Special thanks to Faith, Fatty and Cyrus for creating this challenge for TheLakersNation.com. Again, if you guys have any suggestions, you want to throw at us, please e-mail us at Webmaster@TheLakersNation.com.

What if you had the key to Mitch’s office while he’s enjoying his “well deserved” vacation? You’d have the opportunity to sneak in his unoccupied office, make yourself comfortable in his leather armchair, and work his phones and computers to play the General Manager of the glamorous Los Angeles Lakers until he’s back from vacation on August 24. Most importantly, just ignore Jimmy Buss and do what you think is right.

You got one week to prove you’re better than Mr. Kupchak in improving the roster. Post your suggestions following these rules:

  1. Support your trade ideas with facts and why you think your proposal would help Lakers.
  2. Do not propose unrealistic trades such as Tim Duncan, D. Wade, Lebron James etc.
  3. All trades must comply with NBA and CBA trade regulations
  4. Do not trade Kobe Bryant.
  5. You are allowed to spend $5-Mil luxury tax.
  6. Staff and judges may not participate.
  7. Contest ends on August 23

Also, you may pretend that you’re the General Manager of the other team and counter or negotiate offers made by the Lakers fantasy GM. If you’re countering an offer made by other bloggers, please make sure you base your arguments on facts. To make a counter offer, please begin your posts with words like this example:

“I am the GM of the Pacers and I am countering the trade offer of Fatty”

Judges, Faith, Fatty, Cyrus and LakersFan81 will evaluate all proposal and a winner will be announced on August 24th.

Winner will receive a certificate of appreciation: “The General Manager of the Month” honored by TheLakersNation.com.

Here are a few websites you can use as reference…

A -For player’s stats:

http://www.nba.com/statistics/

http://www.nba.com/hotzones/

B – Team salaries and salary caps and trade regulations:

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

http://realgm.com/src_gm_resources.php

C – Trade calculators and trade machines:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine


  • fatty

    So you want to be a GM? You think your better then Mitch? Do a good job, make the Lakers a contender, and I will get you lunch with the good Doctor himself. Make the Lakers into a lottery contender and we will let everyone know you need to go back to GM school. lol

    Let’s see what you got……we’re waiting.

  • http://www.myspace.com/regg66 rpouncy14

    I just make sum trades.

  • wasay24

    how do we show you the trades we made

  • fatty

    rpouncy14 – Go for it, have some fun. We promise not to be too hard on you.

  • fatty

    Leave your proposals on the board. We’ll get back to you later. I’m going to Quickie Mart for a squishy.

  • wasay24

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~3002~125&teams=7~7~13&te=&cash=

    lakers trade kwame brown and jordan farmar for marcus camby and so that gives us a beast in the middle

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=617~1016~2421~25~61&teams=23~23~23~13~13&te=&cash=

    lakers trade vlad, sasah, and lamar for mike bibby and ron artest so this trade gives us a great point guard and a devensive foward

    the last move is that lakes sign chris webber for the inside scoring and his great passing he can do

    the lakers team looks like this

    Guard-biiby/fisher/crittenton

    Shooting guard-Kobe/Evans/Carl

    Small Foward-Ron Artest/Luke Walton

    Power Foward-Chris Webber/Brian Cook/Ronny Turiaf

    Center-Marcus Camby/Andrew Bynum/Chris Mihm

    Now this for sure is a championship team they have all the right players on the team. they have a good pointguard and SG plus a 2 devensive players and a great player that is a perfect fit for the triangle.

    All the trades i made were good for bot teams to.

  • lakerfan81

    This is funny. Do you know how much crap trades you will have to read through. Most of the people on this site have no Idea of how the business side of basketball works. That is why they keep writing stuff like “Mitch get it done” when making trades for O’neil. They fail to realize that the other team has to agree to it too.

  • The Nugget

    [quote comment="12113"]how do we show you the trades we made[/quote]
    Here in the comments.

