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Poll: Who Is The Greatest One/Two Punch In The History Of The NBA? (63 member(s) have cast votes)

WHICH DUO

  1. Shaq and Kobe (32 votes [50.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.79%

  2. Jordan and Pippen (11 votes [17.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.46%

  3. Magic and Kareem (15 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

  4. Stockton and Malone (2 votes [3.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.17%

  5. Dr. J and M. Malone (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Twin Towers (Duncan and Robinson) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. OTHER (3 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

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#21 Tobias Fünke

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 01:35 PM

Shaq and Kobe. And it isn't even close.
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Posted February 09, 2009 - 01:42 PM

I don't think Kobe and Shaq's best team would've defeated Jordan and Pippen's best, and if you think Pippen didn't do anything, you should realize that he's probably one of the best (if not the best) defensive small forwards in NBA history.

Magic and Kareem were incredible, no doubt...but Jordan is the greatest to ever play the game, and Kareem wasn't the player he was with the Bucks (after one or two seasons with Magic, Kareem's scoring and rebounding was down by quite a bit compared to his 30/16 averages with the Bucks).



Please tell me.

Who on those Bulls teams guards Shaq?


Rodman was a pest but when it gets right down to it, Shaq in his prime was unguardable. And it doesn't matter how good MJ and Pip were, they weren't going to stop Shaq and Kobe.

#23 Tobias Fünke

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 01:52 PM

NO ONE would stop Shaq in his prime. It's simply impossible.
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Posted February 09, 2009 - 01:54 PM

Please tell me.

Who on those Bulls teams guards Shaq?


Rodman was a pest but when it gets right down to it, Shaq in his prime was unguardable. And it doesn't matter how good MJ and Pip were, they weren't going to stop Shaq and Kobe.

Shaq wouldn't be in the game very long, with Jordan and Pippen slashing to the rim and fouling him out. That's mainly how Chicago took care of their bigger opponents.

And Shaq wasn't far out of his prime when he was man-handled on the glass by Ben Wallace. O'Neal would have to climb all over Rodman's back to pull down boards, which racks up another couple of fouls.

He would get his 30, I'm sure, but he's not going to drop 50 on Chicago. As dominant as Shaq was, he only had two 50's in his career with the Lakers.

Now, if we're talking about the 2005-06 or later Kobe Bryant, with a prime Shaq, then I'm taking that duo...but Kobe wasn't as bad ass to keep up with a prime Jordan, not in that dynasty (and quite frankly, nobody was).

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 02:00 PM

NO ONE would stop Shaq in his prime. It's simply impossible.

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Throughout our dynasty, and a year beyond, Duncan did pretty damn good against him.

Let's not make Shaq out to be the greatest center of all-time. Hakeem schooled him in the mid-90's, and if Shaq's age were to be the excuse for that, why was he already averaging 30 PPG? And when Duncan was playing extremely well against Shaq, he was only in his third or fourth season.

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 02:03 PM

Shaq wouldn't be in the game very long, with Jordan and Pippen slashing to the rim and fouling him out. That's mainly how Chicago took care of their bigger opponents.

And Shaq wasn't far out of his prime when he was man-handled on the glass by Ben Wallace. O'Neal would have to climb all over Rodman's back to pull down boards, which racks up another couple of fouls.

He would get his 30, I'm sure, but he's not going to drop 50 on Chicago. As dominant as Shaq was, he only had two 50's in his career with the Lakers.

Now, if we're talking about the 2005-06 or later Kobe Bryant, with a prime Shaq, then I'm taking that duo...but Kobe wasn't as bad [expletive] to keep up with a prime Jordan, not in that dynasty (and quite frankly, nobody was).





damn Real...you just portrayed shaq as chris mihm
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#27 Tobias Fünke

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 02:06 PM

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Throughout our dynasty, and a year beyond, Duncan did pretty damn good against him.

Let's not make Shaq out to be the greatest center of all-time. Hakeem schooled him in the mid-90's, and if Shaq's age were to be the excuse for that, why was he already averaging 30 PPG? And when Duncan was playing extremely well against Shaq, he was only in his third or fourth season.


And Duncan was the best PF of all time. I would take prime Shaq over anyone. In a half-court game(which is what the playoffs turn into 90% of the time), there is not one players I would take over Shaq.
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Posted February 09, 2009 - 02:14 PM

damn Real...you just portrayed shaq as chris mihm

He split responsibilities in our dynasty with Kobe and Phil (and role players, as a whole). He's twenty Chris Mihms.

