Jump to content




Photo

Wilt vs Jordan.. Who was the better scorer?


  • Please log in to reply
49 replies to this topic

#1 lbj23witness

lbj23witness

    Rookie

  • 38 posts
  • Joined: Dec 25, 2008

Posted February 21, 2009 - 07:34 PM

Let's compare Wilt Chamberlain to Jordan, for instance. Wilt has 56 NBA single-season records to Jordan's 4. Wilt nearly QUADRUPLED the number of 50 point games Jordan had in his career. Wilt led the league in assists, fg%, minutes and rebounds 29 times to Jordan's Zero. He owns 6 of the 9 70+ point games in history - Jordan has zero. He topped Jordan's best scoring season three times and Wilt's best scoring season is 13 ppg higher than Jordan's. Imagine Jordan leading the league in scoring at 33 ppg and the runner up having 20 ppg. Simply put, Wilt was in a class ahead of Jordan.

Mainly played again white, skinny guys? WTF? Ever hear the man Bill Russell, the greatest defensive player the game has ever produced, the best leader, and arguably the best player. Honestly, who defended Jordan during the 90s? Craig Ehlo, John Starks? LMAFO!

To say Jordan had won more titles than Wilt, would be stats would become irrelevant and that rings are the factor. Russell would be better, after all, he did win 11 rings. You also can't say Russell's stats were inferior to Jordan's, after all, Russell did average 22.5 REBOUNDS PER GAME!! He also finished top10 in assists FOUR times, compared to Jordan's 1, also averaging 15 pts a game.

____________________________

I am talking merely scoring here, Jordan was the better palyer(more versaitile) and leader. MJ scored 10 points in 842 consecutive games. Wilt had the most consecutive of 20, 30, 40, and average 50.4 points in a season.

Most Points - Game
WILT - 100
MJ - 69 ot

Most Points - Season
WILT - 4,029
MJ - 3,041

Most 50+ Point Games
WILT - 118
MJ - 30

Most 40+ Point Games
WILT - 271
MJ- 172

Highest PPG - Career
WILT - 30.1
MJ - 30.1

Highest PPG - Season
WILT - 50.4
MJ - 37.1

FG% - Career
WILT - 54%
MJ- 50%

Highest FG%- Season
WILT - 73%

WIlt had played in an era where the defender could grab you, hold you, kick you, hit you and still not be called for a foul!

__________________________________

Wilt Chamberlain's "SCORING" records:

1) Most points in a game> 100

2) Games scoring over 70 points> 6

3) Games scoring over 50 points> 119 ( Jordan is 2nd with 30)

4) Most cosecutive games with 50 + points > 7

5) Most consecutive games with 40+ points> 14

6) Most cosecutive games with 30+ points> 65

7) Most consecutive games with 20+ points> 126

8) Most games with 40+ points> 271

9) Most seasons leading league in fg% > 9

10) Highest fg% in one season > .727%

11) Most consecutive fg's made > 35

12) Highest scoring average in one season> 50.4 ppg....Jordan's best year was 37.1 ppg, a number Wilt bested 4 times!

13) Most points by a rookie> 58 ( TWICE)

14) Highest scoring average by a rookie> 37.6 ppg ( Wilt was "developing" lol)

15) Most fg in a game without a miss> 18


Wilt also is tied with Jordan for most consecutive scoring titles with 7. The only reason that Wilt stopped winning scoring titles is because his coach asked him to sacrifice his scoring and pass more. Wilt responded by leading the league in assists, something Jordan NEVER came close to doing, and he was a GUARD!.

If Wilt was as selfish as Jordan, there's no telling how many more points he would have scored. And we won't even go into the fact that he was also the greatest rebounder in history, because your question was about SCORING.

The simple fact is that when Wilt wanted to score, there was no one that could even think about stopping him, not even the league, who made several rule changes meant to help stop him.

And you could argue that Wilt was taller than everyone else, , but that's not the case. And even if it was, Wilt had 3 inches on Russell. Yao Ming has almost 6 inches on Shaq. You don't see him scoring 50 points or grabbing 30 rebounds against him, do you?

#2 LA Forever

LA Forever

    All-Star

  • 6,790 posts
  • Joined: Dec 13, 2008
  • Location:Western Conference

Posted February 21, 2009 - 07:43 PM

MJ could score from anywhere from the floor, anywhere.

Wilt just dominated the paint and overpowered and towered his defenders.

I'd give the nod to Jordan, and I'm not even a fan of his at all.