  • KOBEISKING

    Chris Paul and Peja Stojackovic for Vlad and kwame
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~1016~2779~813&teams=3~3~13~13&te=&cash=

    Gives us another great PG and a hot 3 point specialist to replace vlad

  • lakerfan81

    OK heres a trade that might actually work. Two problems with it, but it might be worth trying.

    http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/

    The Lakers have two big needs (an a lot of little ones). One of them is a big man. Not necessarily one that will score but one that is a monster on the boards like Rodman was. Not sure how to fix that problem so I tried to fix the other big problem: a wing defender in the form of Hidayet Turkoglu.

    I remember reading a while ago that Turkoglu was being considered in trades, but I am not 100% sure if he is actually available or what Orlando would want in return. But because they gave Lewis a ridiculously large contract that he does not deserve, they could not resign Milicic so they need some front court help. Thus they get Shelden Williams or Lorenzen wright from Atlanta and a PG in Anthony Johnson. They also get a shooter and an expiring contract in Vujacic. Atlanta has an overload at two positions. PF and PG. They also need shooters. SO they get Vlad for a PG and PF that they do not need.

    A couple problems with this trade. One is that Vlad had such a bad year last year that his value is almost zero, but he is a good shooter so a team that needs a shooter might be interested. Maybe the Lakers could throw in a draft pick to sweeten the deal for Atlanta. The other problem is that, like a stated earlier, I am not sure that Turkoglu is actually available.

  • lakerfan81

    oops…
    that link does not work. So i will write out the trade.

    Lakers send: Vlad Radmonovich to ATl (and a draft pick if necessary), and Sasha Vujacic to Orlando. Get: Turkoglu from Orlando.

    Orlando Send: Turkoglu to the Lakers. Get Anthony Johnson and Sheldon Williams (or Lorenzen Wright) from Atl.

    Atlanta Send Anthon Johnson and Sheldon Williams to Orlando. Get Vlad Rad ( draft pick?) from Lakers.

  • Thuggishsteer

    http://realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/
    I BELIEVE THIS WILL MEET YOUR NEEDS QUITE PERFECTLY!

  • truelakerfan32

    trade andrew bynum,kwame brown,sasha vujacic,vladimir romanvic,brian cook,2009 1st round pick for jermaine oneal,ike diogu

    trade lamar odom,maurice evans,2011 first round pick for john salmons,lamar odom,2nd round pick

    sign chris webber to a vet min

    use 5 mill luxury tax for sasha palovic

    pg:derek fisher/javaris crittenton/jordan farmar
    sg:kobe bryant/sasha palovic/coby carl
    sf:ron artest/john salmons
    pf:jermaine oneal/ronny turiaf/ike diogu
    c:chris mihm/chris webber

  • BringDFishBack

    I did this on a website. Almost every team had a gm, and everyone made trades. I was the lakers and heres what happened. It was before fisher was released, so he was aquired in a trade with the Jazz. I basically aquired baron davis from gs for a package centered around odom. I then moved a package centered around baron and bynum for tmac. Then I made a deal involving tmac for boozer and fisher. I resigned mihm, turiaf, and walton. I drafted Arron Afflalo and signed Ryan Hollins. Now, thats where that ended. Heres what’d i’d do from that point on. Assuming the fact fisher was signed and didnt need to be traded for, i could have also aquired matt harpring. Send kwame along with next years 1st rd pick for maggette. Then using our mle sign webber along with dee brown. The roster looks like:
    PG – Fisher/Farmar/Dee Brown
    SG – Kobe/Evans/Afflalo
    SF – Walton/Maggette/Harpring
    PF – Boozer/Turiaf
    C – Mihm/Webber/Ryan Hollins

    Now, heres why i think it will be successful. At point, theres not a better fit than Fish. He knows the triangle, is friends with kobe, and will be a great mentor for farmar. Why dee brown? He showed some signs in the playoffs last year he could be good plus with fisher and his daughter his availablity is always uncertain so it is a must we have 3 pgs. Kobe is kobe, mo evans is a great role player. Afflalo is a pretty good offensive player and is a great defender who could guard the 1, 2, or 3 position. He has showed he is clutch and always wants to win. Walton is key to our offensive, maggette could provide a spark off the bench. Him and walton would battle it out in training camp for the starting spot, but until maggette proves something he’s on the bench. Boozer is key. He will be that 2nd force behind kobe. When kobe is being doubled, he is the killer. He is the low post presence to open it up for kobe, and also fisher and walton on the 3 point arc. Turiaf is o so important, he’s the energizer bunny. Same case with mihm and webber as with walton and maggette, battling it out for starter but until webber proves something, he’s on the bench. Webber could fit the triangle nicely and give us a little more offense and defense. Hollins is just for insurance at the center spot, as with mihm and webber injuries are likely.

