oh noes!HOOPSWORLD.COM: With Kobe Bryant reiterating his trade demand in person to Los Angeles Lakers’ owner Dr. Jerry Buss, the franchise has a serious decision to make: try and appease their superstar in what may be a futile pursuit . . . or move Bryant now on the Lakers’ terms.

For a Bryant trade to work, LA needs to re-establish leverage lost. With Bryant holding a no-trade clause and 15% trade kicker he has the ability to hamper any Laker negotiation.

For Dr. Buss to send Bryant to a team of Kobe’s choosing (specifically the Chicago Bulls), Bryant would then need to waive his veto power. Bryant would get his exit, but not have a say in who LA gets in return for him. This would give the Lakers some badly needed leverage in the negotiation.

If Bryant refuses then the Lakers would have to draw a hard line. No trade. Period.

Continue reading ‘Examining the Chicago Possibilities’

  • Kim

    Read the whole thing!!! it sounds pretty interessting what both teams can come up with!!!! BULLS VS. LAKERS FINALS 2007-2008!!!!!!!
    Lakers lineup (most talented in NBA:
    Farmar
    Gordon
    Luol
    Turiaf
    Bynum

    older players:
    Odom, Wallace, Kwarme, Vlade, mihm, wlaton

    Bulls lineup:
    Kirk
    Kobe
    Lewis
    Tyrus Thomas
    Sign and trade with PJ brown, Evans and number 9th pick for maybe MARCUS CAMBY!!!

  • kgmvp

    If this trade goes on i will still be a laker fan for sure will be a contender not only will the lakers have great future but will also have great solid team to win a championship in 08.
    Go Lakers!!!!!!!!

  • lakerfan81

    If the lakers trade Bryant they need to get creative. The best thing to do would be to make a 3 or 4 team trade. Get eth ninth pick from chicago Deng, gordon Thomas, PJ Brown. then you have a alot to work with, as far as including other teams in the trade. Maybe they can intice the suns out of atlanta’s 2008 pick for thomas and some cap space. Then say they could trade the 9th pick as Conley and get Randolph. They would have a lot to build on for the future. they would still have most of their valuable parts right now and have A solid 25 and ten player in Randolph. A line up of Farmar or say Jarret Jack or Dan Dickau from portlan. They might be at a loss for a year or two but they could make it up in the near future and be at a contending level in 3 to 5 years.

    Or they could keep the ninth pick and still see if they could make a trade for gasol. Then they wold have Gasol a solid interior player and maybe Conley as the ninth pick (if available). They would have Gordon, Conley, Odom and Gasol, 2008 atlanta pick or perhaps Conley Gordon, Deng, the 2008 pick from Atlanta, Gasol and Bynum. thats something to build on.

  • punkjones

    If I were Laker management I would never trade Kobe for a bunch of nobodies. Look what happened with the Shaq trade. And we got some decent players back in Lamar Odom and Caron Butler. Those guys are way more talented than the knuckleheads you’re talking about. Am I losing my mind that I’m hearing Lakers fans actually talk out loud about trading the BEST PLAYER ANYONE HAS SEEN SINCE MICHAEL JORDAN, in fact, the only guy that MJ himself has nothing but praise for . . . for a bunch of so so guys from the east? It’s pathetic that we’re in this situation. Mitch Kupchak will go down as the worst GM of all time. At least McHale is smart enough to keep his best player at all costs even though he’s F-ed up the franchise with his other moves. We lose Kobe and we will be mired in mediocrity for, well, with this GM and Jim Buss calling all the shots for him . . . I’d say a VERY, VERY long time.

    The only guy who is interesting that you’re talking about here is Gasol and what is precluding us from a making a move to get him here with Kobe now? Kobe’s the guy over in Spain trying to make that happen while we haven’t heard one peep lately of the Lakers FO even approaching this subject. They are beyond inept.

  • lakerfan81

    I agree that the lakers shouldn’t trade Kobe I’m just saying if (thats a big if) they have to that they can get creative and get some nice peices to build around. If kobe does get traded Mitch will always be remembered as the GM that traded two superstars in 5 years. I dont think mitch is the problem in the FO I think its Jim Buss. He wants to make all the decisions, but i think his dad will talk to him and he will eventually do what his dad did and allow the basketball decision be made by the people who know basketball and can judge talent and not by the rich son of the team owner.

  • Justin M.

    Kobe’s dam stupid if he leaves, He will be in the same postion that he was in last year but the only differance will be is that he just made a hole lot more enemies and kobe haters. Thats definatly not what he needs at this stage of his career.

