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#21 FranklinPeanuts

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 12:53 PM

Odom has been playing good basketball... Drew should be patient.. Trust the coaches decision and play hard when his number is called.
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Posted April 26, 2009 - 01:48 PM

until he can box out a 6'8 or 6'9 paul millsap.. he sits..

plays bad d, and no rebounding right now..

what did phil say to him? focus on D and rebounding..

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 02:37 PM

In the Western Conference, we'll be fine without Bynum.


We'll be fine with Pau guarding Yao Ming?

We'll be fine with Pau guarding Oden? Do you remember what Oden did to Pau in the last Portland game?

Please explain.

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 02:56 PM

I realize Bynum is frustrated because he isn't getting enough minutes, but it was a tough situation on the road and we needed Odom instead of Bynum. I feel we can give Bynum alot more minutes at home because he will be more comfortable and get his groove back.

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 03:00 PM

Bynum, you had 5 fouls in seven minutes in game 3.

You've been out for almost half the season due to injury.

Phil is doing this to either, motivate you to play better, or to rest you for the later rounds.

Or he wants to win. So hes doing anything he can to win for this team. :D
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Posted April 26, 2009 - 03:02 PM

One of them was questionable. Doesn't matter, though, because that's the game of basketball. Bynum has a history of getting into early foul trouble, and it's something that he needs to fix, immediately.

We need physicality, but we don't need professional wrestling.

Sadly, Vujacic is the same way.

Two of them were questionable: the spin move in the lane that should have been a three point play and Collins flop away from the ball. He's getting no love from the refs. That said, he needs to get his head out of his azz and start playing. I don't agree he's overrated, however there are unreasonable expectations set for a 21 year old who's only been back eight games after missing 32. It'll take a while, but he'll be back.

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 03:26 PM

We'll be fine with Pau guarding Yao Ming?

We'll be fine with Pau guarding Oden? Do you remember what Oden did to Pau in the last Portland game?

Please explain.

"We'll be fine" meaning we will beat both Houston and Portland without Bynum. Pau sure the hell won't defend anyone, as we have seen in the Utah series...but, yes, as we've seen in the Utah series, we will win regardless of that.

Yao Ming would abuse both Pau and Bynum, so that doesn't matter.

And I don't worry about Portland, because we won't be playing them (and even if we were, they won't beat us in Los Angeles).

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 03:28 PM

Two of them were questionable: the spin move in the lane that should have been a three point play and Collins flop away from the ball. He's getting no love from the refs. That said, he needs to get his head out of his azz and start playing. I don't agree he's overrated, however there are unreasonable expectations set for a 21 year old who's only been back eight games after missing 32. It'll take a while, but he'll be back.

Bynum puts himself in those positions. That's his fault.

That's like how Odom always drives the lane, acting like a wreckless two-guard, out of control while disregarding players sliding underneath him and drawing the charge. There are a few times where the player is still moving while Odom gets off the ground, but Lamar does it so often (and they draw a charge so often) that it's more than likely going to go the other way.

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 03:54 PM

The greatest thing, other than Kobe, about the lakers is that they are interchangable. Utah is a bad match up for Drew. We are built like that for this very reason. It makes us the BEST team in the NBA. :angry:
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Posted April 26, 2009 - 04:11 PM

I do think we will need Andrew to win the championship, even if we can win the West without him.

Phil has to be careful not to shrink Andrew's brain so much that he loses all of his confidence isn't able to play up to par in June.

But remember, in the same fashion that Andrew played like crap at the beginning of last season, but was dominating in stretches by December, he has the potential to get back into a great rhythm by the Finals.

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 04:39 PM

"We'll be fine" meaning we will beat both Houston and Portland without Bynum. Pau sure the hell won't defend anyone, as we have seen in the Utah series...but, yes, as we've seen in the Utah series, we will win regardless of that.

Yao Ming would abuse both Pau and Bynum, so that doesn't matter.

And I don't worry about Portland, because we won't be playing them (and even if we were, they won't beat us in Los Angeles).


We'll beat Houston, but how much energy is Pau going to expend trying guard Yao. Pau played in the Finals last season, then the Olympics, then had to play major minutes when Drew went down again. If we're going to go all the way, it would be best not to wear him out.

