Jump to content




Photo

3 Reasons why the Lakers won't win the NBA Championship in 2009


  • Please log in to reply
32 replies to this topic

#1 tom

tom

    Rookie

  • Pip
  • 4 posts
  • Joined: Dec 13, 2008
  • Fan Since:Never
  • Fav. Laker:Magic Johnson

Posted February 17, 2009 - 05:19 PM

1) The Boston Celtics will repeat--I believe they still have one great run left in them. I know I know, the Lakers swept them in the regular season, with the 2nd game being in Boston, without Bynum. Give the team tremendous credit for that. But: 1) The Lakers needed that win more than Boston, and 2) Anyone see the horrible shooting percentage Kobe continues to shoot against Beantown? Do you really think the Lakers can win a 7 game series against that Boston D? If Bynum comes back that certainly gives the Lakeshow a chance, but my money is still on the Celtics to win one more. I think the Celtic D would wear the Lakers down in a 7 game series.
2) The Lakers D still isn't good enough to win it all--this makes them a GREAT regular season team (like the Kings & Suns of years past), but still not quite good enough to win in the finals when you need not just great offense--you need shutdown defense. The reason they beat Boston & Cleveland is not because of their D--it is because of their great offense. In a 7 game series the D usually wins, while the O often wins in the regular season before the defensive intensity is taken up to the next level.
3) Bynum's injury means he will most like come back out of sync--and the playoffs is no time to find your sea legs.

Here is a shout out to Ken (my favorite Laker fan who wears his passion on his sleeve) and fellow former 570 Lakers forum posters! Where is the Dude?? I am sure he could write a 10 page response attacking my above post with a statistical analysis tearing it to shreds...

#2 MDI

MDI

    Jesus Fan

  • 35,948 posts
  • Joined: Jul 24, 2008
  • Location:Irvine
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe Bryant

Posted February 17, 2009 - 05:22 PM

In my opinion I think it would be a huge upset for the Lakers to win the big game on Christmas day. The Celtics look as good as they did last year, and the Lakers have not been playing well of late--especially on the defensive end. The only advantage they have is the game is at home, but the Celtics have already proven over and over the last 2 years that they can beat the Lakers anywhere...it will be a fun game to watch and should get huge ratings! I think most fans--however fanatic would admit that the Celtics are the better team right now...


remember what you said on christmas day?

http://lakernation.c...mp;#entry153102

9u6kvo.png

 

Props to sidthekid871


#3 androsays

androsays

    representing infinity with presidencies

  • 4,784 posts
  • Joined: Dec 20, 2008
  • Location:city of angels
  • Name:andro
  • Fan Since:90s
  • Fav. Laker:kobe

Posted February 17, 2009 - 05:31 PM

1 reason why the lakers will win:

boston's bench just doesn't match up.

eddie house is quasi-legit, he was on a hot streak the last time we played them, but you can't count on shooters. leon powe hustles, but who cares.

other than that... who does that team have past the starting 5?



that + some faith in the lakers.

Edited by androsays, February 17, 2009 - 05:32 PM.


2div

#4 pound4pound

pound4pound

    High Life

  • 1,478 posts
  • Joined: Jul 28, 2008
  • Fav. Laker:Magic Johnson

Posted February 17, 2009 - 05:31 PM

1) The Boston Celtics will repeat--I believe they still have one great run left in them. I know I know, the Lakers swept them in the regular season, with the 2nd game being in Boston, without Bynum. Give the team tremendous credit for that. But: 1) The Lakers needed that win more than Boston, and 2) Anyone see the horrible shooting percentage Kobe continues to shoot against Beantown? Do you really think the Lakers can win a 7 game series against that Boston D? If Bynum comes back that certainly gives the Lakeshow a chance, but my money is still on the Celtics to win one more. I think the Celtic D would wear the Lakers down in a 7 game series.
2) The Lakers D still isn't good enough to win it all--this makes them a GREAT regular season team (like the Kings & Suns of years past), but still not quite good enough to win in the finals when you need not just great offense--you need shutdown defense. The reason they beat Boston & Cleveland is not because of their D--it is because of their great offense. In a 7 game series the D usually wins, while the O often wins in the regular season before the defensive intensity is taken up to the next level.
3) Bynum's injury means he will most like come back out of sync--and the playoffs is no time to find your sea legs.