  • Rounder8055

    We have survived losing great players like Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic, Worthy, Shaq, and true Laker fans will survive the lost of Kobe. Except this time if we trade him to a place like Chicago, we will be better off. Think about about it:

    Deng
    Gordon
    Odom
    Bynum
    9th pick
    24th pick
    Shit we can even still trade Kwame’s ugly ass contract and get another solid player.
    Walton

    Trust me Laker faithful, we’d be better off than you think.

  • Lakes on 3!!

    I’m so sick of hearing rumors…just do what you’re gonna do and get it over with. The thing about this trade is that the Lakers will be a balanced team, we wont have a marquee player but we can do damage.
    LAKES ON 3!!

  • http://GETGARNETT.COM ROBERT

    I like the way lakerfan81 thinks well put..good thinking bro!

  • juan

    Nobody..let me reiterate..NOBODY..is greater than a franchise itself..not Kobe..not anyone…..cool?

    Lakers will be fine without Kobe.

    Call me crazy..but do you think Lamar Could be a REAL REAL SUPERSTAR if kobe left?

    I think so.

  • juan

    if kobe doesnt go..there will be some BOOING at staples…trust me..some will boo him….

  • KingKobe

    I’d boo him.
    Anyway, Kobe sees how easy it is to win in the east and salivates at the possible headlines that say “KOBE LEADS BULLS TO NBA FINALS!”

    I agree that, if handled correctly and creatively, we could come out ahead big time by trading Kobe.

    I wish none of this was happening believe me, Kobe is the greatest, but if he doesn’t want to be here we gotta look ahead.

    Would Phil stick around having to teach the triangle to new pieces?
    I dunno, he did come back because of Kobe.

  • punkjones

    LF81 –
    I hear you. I agree that Jim Buss is the culprit for letting the franchise slide. He’s certainly pulling the strings right now and Mitch is just a figurehead. Nonetheless, there is some culpability for Mitch as well. Drafting Cook ahead of Barbosa – inexcusable. Resigning Cook and Sasha this year when they are awful, just incomprehensible. Aaron McKie? Terrible.

    Ok,does anyone bashing Kobe here not notice the timeline of his outburst? Yesterday I have to admit that I didn’t get it at all, but today it makes sense to me. It was reported on Thursday morning that trade talks had stalled between Lakers and Indy regarding JO. The very next day Kobe had his agent issue the statement that he still wanted to be traded. He is sending a clear message that the fact that they have failed yet again to put together a trade shows him that they will not get things done for him. I can’t say that I blame him in that regard.

    For many reasons, the Lakers should have pulled the trigger on the deal. But the biggest reason is that it would have signalled to Kobe that they were willing to make things happen. Instead it showed them that they are too conservative or too concerned with the future rather than the present.

    Many fans here have commended Lakers FO for not doing that deal but I still say they should do it. LO should be moved. We all feel for LO after his last horrific summer, but fact remains that his best games in Lakers uni for the most part have come with Kobe off the floor. LO and Kobe have not worked too well together the past 3 years. LO is a great talent, but for whatever reason, his own or coaches, he has not played in the post except on rare occassions. JO, while he does fade away, at least has a go to move and sets up in the post.

    The injury thing is not a good excuse for not getting JO. LO has been seriously injured two out of three years here. They cancel each other out in that regard.

    Bynum is not important to hang on to unless you’re building for the future instead of trying to win now. His meltdown last year shows that he is at least a few years away from really becoming a good player – if it happens then. Not worth losing the best years of Kobe’s playing career to see if he pans out. We could be hanging on to Bynum to get another trade done, but sometimes you’ve just got to move a guy now. Getting a perennial all star, even though he’s from the East, is worth giving up a guy in the same position who doesn’t fit and another guy who Jackson doesn’t want to develop.

  • lakersbabyy

    Ok so it has come down to this? screw kobe… we obviously tried our best and who knows maybe lakers will play as a team now that number 24 is gone… we never even got pass the first round with the most talented player in the whole NBA league so maybe its him who needs to change… lakers forever baby i dont care if we have the crapiest team in the NBA this is laker town… and all you people who are so into kobe screw you all as well.. this is LA LAKERS not LA KOBE!

  • juan

    lakersbabyy..

    CORRECT…LA LAKERS will live on.

    with 24 or with no 24. and we WILL win again.

    damnit i wish Jeannie Buss or Magic Johnson would be in charge then we wouldnt be in this predicament.

    screw JIM BUSS…he is a freaking MORON.

  • juan

    You know when Jordan was winning 6 championships…i hated the Bulls..i still hate every team EXCEPT THE LAKERS.

    I dont care if kobe plays anywhere..i wont support him..obviously..he isnt a laker…i loved shaq..when he was gone…good riddance..

