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#1 LALakersFan4Life

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Posted May 17, 2009 - 12:02 PM

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For the first time since LeBron James came into the league, opposing teams are fearful of his teammates.

"They've got weapons all over the floor," said Hawks coach Mike Woodson, who saw his team get swept by Cleveland in the second round. "As good as he is, and LeBron is one of the best I've seen in 27 years in this league, he doesn't do it alone."

The biggest addition has been guard Maurice Williams, who joined James in Phoenix for the All-Star Game this February. James calls Williams his "sidekick."

"We got 10 or 11 guys who have started on other teams," James said. "We got guys who know how to play significant minutes, guys who know how to play basketball. We haven't had that in the past."


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Posted May 17, 2009 - 01:23 PM

he has better teammates than Kobe to me...his teammates are willing to do the dirt work, I see Kobe doing all the dirty work(ok, Ariza and powell) where as Lebron never gets his hands dirty
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Posted May 17, 2009 - 02:57 PM

yea, most people would have said you were crazy at the beginning of this season, but, albeit against relatively poor competition, their role players have played much more consistently, and with more fire and passion than basically everyone on our team

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Posted May 17, 2009 - 03:05 PM

cavs are stacked

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Posted May 17, 2009 - 03:27 PM

I could've sworn BSPN said that Lebron is single-handedly leading his team of scrubs to historic heights.

Of course the Cavs are more than just the Lebron show. THey have a group of guys who are tough and understand their roles on the team. They have great team chemistry, are good shooters, and play defense, all of which cater to Lebron's style of play.
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#6 TheCalmInsanity

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Posted May 18, 2009 - 01:28 AM

Lakers are MUCH more stacked talent-wise than Cleveland.

Let's just SAY for the sake of the least arguing possible, that Kobe and Lebron cancel each other out.

I would say Andrew Bynum is much more dominant (when he wants to be) than Big Z (although Big Z has a nice jumper).

Pau Gasol absolutely KILLS varejao

Would you rather have Lamar Odom or Wally Szcerbiak? They're both really highly paid.. However, one can still get triple doubles and take over games while the other one.. Shoots from the outside once in a while

Ariza is a better defender than every single one of their players other than Lebron

Okay, so Mo Williams wins the matchup with Derek Fisher.. That's 1 for the Cavs

Delonte West is kinda like the Farmar of the Lakers

Sasha Vujacic can be a sparkplug sometimes.. There are no real quick hitters like that for the Cavs

Shannon Brown is playing as well if not better than Joe Smith, although talentwise I would give it to Joe Smith until Brown gets more playing time



You guys don't realize how loaded this Laker team is. The difference? Why the Cavs are dominating and playing consistently well?

HUSTLE, HEART, AND PASSION DEFEAT TALENT ANYDAY.

Edited by TheCalmInsanity, May 18, 2009 - 01:29 AM.

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Posted May 18, 2009 - 01:35 AM

^^^^^^^
From what I've seen, the Cavs appear to have better team chemistry than we do as well. Though it's been said before, they have lots of players who understand their roles, and they commit wholeheartedly to playing defense. Their knockdown shooters free up the lane for Lebron, and Lebron's penetration creates open looks for the shooters. This team is custom-made for Lebron's game.
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Posted May 18, 2009 - 01:45 AM

HUSTLE, HEART, AND PASSION DEFEAT TALENT ANYDAY.

Been saying this for the second half of the season until now. Should be their new team motto.

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Posted May 18, 2009 - 02:09 AM

Lol at people who say the Cavs have a better roster than the Lakers. What are you trying to prove? That's not a Lakers fan right there, that's a Kobe fan. Why do you wanna say that your team is worse (besides Kobe of course) when it's not? Our team is stacked. It's just that they have some damn good chemistry and their roleplayers are doing their jobs.

And I see Lebron getting his hands dirty a lot, he does a damn lot for the team.

Cavs have done a good job of building around Lebron.

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Posted May 18, 2009 - 04:31 AM

Lakers are MUCH more stacked talent-wise than Cleveland.

Let's just SAY for the sake of the least arguing possible, that Kobe and Lebron cancel each other out.

I would say Andrew Bynum is much more dominant (when he wants to be) than Big Z (although Big Z has a nice jumper).

