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#21 GCMD

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Posted January 23, 2009 - 12:55 PM

Watch Bynum in transition. He's still not at peak conditioning, stamina or endurance for the full 82+ season. He's a little sluggish and slow but once he gets up to speed, he can cover the distance pretty quickly. His defense suffers sometimes late in the game because he's fatigued, even when he doesn't realize it.

All of that is to be expected.

He's going to look good for stretches this year and suck butt for others. If Phil can manage and monitor his minutes effectively, we can get some more really good starts while coasting at the end.


Biggest improvement? Bynum 1-on-1 ten feet in is really, REALLY hard to guard.

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Posted January 23, 2009 - 01:05 PM

bynum has shown a potential that i don't think oden can touch and is on par with dwight

keep in mind dwight is about 2 years older than drew

dwight is easily 2 years ahead in conditioning and defense and rebounding but who is ahead on the offensive side of the ball

its a legitimate question

dwight is the guy while bynum has kobe and gasol

who really is ahead offensively IMO skill wise the only center who is better than drew offensively is yao other wise noone touches him unless you consider timmy a center then well there is no comparison
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Posted January 23, 2009 - 01:26 PM

Pau, Timmy, Shaq, Yao. Just off the top of my head.

When Aldridge slides down to the 5, he's still more skilled.



Bynum has 1 tool that you can't teach or learn...length.

That's why he is still so poor at getting good post position and boxing out and yet can gobble up double-digit rebounds.

Once he puts it all together, he's going to be a nightmare to guard. Right now, he's 30% talent, 70% natural gifts.

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Posted January 23, 2009 - 01:28 PM

Consistency is key.


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Posted January 23, 2009 - 01:29 PM

While impressive to rack up 42 points at the NBA level as a 3rd option, I think you're getting ahead of yourself with saying he's offensively better than Dwight. He scored 42 against a very weak, injury-filled team. With Kaman and Camby there, I'm sure it would have been a different story. Dwight does it night in and night out on BOTH sides of the court. While Bynum had 42, you also have to look at the other end where some 3rd string bench player had a great night on offense against Bynum. I'm sure if Dwight put in less effort on defense, it would improve his scoring.

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Posted January 23, 2009 - 01:30 PM

Consistency is key.


Totally agree.... Let me add another sentence.

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Posted January 23, 2009 - 02:14 PM

Keep it up kid.










Would anyone else agree that the Lakers love to sandbag? Example hopefully being LO destroying teams come playoff time?(he better :D)
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Posted January 23, 2009 - 02:34 PM

bynum is showing up
he needs to keep it up

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Posted January 23, 2009 - 03:07 PM

While impressive to rack up 42 points at the NBA level as a 3rd option, I think you're getting ahead of yourself with saying he's offensively better than Dwight. He scored 42 against a very weak, injury-filled team. With Kaman and Camby there, I'm sure it would have been a different story. Dwight does it night in and night out on BOTH sides of the court. While Bynum had 42, you also have to look at the other end where some 3rd string bench player had a great night on offense against Bynum. I'm sure if Dwight put in less effort on defense, it would improve his scoring.



As for offensive skills, he IS ahead of DH...DH is an Amare clone, plain and simple. Lots of brawn, not much skill.


Bynum has advanced post moves in his arsenal and a soft touch on his shot.

Offensively, as far as SKILLS (not production), Bynum is light years ahead of DH...and that's NOT an overstatement.

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Posted January 23, 2009 - 03:14 PM

As for offensive skills, he IS ahead of DH...DH is an Amare clone, plain and simple. Lots of brawn, not much skill.


Bynum has advanced post moves in his arsenal and a soft touch on his shot.

Offensively, as far as SKILLS (not production), Bynum is light years ahead of DH...and that's NOT an overstatement.



i have to agree, bynum has a better offensive arsenal than dwight, shooting and footwork as well, but dwight is better at getting into position for rebounds ... hence the offensive rebounds, putbacks, and closer shot attempts
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Posted January 23, 2009 - 03:31 PM

DH made great strides this summer. Last year Bynum held his own with Howard in LA but not this year. Still Howard like someone mentioned has a lower ceiling and Bynum still has not mastered his body/skill fully as of yet. But the blueprint is there of a very good Center who should pass Howard in the long run. Howard played all of HS while Bynum's playing time was limited in High School and less playing time in the Pros. Its only a matter of time.
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Posted January 23, 2009 - 03:50 PM

Hopefully Drew can keep his consisting through the season and the playoffs.

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Posted January 23, 2009 - 04:14 PM

keep it up big fella..keep it up...
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Posted January 23, 2009 - 05:26 PM

As for offensive skills, he IS ahead of DH...DH is an Amare clone, plain and simple. Lots of brawn, not much skill.


Bynum has advanced post moves in his arsenal and a soft touch on his shot.

Offensively, as far as SKILLS (not production), Bynum is light years ahead of DH...and that's NOT an overstatement.

Amare is actually more skilled than Dwight and Bynum, the only thing is he isnt as strong or long, but that guy is probably the best offensive POWER Foward, so Dirk doesnt count. Amare has a jumper comparable to KG's or Gasol's.Plus he has a couple of go to post moves and counters,plus he is athletic so he can run the lane and get more dunks than Bynum but not more than Dwight, still I give Amare the offensive edge over most big men, the exception being Yao and Dirk...on par with Aldrige and Bosh is close to that level also
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Posted January 24, 2009 - 02:52 AM

Let's just get the count going: Consistency +2 Looking for +3.




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Posted January 24, 2009 - 03:24 AM

Amare is actually more skilled than Dwight and Bynum, the only thing is he isnt as strong or long, but that guy is probably the best offensive POWER Foward, so Dirk doesnt count. Amare has a jumper comparable to KG's or Gasol's.Plus he has a couple of go to post moves and counters,plus he is athletic so he can run the lane and get more dunks than Bynum but not more than Dwight, still I give Amare the offensive edge over most big men, the exception being Yao and Dirk...on par with Aldrige and Bosh is close to that level also



Joking right?

Amare that plays with Nash in PHO?

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Posted January 24, 2009 - 11:37 AM

He's not back just because he's scoring. The Bynum I remember from last year used to soar so high for rebounds that teams started sending multiple guys after the ball when it was just him there so he wouldn't get the rebound. His presence was actually being felt.

His presence can't just be felt scoring the ball. Teams won't actually FEAR us until he becomes intimidating on defense.
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Posted January 24, 2009 - 11:42 AM

Again, do this consistently against teams witha bona fide post presence and it'll be impressive. Its nice to get those games for confidence sake, but in the grandscheme of things its how he performs against other strong post players that will tell everyone how far he's come or where he is in his game.

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Posted January 24, 2009 - 01:28 PM

Not sold yet. The Clipper game was kind of a joke. I mean, DeAndre Jordan, Brian Skinner and Cheikh Samb? He should score 40 against those guys.

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Posted January 25, 2009 - 06:23 PM

Great game against San Antonio today!

4-10 looks bad, but I love the 7-8 free throws stat.

Alongside that, 15 points and 11 boards. Yeah, Bynum is back, fellas.

Also, Bynum is averaging 19.9 points per game in his last 10.




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