Here is a shout out to Ken (my favorite Laker fan who wears his passion on his sleeve) and fellow former 570 Lakers forum posters! Where is the Dude?? I am sure he could write a 10 page response attacking my above post with a statistical analysis tearing it to shreds...







Posted Image
QUOTE ("Jerry Buss")
One of the biggest reasons I bought the Lakers was to beat the Celtics …..you just got it into your soul that you couldn't stand the Celtics anymore

#5 West Coast

West Coast

    LN Senior Editor

  • 21,420 posts
  • Joined: Jul 31, 2008
  • Location:California
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe Bryant

Posted February 17, 2009 - 05:38 PM

remember what you said on christmas day?

http://lakernation.c...mp;#entry153102


Yo Tom, you failed on Christmas. You're gonna fail again in June.

#6 udechukwu

udechukwu

    KB24: Silencing opposing crowds for over a decade

  • 128 posts
  • Joined: Jan 28, 2009
  • Location:Irvine, CA
  • Name:Michael
  • Fan Since:birth 1990
  • Fav. Laker:24

Posted February 17, 2009 - 05:39 PM

are you even laker fan? those are excuses celtics fans make, celtics can deny it all they want to, but they wanted to beat the lakers just as bad as the lakers wanted to beat them. if you say the celtics have proved they could be the lakers anywhere, well they proved that LAST YEAR... this year the lakers have proved they can beat the celtics anywhere even without bynnum. Although we are back to where we were without bynum last year, this team is much better than it was last year starters and bench players included.


Where will amazing happen this year ?..... LA!!!
2009 NBA Champions
A Prophecy fulfilled.

#7 androsays

androsays

    representing infinity with presidencies

  • 4,784 posts
  • Joined: Dec 20, 2008
  • Location:city of angels
  • Name:andro
  • Fan Since:90s
  • Fav. Laker:kobe

Posted February 17, 2009 - 05:40 PM

are you even laker fan?


i don't think he is, his "fan since" section says never.




i say let haters hate.

2div

#8 tom

tom

    Rookie

  • Pip
  • 4 posts
  • Joined: Dec 13, 2008
  • Fan Since:Never
  • Fav. Laker:Magic Johnson

Posted February 17, 2009 - 05:42 PM

remember what you said on christmas day?

http://lakernation.c...mp;#entry153102


Of course I remember--I said the Celts would beat the Lakers on Christmas day. Nobody gets predictions right all the time...but 14 months ago I said the Celts would win the Championship--so I got that one right. Looking at the league, they are still the team to beat. To answer the question about the bench--The Celtic bench performed superbly against the Lakers on Christmas day, so I don't believe that will be the difference. The difference will be on the defensive end. Also, how often does KG foul out of games--it happened on Christmas day--it will not happen again in the finals....
Nope not a fan--but please don't call non Laker fans haters--it is petty & childish. I give the Lakers their due--I just don't root for them. I do however love the NBA and discussing the games--and since I live in L.A. I enjoy watching and discussing the Lakers...

Edited by tom, February 17, 2009 - 05:44 PM.


#9 tru'tildeath

tru'tildeath

    Rookie

  • 768 posts
  • Joined: Aug 01, 2008
  • Location:vancouver, bc
  • Fav. Laker:chick hearn

Posted February 17, 2009 - 05:48 PM

get those games right

#10 ab4sure

ab4sure

    All-Star

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,422 posts
  • Joined: Dec 15, 2008

Posted February 17, 2009 - 05:48 PM

If they were to meet in the finals again the chances of the lakers winning 55% Boston 45%. Thinking with my head and not my heart. Though the lakers have beaten the celts twice we are talking about the PO and Finals. Lets not fall into the trap that the Lakers would be the celts with ease. Have to respect the Champs!!! You can still Hate Them :D
[color="#DDA0DD"]•"Good teams become great ones when the members trust each other enough to surrender the Me for the We."

•"The ideal way to win a championship is step by step."