Yao abusing Drew? No way. Drew has been giving Yao trouble the last few seasons, especially when Yao tries to back him down. Drew holds up his position well. Will Yao get his points? Sure, but not the easy way.

Edited by revgen, April 26, 2009 - 04:49 PM.


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Posted April 26, 2009 - 04:47 PM

We'll be fine with Pau guarding Yao Ming?

We'll be fine with Pau guarding Oden? Do you remember what Oden did to Pau in the last Portland game?

Please explain.



Pau vs Yao? Maybe.
Hopefully, it's Yao...I'd hate to have to go thru POR....assuming we make it thru POR. And yes, I'm serious.

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 06:56 PM

Definitely agree with Kool Aide... Lamar has stepped up and Drew just needs to stay patient.
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Posted April 26, 2009 - 07:53 PM

Odom has been playing good basketball... Drew should be patient.. Trust the coaches decision and play hard when his number is called.


Well-said. :)

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 08:52 PM

Didn't Mbenga do a good job on Yao last time?

I agree with Real Deal with we won't need Bynum as much when we're playing against the Western Conference teams, except for Denver who's big men can dominate against us without Bynum.

I do have faith in Bynum, he'll get his rhythm back.

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 09:07 PM

Pau vs Yao? Maybe.
Hopefully, it's Yao...I'd hate to have to go thru POR....assuming we make it thru POR. And yes, I'm serious.


Well, good news is that Houston narrowly beat Portland by 1 point tonight, so they have a 3-1 advantage. Let's hope that's who we meet in the 2nd round.

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Posted April 26, 2009 - 09:53 PM

As noted in the other thread, Yao dropped 19/17 on 50% FG against Bynum, and that was in their last meeting (January, I believe), while Bynum had 11/1 on 42% from the floor.

Before that, 55% shooting from Yao, and in Nov. 2007, Yao hung 26/13 while going to the line and attempting 20 free throws.

Bynum isn't good enough to defend Yao Ming, especially now that Yao is the primary option in Houston's offense, and adding Bynum's injury...it's good that we bring him off the bench, because he wants no part of Ming until he's tired.

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Posted April 27, 2009 - 08:38 AM

I apologize for what I'm about to say in advance. My thoughts are only a reflection of Andrew Bynum's complaints that hes not playing enough minutes. Not his character, ability or potential.

Drew needs to grow the eF up yo. He was out 3-4 months. This is playoff ball. Hes no where near playoff game shape. Hes not even in pre seaosn game shape. Dude signs a big money guarenteed contract then gets injured. It aint his bad he got injured (its KB's fault actually) so I dont fault him for that. But now dudes gotta act professional and excersize some diligence about the situation. His team and coach are trying to win it all and need to make the decisions based on that sole effort. I'e seen other players this year need to make adjustments in their games to help the TEAM.
LO off the bench
Luke says start Ariza
Ariza questions Lukes recomendation because of his own lack of experience.
Sasha says dont worry about my minutes as long as we win I dont care
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And KB every time he passes the ball.....
Instead of taking time to biatch to the media and causing friction in the locker room he should be working with Kareem in the Gym or watching game film to figure out how/why Boozer was running NFL receiver patterns around his arse.

And speaking of NFL receivers if Drew wants to pull some Terrell Owens b.s. this early in his career then I dont think it looks optimistic for the future. He's barely a star in the league. Hes known most for being injury prone and thats it. And hes allready talking smack like this about a HOF coach with 9 championships. What happens in 5 years if the prodigal center does become the Lakers main man? Will he do so with grace, humbleness and integrity or are comments like this just a small foreshadow of whats to come?

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Posted April 27, 2009 - 11:43 AM

Odom is starting tonight, if Okur starts for the Jazz.

Source: Phil Jackson.

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Posted April 27, 2009 - 02:00 PM

Odom can start, yet Phil should play Bynum at least 15 minutes to try to acquire a rhythm. If he plays well, then give him 15-20. If he's going to play Bynum less than 10 minutes, then he might as well not bother to play him at all.

Edited by revgen, April 27, 2009 - 02:02 PM.





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