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#21 Makaveli

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 10:49 AM

Kobe is a better outside shooter but Jordan was a better defender.

Jordan also had a better post up game than Kobe has. Also MJ's big hands made his shots a lot easier (Phil said that). 

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 11:14 AM

Jordan went to the hoop, Kobe shoots fadeaway jumpers for some reason. -_-

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 11:15 AM

Jordan also had a better post up game than Kobe has. Also MJ's big hands made his shots a lot easier (Phil said that). 


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Posted July 21, 2009 - 11:19 AM

idc what anybody says...imo kobe is the G.O.A.T



in terms of achievement MJ's the best there is, the best there was, the best there will ever be.


but skill wise and work ethic... Kobe hands down

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 01:44 PM

Jordan went to the hoop, Kobe shoots fadeaway jumpers for some reason. -_-


Read the thread and you'll find out the reason.

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 03:50 PM

MJ shot 50% because he was often setup in the post since the Bulls didn't really have a serious postup player. Kobe on the other hand played with Shaq, Bynum, and Pau Gasol. He needs to shoot jumpers to complement his bigs.

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 04:05 PM

BTW, Jordan was not a better defender than Kobe and did not have a better post game than Kobe has now.

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 04:07 PM

kobe can shoot 50% dis season guys trust
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Posted July 21, 2009 - 05:46 PM

BTW, Jordan was not a better defender than Kobe and did not have a better post game than Kobe has now.


Jordan was DPOY the same year he won MVP. Jordan also had a great post up game. Kobe seldom posts up. Jordan also was the better driver as he was more explosive to the hoop.
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Posted July 21, 2009 - 06:28 PM

BTW, Jordan was not a better defender than Kobe and did not have a better post game than Kobe has now.

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 06:33 PM

^ Real Deal Is absolutely right.. :) Kobe is having much more def. attention.. That's way he isn't able to make it 50% ot of the time :( But i think the def. in NBA now can't be compared with the def. in 80' and early 90' :)

I think his shot selection is a big reason too. Jordan took smarter shots as his career progressed. Well, so has Kobe, but at this point in his career he still should be smarter with his selection than he actually is.

But anyway, this argument is worthless. The debate is MJ vs Kobe. Not MJ's era vs Kobe's era.

MJ shot 50% because he was often setup in the post since the Bulls didn't really have a serious postup player. Kobe on the other hand played with Shaq, Bynum, and Pau Gasol. He needs to shoot jumpers to complement his bigs.

lol, then how come he didn't shoot 50% before he had those two in the post?
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Posted July 21, 2009 - 06:35 PM

lol, then how come he didn't shoot 50% before he had those two in the post?


Because he had to carry a crappy team on his back all by himself for about 4 years? :unsure:

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 06:37 PM

Because he had to carry a crappy team on his back all by himself for about 4 years? :unsure:

Jordan carried crappy teams too and shot 50%. Even as a rookie.
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Posted July 21, 2009 - 06:38 PM

Jordan carried crappy teams too and shot 50%. Even as a rookie.


Different era, different defenses, different looks on the offensive end.

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 06:41 PM

Different era, different defenses, different looks on the offensive end.

So before you said it was because he had to carry a crappy team, now it's because of different eras defensively. Right :rolleyes:
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Posted July 21, 2009 - 06:54 PM

Jordan carried crappy teams too and shot 50%. Even as a rookie.


The "Jordan Rules" had yet to be invented when MJ was a rookie.

Don't know what the "Jordan Rules" are? Look them up on google.

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 06:55 PM

The "Jordan Rules" had yet to be invented when MJ was a rookie.

Don't know what the "Jordan Rules" are? Look them up on google.

lol, the only team who used "the Jordan Rules" was Detroit. Jordan shot over 50% more than once in his career. Why don't you look THAT up on google.
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Posted July 21, 2009 - 06:58 PM

So before you said it was because he had to carry a crappy team, now it's because of different eras defensively. Right :rolleyes:


Before? I posted that 3 minutes earlier than my second reply, I didn't change my mind :lol:

Both are factors. The era of basketball and the fact that carrying a team on ones back is no easy task. Jordan had the same task as Kobe, and he fared just as Kobe did. He shot a higher percentage, yes, but that's because he had better looks on the offensive end than Kobe did. The fact that Jordan was an athletic freak and had great hands helps him too.

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Posted July 21, 2009 - 07:02 PM

Before? I posted that 3 minutes earlier than my second reply, I didn't change my mind :lol:

Both are factors. The era of basketball and the fact that carrying a team on ones back is no easy task. Jordan had the same task as Kobe, and he fared just as Kobe did. He shot a higher percentage, yes, but that's because he had better looks on the offensive end than Kobe did. The fact that Jordan was an athletic freak and had great hands helps him too.

People need to leave athleticism and build out of player comparisons. That's one of the weakest arguments to make.

At the end of the day, Jordan still has the higher field goal percentages and better stats overall while Laker fans have nothing but excuses.
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Posted July 21, 2009 - 07:07 PM

People need to leave athleticism and build out of player comparisons. That's one of the weakest arguments to make.

At the end of the day, Jordan still has the higher field goal percentages and better stats overall while Laker fans have nothing but excuses.


How can you leave out such big parts of players game out of a comparison?

Athleticism and Build mean everything when a player utilizes them as effectively as Jordan did. His whole game for the early part of his career was based upon his athleticism, not his shooting ability. Sure, he had a nice shot, but it can't be compared to his shot in the latter stages of his career.




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