PHIL JACKSON
[/color][color="#DDA0DD"][/color]

#11 West Coast

West Coast

    LN Senior Editor

  • 21,420 posts
  • Joined: Jul 31, 2008
  • Location:California
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe Bryant

Posted February 17, 2009 - 05:58 PM

Of course I remember--I said the Celts would beat the Lakers on Christmas day. Nobody gets predictions right all the time...but 14 months ago I said the Celts would win the Championship--so I got that one right. Looking at the league, they are still the team to beat. To answer the question about the bench--The Celtic bench performed superbly against the Lakers on Christmas day, so I don't believe that will be the difference. The difference will be on the defensive end. Also, how often does KG foul out of games--it happened on Christmas day--it will not happen again in the finals....
Nope not a fan--but please don't call non Laker fans haters--it is petty & childish. I give the Lakers their due--I just don't root for them. I do however love the NBA and discussing the games--and since I live in L.A. I enjoy watching and discussing the Lakers...


First of all, KG fouled out on Feb. 5th in Boston.

Second of all, everyone can make predictions and HOPE they get them right.

This is a new Lakers squad. More experienced, more motivated. The Celtics lost a big piece in James Posey. That was the guy that could slow Kobe down. Tony Allen cant stop him, Eddie House sure as hell can't stop him. Pierce does a nice job but at the other end, Kobe shuts Pierce down as well.

Defense does win Championships. The Lakers, with Bynum, are a very good defensive team. Even if he gets back when the playoffs start, we don't need him to put up 20/10. He is our defensive anchor in the middle, which we showed on Christmas day when we held the Celtics to 83 points. Our offense will put up points, even on a "great" defense like the Celtics, Feb. 5th, we scored 110 including overtime.

Nothing shows me that the Celtics can beat us this year. NOTHING. Our bench is superior, our starting lineup is superior, our coach is superior. Everything Lakers >>> Celtics.


#12 Tobias Fünke

Tobias Fünke

    Ron Ron

  • 6,794 posts
  • Joined: Jul 24, 2008
  • Location:South Central Los Angeles.

Posted February 17, 2009 - 06:00 PM

I do agree Boston is still the team to beat until they are eliminated. The defending champs will always be the team to beat until they are gone.
<img src="http://i38.tinypic.c...com/xgmemf.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />

#13 LA Forever

LA Forever

    All-Star

  • 6,790 posts
  • Joined: Dec 13, 2008
  • Location:Western Conference

Posted February 17, 2009 - 06:17 PM

Boston is the team to beat by default, but that doesn't mean they will win it all again. LA has a huge chip on it's shoulder because of last year's Finals. Kobe has had the taste of 2 straight Finals defeats, and I'm sure Gasol didn't enjoy losing both the Finals AND Olympics. Both of them, along with the rest of the team, are very motivated and are on a path to win it all.

LA's defense, as sporadic as it is, shows up when it's time to show up. As much as I'd like them to exert the type of defense they play against the likes of Boston and Cleveland, they just don't do it on a regular basis. But remember last year's playoffs, they displayed great defense until we faced Boston. Mostly that was just intimidation and having the "soft" label that we were tagged with. This year is different. Boston pushed, we pushed back harder.

3 Reasons why the Celtics Won't win the NBA Championship in 2009:

1) Los Angeles
2) Cleveland
3) Boston's own bench

Teams aren't as afraid or intimidated by Boston as much as last season, especially the East. How are you so sure they'll even make the Finals? Cleveland and Orlando will be tough competition for them for sure. I can tell you for a damn fact that Atlanta wants another shot at Boston. The only problem I see for LA in the West is San Antonio, as always, but I don't think we'll have too much problems with them.

Our team.
Our year.
Our time.
Our title.

#14 UKUGA

UKUGA

    All-Star

  • 5,972 posts
  • Joined: Jul 29, 2008
  • Location:28269
  • Name:UKUGA
  • Fan Since:1981
  • Fav. Laker:Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Posted February 17, 2009 - 06:21 PM

With Bynum, I think we dominate the Celtics inside.

Last year, if Game 2 had not been turned into the "Leon Powe Invitational", we may well win the series.

We will not let Powe, Baby and Perkins to dominate us this year. It will not happen.

Those guys are marginal players who mainly benefited from the fact that our team played too scared last year. We are tougher on the interior this season, if for no other reason than experience.


Also, and this is strange but true, Odom has come up big in both games against the Celtics this year, after disappearing in the Finals last year.
While I have no confidence that Lamar won't choke away a game or two in the Finals, the confidence he has gained in the regular season will hopefully translate into one or two clutch performances from him.