    FYI vlad and sasha were moved in trades for tmac and baron davis.

    That leaves us with a 14 man roster, so room for someone like karl. All salaries work.

  • lakerfan81

    I know I am not a judge but I have to point a few things out.

    [quote post="879"]Chris Paul and Peja Stojackovic for Vlad and kwame[/quote]
    There is absolutely no way in hell that will ever happen might as well trade kwame and Vlad for Tim duncan.

    [quote post="879"]rade andrew bynum,kwame brown,sasha vujacic,vladimir romanvic,brian cook,2009 1st round pick for jermaine oneal,ike diogu

    trade lamar odom,maurice evans,2011 first round pick for john salmons,lamar odom,2nd round pick

    sign chris webber to a vet min

    use 5 mill luxury tax for sasha palovic[/quote]

    Couple of things here.

    1. you cant use luxury tax to sighn a player. The Lakers only have about 1M left to sign players out of their MLE since they used it on Fisher.
    2. Indiana will not trade Ike Diogu. If their season is going really bad they may trade O’neil for Bynum, Kwame and fillers but they wil lnot send Diogu along with him. And that trade in the middle makes no sense. You have the Lakers getting Lamar Odom?

  • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta LiL_K
  • cyrus

    Lakerfan81,

    I am always impressed by your knowledge, if OK with you, I will add you to the panel of judges. As a judge you may counter offers as the GM of opposing team. But please write the name of the GM on top your comments,
    Like this:

    This Larry Bird responding to “the name of the person offering a trade” trade offer

  • cyrus

    Please support your trade proposals with some facts and why you think your trade idea will help Lakers. Thank you

  • lakerfan81

    Cyrus.. I can do that, At least I can help out a little bit.

    Thank You.

  • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta LiL_K

    sorry cyrus

    ok

    here

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~1998~3002~2421~25~61~3000~2184~881~933&teams=23~23~14~14~13~14~13~23~13~23&te=&cash=

    starting lineup

    PG- Derek FIsher/Java
    SG-Kobe/ Mo evans
    SF-Ron Artest/Luke Walton
    PF-Lamar Odom/Turiaf
    C-Andrew Bynum/ Chris MIhm

    id do it cuz it helps our defense out, makes us one of the deepest teams, and appeases the Kob.

  • cyrus

    wasay24,

    You proposal looks good and we will review it. And thank you for supporting your prop with some facts.

  • The Nugget

    I added a link on the sidebar — Keep posting your proposals! :)

  • BringDFishBack

    Can i do it again going in a different direction? Like have the one i did and another?

  • cyrus

    BringDFishBack,

    Thank you for your proposal and supporting facts. It looks like you know what you’re talking about. However, as a judge, I would like to ask you to use one of the trade machines to show your proposed trades. It will make it easier on everybody. We will review it after you have added the trade machine links to you proposal. Thanks again.

  • cyrus

    Thuggishsteer,

    Couple of things on your proposal:

    Your link doesn’t work, it has happened to me before on realGM. try using the ESPN machine.

    We would like you to support your trade ideas with some facts, just add a few lines and explain your trade idea and why you think it would help the Lakers. Thank you

  • cyrus

    BringDFishBack,

    Do as many as you like, BUT mark your final proposal with words on top:
    “MY FINAL PROPOSAL”
    Thanks

  • cyrus

    truelakerfan32,

    Thank you for your participation, but couple of things are missing in your post:
    Run your proposal through one of the trade machines (ESPN is preferred) and support your ideas with some word why you think it would help the Lakers.