#3 Grandpa Herman

Grandpa Herman

    Guru

  • 3,756 posts
  • Joined: Aug 10, 2008
  • Location:The Holy Moly Donut Shop
  • Fav. Laker:Lamar Odom

Posted February 21, 2009 - 07:46 PM

Jordan by far. He had to deal with more defenses and compete against more athletic players.

Wilt overpowered just about everyone he played.

If you play an 8th grader against preschoolers who do you expect to win?
Basketball Reasons...

#4 last stand 2.0

last stand 2.0

    Legend

  • 19,102 posts
  • Joined: Jul 29, 2008
  • Location:LA

Posted February 21, 2009 - 08:30 PM

considering wilt could neither shoot a free throw or a midrange jumper

MJ by a mile

its the same reason i would say kobe and lebron both are better scorers than wilt

Edited by last stand 2.0, February 21, 2009 - 08:30 PM.

Posted Image

#5 Louizzle

Louizzle

    L.A. All Day

  • 945 posts
  • Joined: Aug 11, 2008
  • Location:Los Angeles
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe Bryant & Derek Fisher

Posted February 21, 2009 - 08:33 PM

Jordan, hands down. I don't even need to elaborate, we all know what he was capable of offensively.

Wilt dominated when there were rarely any other 7'0 guys in the league and he basically just got dunks and layups. And when you could get stopped by a 6'9-6'10 Bill Russell, that means he wasn't completely unstoppable.

Made By Vaporize

#6 pointguard11

pointguard11

    Starter

  • 4,949 posts
  • Joined: Jan 04, 2009

Posted February 21, 2009 - 08:53 PM

I love Jordan and I would start my team with Jordan over Wilt but numbers don't lie. Wilt is the best scorer without a doubt. By scorer means one who scores points not the one who looks the prettiest in doing so.
"The way Steve is as a teammate, the way he sets the tone, the way the team kind of takes on his persona. As a coach, that's the best thing in the world. It's easy to coach. He's taking care of the chemistry. You just coach."

Mike D'Antoni

#7 Shade

Shade

    Dunk like Machine! Bynum loves DESTROY!!

  • 538 posts
  • Joined: Feb 08, 2009
  • Location:Oakland, CA.
  • Fan Since:FOREEEVERRR!!
  • Fav. Laker:Bynum, KB, Sasha and everyone!

Posted February 21, 2009 - 09:03 PM

MJ hands down. Wilt dominated the paint which is the toughest place on the court but, we all saw MJ and the meaning of dominance that he brings when he steps on the court

/\
Vap is amazing

Drummer
Saxophonist
Guitarist

#8 pointguard11

pointguard11

    Starter

  • 4,949 posts
  • Joined: Jan 04, 2009

Posted February 21, 2009 - 09:06 PM

Wilt's problem in this thread. He was never seen live by anyone. :blink:
"The way Steve is as a teammate, the way he sets the tone, the way the team kind of takes on his persona. As a coach, that's the best thing in the world. It's easy to coach. He's taking care of the chemistry. You just coach."

Mike D'Antoni

#9 lyk13

lyk13

    BACK 2 BACK NBA CHAMPIONS

  • 4,722 posts
  • Joined: Jul 25, 2008
  • Location:Singapore
  • Fan Since:1999 (But reminiscent all the way back till 1960s, even 1948)
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe Bryant & Wilt Chamberlain

Posted February 21, 2009 - 09:26 PM

Wilt purely dominates the paint, and that's where his points come from mainly. Plus, because it's closer to the basket, Wilt is able to put up the numbers more at ease as opposed to MJ. And..Wilt's the stilt back then, with no one less Bill Russel able to technically challenge him, he gets the shots easier....

I dun wanna compare them both, cos both of them score from different territories...kinda. =/




#10 last stand 2.0

last stand 2.0

    Legend

  • 19,102 posts
  • Joined: Jul 29, 2008
  • Location:LA

Posted February 21, 2009 - 09:34 PM

send shaq, tim duncan, howard, robinson, hakeem "the dream", patrick ewing, hell even bynum all back to wilts era and i guarantee wilt has a much tougher time putting up the numbers he did

now send any player back to jordans time and he produces the same

thats the difference
Posted Image

#11 xplayforrealx

xplayforrealx

    Rookie

  • 350 posts
  • Joined: Nov 23, 2008
  • Fan Since:2002
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe Bryant and Sasha Vujacic

Posted February 21, 2009 - 09:54 PM

22 rebounds a game due to a no 3 second violation back then.
Mike Breen: Walton can tip it. Bryant with the save.
Hubie Brown: Oh you gotta get a shot here
Mike Breen: Final Seconds.. Bryant for the win, BANG!

