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#1 SaintNicholasVanExel

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Posted August 15, 2008 - 02:58 PM

This is a photo from the Spanish Tennis Federation's Website:

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Posted August 15, 2008 - 03:01 PM

Some of them look Mexican, but no in seriousness, I have a feeling it's actually a friendly gesture. I know that sounds crazy & perhaps asinine to some, but I really don't think they mean it in a racist way, nor did the Men's or Women's Spanish team either.

I don't have the pics unfortunately to prove it right now, but I've seen pictures before of Americans, other Europeans, & etc taking pictures just like these in FRONT of Chinese or Asian people, & they don't mind. It depends what the intention is, and I don't think the intention is serious or to be negative.

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Posted August 15, 2008 - 03:03 PM

I really don't know what's going on now. :D

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Posted August 15, 2008 - 03:04 PM

Least Nadal isn't on that...

Jeez this issue is starting to bewilder me....




#5 SaintNicholasVanExel

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Posted August 15, 2008 - 03:06 PM

I think that, for the most part, they don't know it's offensive to some. It obviously must be accepted as a friendly gesture in Spain (and other European nations, ie. Greece, Italy, ect), if the Basketball Team advertisement ran unnoticed for a month.

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Posted August 15, 2008 - 03:34 PM

And guess who is starting this again? They just want to create a conflict, they are not looking for what's good for asians...
Forget this gesture already...
That is not considered RACIST here, you have to understand that.

In different countries things have different meanings.
Does this flag say something to you?

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Posted August 15, 2008 - 04:47 PM

In different countries things have different meanings.
Does this flag say something to you?
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Posted August 15, 2008 - 05:47 PM

Hmmmm....what the hell?

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Posted August 15, 2008 - 06:49 PM

How is that not racist? Sure it's meant in a lighthearted manner... but if the Olympics were in Kenya, and they all wore afros or something... would that be funny?

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Posted August 15, 2008 - 07:44 PM

In different countries things have different meanings.
Does this flag say something to you?

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Something's going over my head.
Explain.

Wild guess, does it have something to do with Mexico and or Mexicans?

Not sure, but regardless I'm with you on this discussion netlord. I truly don't believe it's meant as racist at all. I think it's a total misunderstanding. Americans just can't understand it, but not everytime someone does something, do they mean it racist. People are different. Misinterpretations here & there. The Chinese haven't even reacted to this nearly as much as Americans have & put so much attention to it. It's overblown & unecessary.

I've even seen non-Spanish players take pics like that in FRONT of Chinese people and they're cool with it, they just laugh along. It IS a friendly gesture coming from the Spanish. The Americans would be able to do the same as well and get off with it more IF they had as good or respectable a relationship with China as the Spain & other European countries do.

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Posted August 16, 2008 - 12:17 AM

Yeah I'm a chinese, never believed these to be racist or whatsoever, just find it funny...or maybe my history is a dreaded 'ungraded'....




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Posted August 16, 2008 - 12:36 AM

How is that not racist? Sure it's meant in a lighthearted manner... but if the Olympics were in Kenya, and they all wore afros or something... would that be funny?


I know what you mean... but I swear for a split second there I was laughing when I was picturing these people walking around with fake afros lol.. sorry, i think its late... but this act does confuse me a bit. Not sure how these Europeans think sometimes-
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Posted August 16, 2008 - 01:31 AM

In different countries things have different meanings.
Does this flag say something to you?

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Well this is a Spanish fascist flag. My pont is, it depends what is considered something racist, or something that can hurt people's feelings.
For you this flag doesn't bring anything inside you, doesn't mean anything. But here in Spain this brings a lot of bad feelings and anger.
If racist people in the states or in other parts have used this eye gesture to go against asians, we wouldn't know over here, at least very few people. And that's what you have to see.
If it's considered a problem, I think it wouldn't be a problem to tell them that this is not correct because it hurts people's feelings, but not start a campaign as the english press has done. (only one paper, as far as I know)
I love the US, it's the greatest country IMO, but sometimes you have to understand that you take things a bit too far, and give more importance to things that aren't important at all.
Because it's seems it's the only place apart from the Guardian english newspaper that is still with this story...

Edited by netlord, August 16, 2008 - 01:37 AM.

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