If Lamar sucks, though, then we are very much in trouble, and will truly have to pound the ball inside, and not allow our bigs to get intimidated.

Remember, PJ Brown is gone.

www.twitter.com/ukuga


#15 Grandpa Herman

Grandpa Herman

    Guru

  • 3,756 posts
  • Joined: Aug 10, 2008
  • Location:The Holy Moly Donut Shop
  • Fav. Laker:Lamar Odom

Posted February 17, 2009 - 07:06 PM

http://lakernation.c...showtopic=10478
Basketball Reasons...

#16 Real Deal

Real Deal

    Legend

  • 14,874 posts
  • Joined: Jun 29, 2008
  • Location:Kansas
  • Name:Brandon
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe

Posted February 17, 2009 - 07:06 PM

Non-Lakers fans are welcome here as well. If you decide to attack them, remember that they are a member just as you are, and you'll be warned for it.

#17 Machinehead

Machinehead

    BringBackSasha

  • 6,671 posts
  • Joined: Jul 27, 2008
  • Location:Valencia, CA
  • Name:Daniel
  • Fan Since:Radmanovic's long hair days.
  • Fav. Laker:Sasha Vujacic

Posted February 17, 2009 - 07:14 PM

With Bynum, I think we dominate the Celtics inside.

Last year, if Game 2 had not been turned into the "Leon Powe Invitational", we may well win the series.

We will not let Powe, Baby and Perkins to dominate us this year. It will not happen.

Those guys are marginal players who mainly benefited from the fact that our team played too scared last year. We are tougher on the interior this season, if for no other reason than experience.


Also, and this is strange but true, Odom has come up big in both games against the Celtics this year, after disappearing in the Finals last year.
While I have no confidence that Lamar won't choke away a game or two in the Finals, the confidence he has gained in the regular season will hopefully translate into one or two clutch performances from him.


If Lamar sucks, though, then we are very much in trouble, and will truly have to pound the ball inside, and not allow our bigs to get intimidated.

Remember, PJ Brown is gone.


Ya, that game still pisses me off more than any other game. Especially the fact that Sasha got fouled when he shot the 3 pointer to tie the game at the end.

Honestly, I look at the other thread about "who is a threat to L.A." and I can't choose any one of those teams. Celtics just dont scare me one bit. Their bench is no match to ours. When we're healthy, our starters are better than theirs.

I want Boston in the Finals 100%.
Posted Image

#18 offtheheezy

offtheheezy

    Off The Bench

  • 2,592 posts
  • Joined: Aug 20, 2008
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe, Fish

Posted February 17, 2009 - 07:23 PM

3 reasons why the lakers will win the nba championship in 2009 against the celts. =)

1. kobe bryant
2. better bench
3. better chemistry

.. i think i could list a few more

Posted Image


When he's asked why Kobe doesn't tweet, @thugraider37 said he offers this reply: "Does God tweet?"

#19 MDI

MDI

    Jesus Fan

  • 35,948 posts
  • Joined: Jul 24, 2008
  • Location:Irvine
  • Fav. Laker:Kobe Bryant

Posted February 17, 2009 - 07:29 PM

they LOST Posey and Brown which is HUGE...two phenomenal role players. You can't trust Big Baby in cleaning the glass and Eddie House on ball handling duties. They better hope Bill Walker, Gabe Pruitt and Patrick O Bryant start playing well otherwise their toast

9u6kvo.png

 

Props to sidthekid871


#20 ab4sure

ab4sure

    All-Star

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,422 posts
  • Joined: Dec 15, 2008

Posted February 17, 2009 - 07:37 PM

Yeah Tom is a sensible nonlaker fan. He has a point to his argument. We should all respect that. I was just on another laker site where a difference of opinion was not allowed and the group mentality complained about someone and that person got booted for that. Lets not have a group mentality which doesn't look at a person's point view. :nah: We are better than that. Lets be open to others viewpoint despite our differences. Battle the argument not the person. :yes:
[color="#DDA0DD"]•"Good teams become great ones when the members trust each other enough to surrender the Me for the We."

•"The ideal way to win a championship is step by step."

PHIL JACKSON
[/color][color="#DDA0DD"][/color]




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users