Pau Gasol absolutely KILLS varejao

Would you rather have Lamar Odom or Wally Szcerbiak? They're both really highly paid.. However, one can still get triple doubles and take over games while the other one.. Shoots from the outside once in a while

Ariza is a better defender than every single one of their players other than Lebron

Okay, so Mo Williams wins the matchup with Derek Fisher.. That's 1 for the Cavs

Delonte West is kinda like the Farmar of the Lakers

Sasha Vujacic can be a sparkplug sometimes.. There are no real quick hitters like that for the Cavs

Shannon Brown is playing as well if not better than Joe Smith, although talentwise I would give it to Joe Smith until Brown gets more playing time



You guys don't realize how loaded this Laker team is. The difference? Why the Cavs are dominating and playing consistently well?

HUSTLE, HEART, AND PASSION DEFEAT TALENT ANYDAY.



No way is West like Farmar. West is way better.

Our Sasha Vujacic is their Gibson

Lakers still have better talent then the Cavs. Its just that L.A. isn't using that talent to the fullest. They are lazy, inconsistent and sometimes not focus BUT if they do their groove on, when everyone is clicking. They are the best team in the League.
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Posted May 18, 2009 - 07:31 AM

West > Fisher
Gibson > Farmar
Lebron = Kobe
Odom > Varejao
Big Z > Bynum
Phil > Mike


Wally is much more consistent than Odom.

Sasha pwns no one but himself.

As a team, we're better offensively but the Cavs are MUCH more better than us defensively.

And Delonte West pwns Fisher/Farmar so much its not even funny.

Edited by Windu, May 18, 2009 - 07:32 AM.

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Posted May 18, 2009 - 07:55 AM

LeBron = Kobe ? Are you serious ?

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Posted May 18, 2009 - 08:35 AM

West > Fisher
Gibson > Farmar
Lebron = Kobe
Odom > Varejao
Big Z > Bynum
Phil > Mike


Wally is much more consistent than Odom.

Sasha pwns no one but himself.

As a team, we're better offensively but the Cavs are MUCH more better than us defensively.

And Delonte West pwns Fisher/Farmar so much its not even funny.


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Posted May 18, 2009 - 09:37 AM

LeBron = Kobe ? Are you serious ?

for the sake of the teammate argument, they're canceling eachother out for now...not a bron bron/kobe debate, its a teammate debate

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Posted May 18, 2009 - 09:48 AM

Does anybody realize that Pau was the star to a 50 win, playoff team in Memphis. He was their franchise player. Our team is loaded. Does anyone else's team have two franchise players on it? The only other one is Boston. Ray/KG/Paul were all the main men on their respective teams. Don't turn this into a Kobe/Lebron debate. But you can go through matchups from best to worst player.

Best to worst players
Kobe=Lebron
Pau>Mo
Lamar>>>>Big Z
Bynum>>>>Ben Wallace
Fisher<Delonte
Farmar>>Gibson
Ariza> Wally
Powell=Joe Smith

and we still have Shannon Brown, Sasha, Luke who make impacts on a nightly basis (Sasha has been mostly negative). This is of course if all the players were playing their best, we'd blow any team out of the water. The only reason it is close is because we don't always try hard and they have guys who are always scrappin'. Plus our complimentary players are only going to get better. Big Z, Ben, Joe Smith aren't gonna be around much longer, and Wally is getting up there as well.

Edited by Klewfish, May 18, 2009 - 05:00 PM.

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#16 last stand 2.0

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Posted May 18, 2009 - 10:08 AM

only thing cleveland truly has is a much better spacing of the floor compared to our congestion

talent wise its not contest

but effort, toughness, spacing, hustle are all in cleveland's favor for now
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Posted May 18, 2009 - 10:34 AM

West > Fisher
Gibson > Farmar
Lebron = Kobe
Odom > Varejao
Big Z > Bynum
Phil > Mike


Wally is much more consistent than Odom.

Sasha pwns no one but himself.

As a team, we're better offensively but the Cavs are MUCH more better than us defensively.

And Delonte West pwns Fisher/Farmar so much its not even funny.



I have this feeling you're forgetting someone... :rolleyes:



He does it on purpose.






Anyway, I look at the pic and I think...
IS this a playoff game, or a dunk contest?

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Posted May 18, 2009 - 12:10 PM

They also play 10x smarter than us, and play excellent team defense

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Posted May 18, 2009 - 12:18 PM

i hate how ppl put lebron like kobe in 06. like lebron has NOBODY

i want lebron to play with players like cook, smush, kwame, chucky etc..
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Posted May 18, 2009 - 01:30 PM

LeBron has better teammates?

Put Pau on that team, give us Z. See how different our seasons go.




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