everything if you want that full 2160 (new blu-ray player/ps3, new tv, new everything that had the old HDMI hardware), but old devices will be backwards compatible.

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Posted September 21, 2009 - 10:42 PM

^ That's just insane man. 4 times that of 1080p? Just wow.

If it looks as amazing as it does already, just imagine then. Simply unreal.

I guess the Cowboys stadium biggest HDTV in the world would need an upgrade as well.

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Posted September 22, 2009 - 10:52 PM

As a geeky thing - the human eye cannot perceive any difference above (If I remember correctly) 1480P. Anything above that is pointless, as nobody will be able to discern a difference. So there will be a stopping point as far as resolution. What will be improved is the refresh rate (as you've seen TV's jump from 60hz to 240hz in a matter of 1 year). When the refresh rate of an LCD or LED (or eventually OLED) TV reaches up towards 960hz, something else will be improved. You can be bummed and wait forever, or find what you like, stick with it for as long as you can afford to, then make the jump to your next comfort level. Again, you don't HAVE to have the latest thing. The new advancements in tech stuff (especially TV's and such) takes a while to refine.

And about your point of why they don't make it work with your current stuff... because they know most people who care about such things will buy it despite protests. The same complaint has been filed about every jump in technology as far as home entertainment goes (i.e. - CDs, DVDs, Video Tape, Cassettes, 8-tracks, Cable & Satellite TV, Widescreen TVs and on and on). There's always an initial feeble boycott, but in the end virtually everyone signs off on it and comes aboard. Either because they want the tech stuff or they have the "keep up with the Joneses" affliction.

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Posted September 22, 2009 - 11:21 PM

That's what I was thinking, about the resolution only being able to go so high. I mean they can make it go as high as they want, but after a point it can only look so sharp, our eyes can only see so good. As far as keeping up with technology, I really don't, like you said I just buy what I like and can afford. I honestly think I'll have the tv I have now for years and years to come unless the new technology is just amazing AND cheap. But as I'm set up now my PS3 games and blu-rays look fantastic so I don't need any upgrades. I'm sure by the time there is a new standard in tvs above LCD/Plasma/LED and something above Blu-Ray I'll upgrade, but that will be a while for me.
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Posted September 23, 2009 - 12:16 PM

And about your point of why they don't make it work with your current stuff... because they know most people who care about such things will buy it despite protests. The same complaint has been filed about every jump in technology as far as home entertainment goes (i.e. - CDs, DVDs, Video Tape, Cassettes, 8-tracks, Cable & Satellite TV, Widescreen TVs and on and on). There's always an initial feeble boycott, but in the end virtually everyone signs off on it and comes aboard. Either because they want the tech stuff or they have the "keep up with the Joneses" affliction.

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