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#21 Makaveli

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:03 PM

3% is nothing, and when you shoot less, you have less opportunity to make up for your makes.

Try again. LeBron can shoot, and you're insecure about it.

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James: 41.3% eFG


41.3 % isn't good shooting.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:03 PM

okay so what you're saying is, at age 30, you want kobe to wear himself out by the time the playoffs roll around? He is smart because he is a great shooter, so instead of wasting energy and getting beat up on the way to the basket, he shoots and makes most of his shots and saves his body for the playoffs, when he starts doing everything, shoot, slash, get in deep, post up. do you remember what he did to Denver last year in the first round? or utah? how bout spurs? he destroyed them every way possible, he took it to the basket with authority and made outside shots. so don't tell me he has bad shot selection. when mj got old he wasn't going strong to the basket unless it was the playoffs.

You left out Boston

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:06 PM

3% is a lot, 3 percent can mean the difference between having 2000 points at the end of the season and having 1700 that's an extra 300 points you could've given your team.

You left out Boston

i left out boston because everytime he drove to the basket he got hammered and didn't get the call therefore resorting to jumpers.
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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:07 PM

okay so what you're saying is, at age 30, you want kobe to wear himself out by the time the playoffs roll around? He is smart because he is a great shooter, so instead of wasting energy and getting beat up on the way to the basket, he shoots and makes most of his shots and saves his body for the playoffs, when he starts doing everything, shoot, slash, get in deep, post up. do you remember what he did to Denver last year in the first round? or utah? how bout spurs? he destroyed them every way possible, he took it to the basket with authority and made outside shots. so don't tell me he has bad shot selection. when mj got old he wasn't going strong to the basket unless it was the playoffs.


No, what I'm saying is I want Kobe taking 38 shots per game, while attempting fade away 20 footers with 3 guys guarding him, instead of pounding the ball down low to Pau, and getting easy scores while cutting to the basket.

Kobe doesn't chuck in the playoffs, and becomes his efficient self like he was in the days of the 3 peat. I hope Kobe returns to how he was playing in the playoffs. When Kobe puts his mind to getting shots within the system and not chucking, he's the best player in the league. When he decides to chuck from outside, stop posting up, and stop passing, I'll take LeBron anyday.

3% is a lot, 3 percent can mean the difference between having 2000 points at the end of the season and having 1700 that's an extra 300 points you could've given your team.


i left out boston because everytime he drove to the basket he got hammered and didn't get the call therefore resorting to jumpers.

It's not a lot when you get most of your points driving to the rack.

And LMAO at the conspiracy 'world is against Kobe' ish.

Edited by lakerfool, March 05, 2009 - 08:08 PM.

Gooden>> Lamar Odom. Mo Williams>> Ray Allen>> Gasol. Nene= Gasol.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:07 PM

okay so what you're saying is, at age 30, you want kobe to wear himself out by the time the playoffs roll around? He is smart because he is a great shooter, so instead of wasting energy and getting beat up on the way to the basket, he shoots and makes most of his shots and saves his body for the playoffs, when he starts doing everything, shoot, slash, get in deep, post up. do you remember what he did to Denver last year in the first round? or utah? how bout spurs? he destroyed them every way possible, he took it to the basket with authority and made outside shots. so don't tell me he has bad shot selection. when mj got old he wasn't going strong to the basket unless it was the playoffs.

Great that you pointed it out. 

In the playoffs last year, Kobe was 90 of 141 under the basket.

This season he is 235 of 375 under the basket.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:10 PM

i left out boston because everytime he drove to the basket he got hammered and didn't get the call therefore resorting to jumpers.

You left out the fact he just had a crappy series both denfisively and offensiveley. I wonder what were LeBron's stats at BOSTON....

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:12 PM

Chucking? I'll tell you when he chucks, when he basically gets underneath the basket hands it off to his teammate and they miss countless times a game. he basically chews the food for them and spoon feeds them. When your teammates haven't made shots all day and you can score basically when you want to then why keep going to something that isn't working, if your teammates aren't delivering try to score yourself.

You left out the fact he just had a crappy series both denfisively and offensiveley. I wonder what were LeBron's stats at BOSTON....

are you forgetting lebron shot like 25% the entire series vs. the celtics? or do you only pay attention to kobe's awful stats against boston, the truth is both got limited to jumpers and obviously lebron sucked more because he doesn't have a consistent jumper. Kobe made shots but when you're the only one making shots its kinda hard to win a series you know.
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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:14 PM

are you forgetting lebron shot like 25% the entire series vs. the celtics? or do you only pay attention to kobe's awful stats against boston, the truth is both got limited to jumpers and obviously lebron sucked more because he doesn't have a consistent jumper. Kobe made shots but when you're the only one making shots its kinda hard to win a series you know.

I did not know those stats, I just wanted you to point it out, Thank you very much

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:15 PM

I have an idea: Kobe should just go to the rack like Iverson has his entire career, so he'll be able to retire five years early.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:16 PM

I have an idea: Kobe should just go to the rack like Iverson has his entire career, so he'll be able to retire five years early.


