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#21 LA Forever

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 04:39 PM

He has something on his mind, let him speak. Freedom of speech people. Shaq is laughs, and it doesn't matter who it's directed at.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 05:29 PM

You'd rather see Kobe score 80 points and have us win zero rings, than the two together winning 3 rings. I'm a Laker fan, so I prefer the 3 rings, rather than chucking for 81.

no I wouldnt. i LOVE the Lakers, i just dont care for Shaq. Last time I checked he was a starter for a division rival
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Posted March 05, 2009 - 05:32 PM

no I wouldnt. i LOVE the Lakers, i just dont care for Shaq. Last time I checked he was a starter for a division rival

LOL @ "division rival".

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 05:34 PM

LOL @ "division rival".

well if not them, then who is? Sac-Town or the Clippers
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Posted March 05, 2009 - 05:35 PM

We have no true rivals right now in the Western Conference.

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 05:47 PM


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Posted March 05, 2009 - 05:59 PM

well if not them, then who is? Sac-Town or the Clippers

Well rivals are only when you win and lose against each others... We have yet to beat the Suns on a 7 game series...

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Posted March 05, 2009 - 06:07 PM

Well rivals are only when you win and lose against each others... We have yet to beat the Suns on a 7 game series...

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well I said division and of course they arent OUR RIVALS, but the Suns are our division rivals. Im not saying that its an all-time rivalry or anything
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Posted March 05, 2009 - 06:39 PM

Well rivals are only when you win and lose against each others... We have yet to beat the Suns on a 7 game series...

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Posted March 06, 2009 - 07:01 AM

Ok, but those 2 teams had rings while getting rid of us during the PO, while Phoenix didn't... Can't see them as a rival when they won't even reach the Finals... Would only make them look like a fluke...
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Posted March 06, 2009 - 07:52 AM

well I said division and of course they arent OUR RIVALS, but the Suns are our division rivals. Im not saying that its an all-time rivalry or anything

They're only a rivals in the figment of your imagination that makes you hate Shaq. The Suns aren't anywhere near the Lakers.
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Posted March 06, 2009 - 09:24 AM

Stan Van Gundy ribbed Shaquille O'Neal for flopping in a game on Tuesday night, so O'Neal attacked Van Gundy's coaching abilities.

On Thursday, Van Gundy laughed off the back-and-forth.

"He's dealt with this like he's dealt with everything else," Van Gundy told the Sentinel. "I think it's funny."

Van Gundy said he was "joking" when he expressed disappointment in O'Neal's decision to flop against the Magic.

"Flopping would describe his coaching," O'Neal said in response, also saying that Van Gundy's players hate him.

"Whatever. I don't know ... that's his estimation of my coaching. I'm not going to worry about it too much," Van Gundy said. "Actually, that [Shaq's criticism] puts me in good company, very good company.

"He's taken shots at Phil Jackson and Pat Riley, so maybe I should consider it an honor."


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Posted March 06, 2009 - 03:07 PM

Shaq to Van Gundy: ‘Don’t play with me’



HOUSTON (AP)—Shaquille O’Neal is still seething about Stan Van Gundy criticizing him for allegedly flopping, even after the Orlando coach apologized.

The so-called Flop-Flap started Tuesday night, when Shaq and the Phoenix Suns played the Magic in Orlando. Dwight Howard made a spin move in the third quarter, O’Neal fell trying to draw an offensive foul, and Howard easily dunked.

Afterward, Van Gundy said he was “shocked and very disappointed” that O’Neal would resort to such a tactic. O’Neal fired back, calling his former coach in Miami “a frontrunner” and “a master of panic.”

Van Gundy said he was sorry Thursday and jokingly called Shaq “a very sensitive guy.” But O’Neal wasn’t laughing about it in Houston on Friday morning, where the Suns were preparing to play Yao Ming and the Rockets in the evening.

“Don’t play with me,” O’Neal said. “Seriously, don’t play with me. Like I said earlier, I don’t like frontrunners. I think he used the wrong choice of words. Flopping means that, hey, Shaq does that all the time. The rules say, you take it in the middle, you’ve got to fall back. And that’s what I did.”

Van Gundy and O’Neal have developed an icy relationship since Shaq went to play for Van Gundy in Miami for the 2004-05 season. The Heat won 59 games that season, but it ended with a loss to Detroit. After the game, O’Neal said he didn’t get the ball enough.

Van Gundy resigned 21 games into the following season, Pat Riley returned to the bench and the Heat won a championship, O’Neal’s fourth title.

Shaq said Friday the spat with Van Gundy was finished as far as he was concerned—but he still wanted to have the final word.

“It was a cheap shot,” O’Neal said of Van Gundy’s original barb. “They won the game, move on. My thing is, I don’t ask for a lot, but I demand my respect, especially from a guy like that.

“It’s over now. He said what he had to say, I said what I had to say. Don’t play with me.”

O’Neal said he and the 7-foot-6 Yao should be the ones complaining about players who flop. O’Neal said smaller players often get the benefit of the doubt from referees when they try to guard them.

“Flopping has become a big concern, but I just take it as a sign of ultimate respect,” O’Neal said. “(A player thinks), ‘I can’t guard you. I’m just going to fall down and cry to the refs.’ Most of the time, the ref believes it.

“It’s always David and Goliath,” O’Neal said. “The little man always gets it. Their thing is, ‘You’re big and strong, you can take it.’ But my point is, a pinch feels the same to me as it feels to you. Like I always try to tell you referees: You guys make the rules up, so a foul is a foul. It doesn’t matter if a guy is bigger and stronger.”


Yao complained about the officiating after he fouled out of Wednesday’s 101-94 loss in Utah. His sixth foul came after he collided with Ronnie Brewer with 1:23 left in the game.

Yao agreed with O’Neal that referees seem to have a double standard.

“I know for the rest of the players and the rest of the referees, they don’t face us every night,” Yao said. “We face those rules every night. That makes us feel different.”


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