Your signature violates forum guidelines.

#12 Grandpa Herman

Grandpa Herman

    Guru

  • 3,756 posts
  • Joined: Aug 10, 2008
  • Location:The Holy Moly Donut Shop
  • Fav. Laker:Lamar Odom

Posted February 21, 2009 - 10:06 PM

22 rebounds a game due to a no 3 second violation back then.

I think the 3 second rule was made because of Mikan's dominance. And of course he played long before Wilt.
Basketball Reasons...

#13 offtheheezy

offtheheezy

    Off The Bench

  • 2,592 posts
  • Joined: Aug 20, 2008
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe, Fish

Posted February 21, 2009 - 10:11 PM

lol wilt was playing with a bunch of 6 ft white guys.. compared to his beastly 7 ft ownage

Posted Image


When he's asked why Kobe doesn't tweet, @thugraider37 said he offers this reply: "Does God tweet?"

#14 pointguard11

pointguard11

    Starter

  • 4,949 posts
  • Joined: Jan 04, 2009

Posted February 21, 2009 - 10:17 PM

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
"The way Steve is as a teammate, the way he sets the tone, the way the team kind of takes on his persona. As a coach, that's the best thing in the world. It's easy to coach. He's taking care of the chemistry. You just coach."

Mike D'Antoni

#15 pointguard11

pointguard11

    Starter

  • 4,949 posts
  • Joined: Jan 04, 2009

Posted February 21, 2009 - 10:23 PM

Wilt did play against some of the games greatest centers of all time. Guys like Wilt and Kareem played againts Bill Russel, Walt Bellamy, Dave Cowens, Willis Reed, Bill Walton, Bob Lanier, Zelmo Beaty, Nate Thurmond, etc...
"The way Steve is as a teammate, the way he sets the tone, the way the team kind of takes on his persona. As a coach, that's the best thing in the world. It's easy to coach. He's taking care of the chemistry. You just coach."

Mike D'Antoni

#16 ファイナルファンタジ

ファイナルファンタジ

    Pump Up The Fruit

  • 12,134 posts
  • Joined: Jul 25, 2008
  • Location:San Daygo
  • Name:Jerry
  • Fan Since:Forever
  • Fav. Laker:コービーブライアント

Posted February 21, 2009 - 10:58 PM

Wilt was more dominant in the paint and closer toward the basket. I mean, Jordan can score from everywhere so basically he has more in his arsenal.

Posted Image
Team Farmar
United we stand. Divided we fall.


#17 xplayforrealx

xplayforrealx

    Rookie

  • 350 posts
  • Joined: Nov 23, 2008
  • Fan Since:2002
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe Bryant and Sasha Vujacic

Posted February 22, 2009 - 12:32 AM

I think the 3 second rule was made because of Mikan's dominance. And of course he played long before Wilt.

No, actually there wasnt a 3 second violation so wilt could just easily stand in the paint and get rebounds.
Mike Breen: Walton can tip it. Bryant with the save.
Hubie Brown: Oh you gotta get a shot here
Mike Breen: Final Seconds.. Bryant for the win, BANG!

Your signature violates forum guidelines.

#18 Real Deal

Real Deal

    Legend

  • 14,866 posts
  • Joined: Jun 29, 2008
  • Location:Kansas
  • Name:Brandon
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe

Posted February 22, 2009 - 12:46 AM

Wilt was playing in a rec league, to be honest. Ten teams or so, shorter and slimmer players, etc.

Do you guys know who was defending Wilt in that 100-point game? It was a 6'9" power forward, and when he fouled out, his backup was a 6'7" forward.

#19 Shade

Shade

    Dunk like Machine! Bynum loves DESTROY!!

  • 538 posts
  • Joined: Feb 08, 2009
  • Location:Oakland, CA.
  • Fan Since:FOREEEVERRR!!
  • Fav. Laker:Bynum, KB, Sasha and everyone!

Posted February 22, 2009 - 01:09 AM

Wilt and Jordan=Great players anyway :D

/\
Vap is amazing

Drummer
Saxophonist
Guitarist

#20 leor_77

leor_77

    Superstar

  • 8,339 posts
  • Joined: Nov 27, 2008

Posted February 22, 2009 - 02:13 PM

Its like comparing apples and oranges...or apples and watermelons lol - Wilt was actually a really nice guy. Went to my gym as a matter of fact, Mid Valley Athletic Club in Reseda. I think it's safe to say Jordan, though, because you don't know how Wilt would do in modern basketball.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users