That's brilliant.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:16 PM

Does anybody else think lakerfool was dropped on his damn head when he was a child?
You are the most brainless, lebron [expletive] riding idiot on these forums man. The moment kobe has a bad game you go and suck lebron off live he's the lollypop flavor of the month.

Do you honestly believe Lebron is a good shooter, or a better shooter then kobe? You've lost your damn mind if you think that.

And just because stats say something, doesn't mean they show the real outcome, would you say because Vujacic is shooting so poorly and has a bad shooting percentage, that if you were to look at Greg Odens stats and notice his shooting percentage is higher that Greg's a better shooting because the stats say so?

You need to start doing your homework bruh. Im tired of reading your dumba$$ posts.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:18 PM

Does anybody else think lakerfool was dropped on his damn head when he was a child?
You are the most brainless, lebron [expletive] riding idiot on these forums man. The moment kobe has a bad game you go and suck lebron off live he's the lollypop flavor of the month.

Do you honestly believe Lebron is a good shooter, or a better shooter then kobe? You've lost your damn mind if you think that.

And just because stats say something, doesn't mean they show the real outcome, would you say because Vujacic is shooting so poorly and has a bad shooting percentage, that if you were to look at Greg Odens stats and notice his shooting percentage is higher that Greg's a better shooting because the stats say so?

You need to start doing your homework bruh. Im tired of reading your dumba$$ posts.

I have to disagree sir, I like Lakersfool's unbiased opions, I just think your a little upset that he is pointing up the negatives of Kobe's game cuz everybody knows Kobe is the next Jesus and will die perfect

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:23 PM

I have to disagree sir, I like Lakersfool's unbiased opions, I just think your a little upset that he is pointing up the negatives of Kobe's game cuz everybody knows Kobe is the next Jesus and will die perfect


lakerfool is very unbiased when it comes to his analysis of basketball, it's just that many people take offense when he puts LeBron ahead of Kobe here on TLN. He's looking at everything from an unbiased perspective, and has his own reasons for his views that he clearly proves in his posts.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:24 PM

I have an idea: Kobe should just go to the rack like Iverson has his entire career, so he'll be able to retire five years early.

Or he can pass the ball a little bit more when he doesn't have a shot instead of chucking.
Gooden>> Lamar Odom. Mo Williams>> Ray Allen>> Gasol. Nene= Gasol.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:24 PM

On jumpshots:
James: 41.3% eFG
Kobe: 46.2% eFG
Wade: 43.9% eFG
Durant: 46.4% eFG


nice stats, Durant man, the Lakers gotta get their hands on this guy

3% is a lot, 3 percent can mean the difference between having 2000 points at the end of the season and having 1700 that's an extra 300 points you could've given your team.


great job pointint out that 3 percent can go a long way

It's not a lot when you get most of your points driving to the rack.


great job working your away around the question, haha, i see politics in your future

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:25 PM

lakerfool is very unbiased when it comes to his analysis of basketball, it's just that many people take offense when he puts LeBron ahead of Kobe here on TLN. He's looking at everything from an unbiased perspective, and has his own reasons for his views that he clearly proves in his posts.

I don't put LeBron over Kobe. To me it's a tossup.

When Kobe plays efficiently, I take him easily over LeBron. When Kobe decides to be superhero I want to score 40 points every night, I will put LeBron over him.
Gooden>> Lamar Odom. Mo Williams>> Ray Allen>> Gasol. Nene= Gasol.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:26 PM

Or he can pass the ball a little bit more when he doesn't have a shot instead of chucking.


LeBron only passes to get his assists up.

And you get off Kobe's nuts already.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:27 PM

I don't put LeBron over Kobe. To me it's a tossup.

When Kobe plays efficiently, I take him easily over LeBron. When Kobe decides to be superhero I want to score 40 points every night, I will put LeBron over him.


Yeah, that's what I was implying after reading your post about Kobe and his efficiency in the playoffs. My bad for the confusion.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:29 PM

LeBron only passes to get his assists up.


lol
Gooden>> Lamar Odom. Mo Williams>> Ray Allen>> Gasol. Nene= Gasol.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 08:32 PM

Lebron James Eastern Semis:
fgm-fga pct

Game 1: 2-18 pct: 11%
Game 2: 6-24 pct: 25%
Game 3: 5-16 pct: 31.2%
Game 4: 7-20 pct: 35%
Game 5: 12-25 pct: 48%
Game 6: 9-23 pct: 39%
Game 7: 14-29 pct: 48%
Entire series: 55-155: 35%

Kobe Finals

Game 1: 9-26 34%
Game 2: 11-23 47%
Game 3: 12-20 60%
Game 4: 6-19 31.5%
Game 5: 8-21 38%
Game 6: 7-22 31.8%
entire series: 53-131 40%
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