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[OxfDaniel]

"[Age] is a bigger problem than doping," Bela Karolyi said. "I think it's more cheating than doping. To look in the eye of everybody and to show up with a team underage? My god, it's not good."

Oh jeez, now thats gotta be a bit silly there.

[tru'tildeath]

i saw this but i wasen't paying attention to china's 11year olds. alicia sacramone is pretty hot

[lakerfool]

^ Lmao, so I am right. Well there's no point in this case cuz we're just gonna' keep agreeing to disagree. I see it & interpret things one way & you another. I don't know how much investigations/research you've done and or how many documentaries or stuff you've read, but based on everything I've seen, that is why I feel the way I do.

You've always had a knack for almost purposely trying to choose the opposing side sometimes just because. It's kinda' funny actually, not knocking your opinion, but I've just noticed throughout your posting time as this & Xepa..

I'm really on the Chinese side on this. They're the underdogs whether younger or older considering they come from impoverished families. If you read on their point of view, you'd take their side too. Unfortunately the US media does not let you see the human side of Chinese people, and makes you think of China as a machine with a bunch of robots.

[nameant]

These children are taken away from their families at such a young age, you think they know anything about their family's financial situation? Gimme a break. They don't know what the hell poverty means. All they know is they're being taken away from their family and forced to do what people tell them to do day in and day out. You really think at age 3 these kids parents tell them, "Alright, you're going to live with these people. Now do what they tell you to do or else we'll starve to death." Whatever medal they won is irrelevant to what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the way these kids live and the way their country treats them. You act as if they're being done a favor by taking these kids from their families. If you're at the point where you'll basically sell your kid, then maybe you shouldn't be having kids. I would never give my child away and reap the benefits. If I'm poor, I'm going to be poor with my child at my side. Life is more important than money or fame. All those years they missed out on with their children, nothing can replace that. Surely not a Gold medal or any medal for that matter. They told a story on NBC about the oldest "woman" on the team, age "20", that she called her parents and told them she didn't like it and wanted to go home but her mom said, "No, you're staying there." I'm sorry I don't care how poor you are, that's F'd up.

[Icker]

dude, theres someting off bout her, dont go for it

[nameant]

The Associated Press found the Xinhua report on the site Thursday morning and saved a copy of the page. Later that afternoon, the Web site was still working but the page was no longer accessible.

:lol: So pathetic.

[tru'tildeath]

so gold medals to usa right? that sounds fair.

[netlord]

If they want to win medals, they are going to do whatever it takes...

[lakerfool]

So essentially, that means that team USA got owned by middle schoolers from poor families. That makes USA's loss look more pathetic.

[Machinehead]

All I know is, if it was one of our girls who was younger than 16, she would be getting ripped apart by the media and our country would look bad. But China is so messed up right now and they'll probably get away with it. It's just unfair.

[L.A.K.E.R]

Ugh, Nastia Liuken getting beaten by He Kexin (That 13 year old) is the worst show of judging I've ever seen. How can you deny Liuken a gold medal if she scores the exact same score? And then they showed the tie-breaking method used to determine the standings. Absolute BS. Taking away the worst and best score of each player to settle the standings is the stupidest method I've ever seen. They should've just let them face off with one more routine. In any case, the judges for Gymnastics are incompetent, what do judges from South Africa or New Zealand know about gymnastics? Heck, they haven't had any relevant athletes in the events for a while. Women's gymnastics in the 2008 Beijing Olympics is a scandal.

[lakerfool]

Being smaller, also means you are much weaker. Coming from a poorer country also puts them at a further disadvantage. In the opening show, they showed Lunkin riding with her dad to practice in his Porche. I find it hard to say that rich American girls were 'cheated' out of something.

[netlord]

Being smaller, also means you are much weaker. Coming from a poorer country also puts them at a further disadvantage. In the opening show, they showed Lunkin riding with her dad to practice in his Porche. I find it hard to say that rich American girls were 'cheated' out of something.

Nope, small doesn't mean weaker, they train hard in China, we all know that, If you add that to young and flexible you get an advantage. The girls might be poor (not the country, that's for sure) but that doesn't take the matter that they are cheating about their age...

[nameant]

Being smaller, also means you are much weaker. Coming from a poorer country also puts them at a further disadvantage. In the opening show, they showed Lunkin riding with her dad to practice in his Porche. I find it hard to say that rich American girls were 'cheated' out of something.

Wait, they're at a disadvantage b/c their country is poorer? :lol: You honestly think they don't have all the top notch equipment and coaching there is? Gimme a break. Why would China be so serious about gymnastics to where they'd take little girls as young as 3 years old from their families and then not provide them with the proper equipment, coaching, and whatever else they needed to succeed? You're making a lot of sense.

Edited by nameant, August 19, 2008 - 06:18 PM.

[lakerfool]

Wait, they're at a disadvantage b/c their country is poorer? :lol: You honestly think they don't have all the top notch equipment and coaching there is? Gimme a break. Why would China be so serious about gymnastics to where they'd take little girls as young as 3 years old from their families and then not provide them with the proper equipment, coaching, and whatever else they needed to succeed? You're making a lot of sense.

I'm sure these girls have dietitians, massage therapists, and father's who drive luxury German cars. You're making tons of sense too, lmao.

These kids only hope out of family is to live in these Gymnastic camps. I'm going to root for poor kids even if underaged over privileged rich kids anyday of the week.

[lakerfool]

Nope, small doesn't mean weaker, they train hard in China, we all know that, If you add that to young and flexible you get an advantage. The girls might be poor (not the country, that's for sure) but that doesn't take the matter that they are cheating about their age...

There shouldn't be an age limit in the first place. It makes no difference in reality though. I don't hear anybody complaining when the US takes an athlete from a third world country and puts them here. Lunkin is in America for that very reason.

The fact is, they were better than the American girls, and nobody can let go of it. It's called being a sore loser.