    LAKERS FIRST AND FOREMOST….

  • punkjones

    I understand the anger vs. Kobe, I had it too yesterday, but apparently even Stephen A Smith today said it was unlikely the Lakers would move Kobe. We would not be better off without him. Understand that Kobe is posturing in part to make the Lakers FO show him they are serious about building a contender now. I’m not saying he’s not serious about wanting a trade if that happens – that’s what he’s saying. But the recent JO debacle, which many have applauded here, is something that pissed Kobe off and showed him the Lakers were moving in the wrong direction. He wants to see JO here – the guy’s his friend and he knows he can play with him as opposed to Lamar who is good but hasn’t shown he can consistently bring his A game with Kobe.

    This would not have happened if they had done the deal. Look at the timing of the events.

  • MoneyMarl

    Jim Paxon not only knows that he is the only GM that holds the ability to trade for KObe, he also knows that the lakers are between a rock and a hard place, they know Kobe holds all the cards and can veto any deals he doesn’t like. He wont give up both Ben GOrdon and Deng.

  • Justin M.

    I dont wanna see any trade rumors because all it has done is cause dissapointment, anger and false hopes. I would appreciate it if the only posts on this website are quotes from Kobe, Garnett ,J.Oneal, the Lakers FO and not their agents, kids or “insiders”. So everyone stop puttin kobe down and startin trade rumors. Peace.

  • ANDREWBYNUM17

    THE ONLY people who SUPPORT KOBE IN all of this, ARE 14 and 15 YEAR OLD DUMBASS YOUNG BOYS AND GIRLS WHO DON’t KNOW JACK ABOUT THE NBA AND THE KOBE’S POOPY PAST. YOU HAVE TO BE REAL YOUNG AND REAL DUMB AS A BRICK TO SUPPORT KOBE IN ALL OF THIS.

    YOU KOBE FANS ARE YOUNG RETARDS AND THAT’S FACT. GET YOUR sh*T OUT OF HERE AND TAKE IT TO THE PLAYGroUNDS where YOU DuMB KOBE FANS PLAY NOT HERE ON THE INTERNET.

  • KobetheMamba

    [quote comment="1704"]I’m so sick of hearing rumors…just do what you’re gonna do and get it over with. The thing about this trade is that the Lakers will be a balanced team, we wont have a marquee player but we can do damage.
    LAKES ON 3!![/quote]

    Weren’t you the one that said that you ran into Kobe’s agent at Disneyland and he told you that Laker fans are about to be really happy? Care to elaborate?

  • kb24lightsout

    [quote comment="1719"]THE ONLY people who SUPPORT KOBE IN all of this, ARE 14 and 15 YEAR OLD DUMBASS YOUNG BOYS AND GIRLS WHO DON’t KNOW JACK ABOUT THE NBA AND THE KOBE’S POOPY PAST. YOU HAVE TO BE REAL YOUNG AND REAL DUMB AS A BRICK TO SUPPORT KOBE IN ALL OF THIS.

    YOU KOBE FANS ARE YOUNG RETARDS AND THAT’S FACT. GET YOUR sh*T OUT OF HERE AND TAKE IT TO THE PLAYGroUNDS where YOU DuMB KOBE FANS PLAY NOT HERE ON THE INTERNET.[/quote]
    And who do you think you are to say that?

    Anyways, im now thinking that it was meant to be that Kobe’s prime years were meant to be in Chicago and starting the next Bulls dynasty.That would make more comparisons between the two and Kobe would be considered the next Jordan.

  • lakersforlife77

    I’m actually loving this. I’m growing tired of Kobe’s off the court demeaner, and I can’t wait for the new era to begin. Just think about it, we’re never going to make a championship run with kobe, we can’t compete, we’re going to lose all of our rebuilding assets and will be left with nothing once he just opts out in 2009 anyways because he has shown that’s how he is now. So trade kobe and start the rebuilding, the kobe era is over, a new era has begun.

  • punkjones

    Hmmm . . . yes, the new era of no go to players. Can’t wait. I’m a Lakers fan. I suffered through the post-Magic era. I’m not in the mood to lose Kobe in the prime of his career. He’s been consistently our best player for the last 6 years since the first championship with Shaq. I just can’t see how doing some fire sale deal with Chicago is going to help our team. They won’t give us anything worthwile and neither will NY.

  • lakerfan81

    Kobe does not hold all of the cards. The Lakers do not have to trade him if they do not like the trade. If Kobe says no to any trade they come up with then all they have to say is fine then there won’t be any trade. Kobe Can’t opt out of his contract for another two years and I don’t think he will like not playing very much. you can say thats not fair to Kobe but its just business nothing personal.