A long time ago, I hated Shaq, and even through our dynasty, I didn't like him. I still supported him, but he was a dumbass and played basketball like a football player (the wrong way).

I will say he is a top center of all-time, but I'm not going to sit here and say that he was unstoppable. He's lucky that Hakeem wasn't ten years younger, because if that was the case, and Hakeem had a superstar guard as a teammate, Shaq may not have had his three rings.

I'm being a realistic Lakers fan. The Kobe/Shaq duo was not invincible. We almost lost to the Kings and needed a Horry three to bail us out. The Blazers did very well against us also. Neither of those teams had a dominant center in his prime.

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 02:23 PM

Magic and Kareem.

Showtime Lakers >>>> Any Shaq and Kobe team.

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 02:26 PM

He split responsibilities in our dynasty with Kobe and Phil (and role players, as a whole). He's twenty Chris Mihms.

A long time ago, I hated Shaq, and even through our dynasty, I didn't like him. I still supported him, but he was a dumbass and played basketball like a football player (the wrong way).

I will say he is a top center of all-time, but I'm not going to sit here and say that he was unstoppable. He's lucky that Hakeem wasn't ten years younger, because if that was the case, and Hakeem had a superstar guard as a teammate, Shaq may not have had his three rings.

I'm being a realistic Lakers fan. The Kobe/Shaq duo was not invincible. We almost lost to the Kings and needed a Horry three to bail us out. The Blazers did very well against us also. Neither of those teams had a dominant center in his prime.





you make valid points...im just commenting on your original quote where you make it seem like shaq would rack up 4 quick fouls just by standing there against the bulls

Edited by pound4pound, February 09, 2009 - 02:27 PM.

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 02:40 PM

Shaquille O'Neal in his prime was a lot more dominant than Real Deal gives him credit for. Just look at his numbers alone, not to mention that he took away the entire lane defensively from other teams. Think Deion Sanders taking away an entire half of a football field. Shaq had his flaws (free throw shooting and screen and roll defending mainly), but Real Deal is selling him short. Oh, and I'm not Shaq's biggest fan either.

Because of Shaq's dominance, he took away from Kobe's greatness. For those three (3) years, I can guarantee you that most NBA people would say that they were right up there with the greatest 1-2 punches ever.

Even though I'm not a Bulls fan, my vote had to go to MJ and Scottie. 6 rings. Kareem and Magic were right with them, but as Real Deal points out, Magic had many other options to distribute the ball to. It's too bad their peaks didn't criss-cross. For that matter, it's too bad that Shaq's and Kobe's didn't either. As great as Kobe was back then, he's a more polished player now. The vote has to go to 6 rings. Magic/Kareem had 5 (with the Celtics in their way for more), but 6 is greater than 5.

Edited by Ken #1 Beloved, February 09, 2009 - 02:46 PM.


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Posted February 09, 2009 - 02:52 PM

Shaq/Kobe over Jordan/Pippen for me. They provided everything you needed in a duo. A dominant inside game, with the ability to score, pass, and defend. Then you had the shooting guard who could hurt you from out side, drive to the basket, pass it off, defend the perimeter.

What else could you ask for in a duo?



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Posted February 09, 2009 - 02:56 PM

What else could you ask for in a duo?

The greatest player ever, paired with quite possibly the greatest defensive small forward ever, winning six rings in eight seasons without a true star center.

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 03:06 PM

The greatest player ever, paired with quite possibly the greatest defensive small forward ever....

I didn't know that Shaq was a small forward. :rolleyes:

By the way, is there any reason why Tim Duncan and Tony Parker aren't on this list (as opposed to Duncan and the Admiral)?

Edited by Ken #1 Beloved, February 09, 2009 - 03:17 PM.


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Posted February 09, 2009 - 03:54 PM

I didn't know that Shaq was a small forward. :rolleyes:

By the way, is there any reason why Tim Duncan and Tony Parker aren't on this list (as opposed to Duncan and the Admiral)?

When did I say that Shaq was a small forward?

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 04:01 PM

well lets see one produced 3 in a row once

another produced 3 in a row twice

6>3

simple math

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 04:07 PM

It has to be Jordan and Pippen but Kobe and Shaq right behind them. You cant deny that they werent up there. I think that they are the best because they won 6 championships and those two were both great great players.

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 04:10 PM

When did I say that Shaq was a small forward?

You said the greatest player ever was paired with a small forward. Maybe you were mistaken. :)

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 04:14 PM

Kobe and Shaq easily.

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Posted February 09, 2009 - 04:25 PM

Gotta go with Jordan and Pippen followed by Kareem and Magic.
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