  • BringDFishBack

    i forgot i got battier too, i knew i was missing a piece in the houston trade. Here’s what happens:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2748~3197~617~1016~2421~194~1703~306~976~532&teams=10~26~9~10~9~10~13~13~13~26&te=&cash=

    then, this trade
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=306~3187~568&teams=8~26~26&te=&cash=

    but the jazz our us, i had to use them because i was trading harpring. The original deal would actually be 5 teams, but it only lets you do 4.

    then, because of the whole battier thing no need to do the kwame for maggette deal because we would be overloaded at sf. our lineup would be:
    pg – fisher/farmar/dee brown
    sg – kobe/mo evans/afflalo
    sf – walton/battier
    pf – booz/kwame/turiaf
    c – mihm/webber/nazr/hollins

  • cyrus

    Thank you Nugget, That is exactly how I wanted it.

  • BringDFishBack

    nvm

  • LFTW

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=25~61~3000~849~2750~615~3038~2748~3002~617~1016~207~2184~933&teams=13~14~11~14~23~13~23~11~11~11~11~23~23~23&te=&cash=

    Ok so this trade can be seperated into different parts like the Miami deal for Bibby can be done after an Artest deal…

    *Lakers give Sacromento future 1st cash, Miami gives Sacromento future 2nd*

    *Abdul-Rahim can be switched in for Thomas*

    Lakers-We get Artest JO at the cost of giving up Odom Bynum. However we also force Indy to take on Vlad’s contract by doing this but Indy does get rid of Daniel’s contract so that cancels it out. Artest and JO are two former DPOY canidates and JO is a former MVP canidate, both would help out on both the offensive and defensive ends of the floor.

    Pacers-They unload the contracts of JO Daniels and although get rid of two young pieces in Diogu and Williams they get back Bynum, Farmar, and Douby to replace them. They also get Radmanovic to replace Daniels.

    Kings-They unload both Artest and Bibby so they’re essentially going into rebuilding mode. They get back a future 1st 2nd, Diogu and S. Williams as young talent, J. Williams as a 9 mil exp to run the point, and Haslem who is a nice roleplayer for the future. They also get a backup C in Doleac who has a 3 mil exp..

    Heat-They lose Haslem but get back either Kenny Thomas or Shareef-Abdul Rahim to replace him, they also get Mike Bibby to go with D-Wade and Shaq.

  • cyrus

    LFTW,

    Thank you for your elaborate 4 team proposal and thank you for supporting your ideas with some facts, that’s how it should be done. Th panel will review your trade proposal. Thanks again

  • cyrus

    BringDFishBack,

    Thank you, your 5 team proposal looks good and it seems you put a lot of work in it. The only thing missing is the supporting fact why you think you proposal would help the Lakers. Please explain!

  • cyrus

    LiL_K,

    Thank you for adding a line of explanation to your trade ideas, But I think when you make blockbuster trade involving 10 players. it needs a little more explanation than just saying it will give us defensive advantage and it helps Kobe. We need a few more words to support your 10 players trade.

  • BEC

    [quote comment="12117"]This is funny. Do you know how much crap trades you will have to read through. Most of the people on this site have no Idea of how the business side of basketball works. That is why they keep writing stuff like “Mitch get it done” when making trades for O’neil. They fail to realize that the other team has to agree to it too.[/quote]

    This is funny. Ive gone through all the post and NOT ONE seems realistic. I see a lot of bibby and artest trades, but theres no way kings are going to give them up for trash players and expiring contracts, at the very least include young talent.

  • cyrus

    BEC,

    Thank you for reviewing proposals, but why don’t you make a realistic trade proposal? It’s easy to be critical but no so easy to suggest a solution.

  • gstoneballer

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~3002~25~1726&teams=23~23~13~13&te=&cash=23:13
    If i was the Laker GM, I know one thing i would not do is stand pat. So what i would do, is trade Jordan Farmar, Kwame Brown, Cash, and a draft pick for Ron Artest and John Salmons. Being that the Maloofs will not do a move to benefit the lakers, maybe throw in another draft pick. It makes sense, Sacramento gets rid of their problem and salary. They get a decent big man in kwame brown who’s contract expires, and a young gun point guard with tremendous upside in Farmar, who can be the future, when they decide to part ways with bibby, whenever that may be. The Lakers huge need is in the middle. Being that Indiana is being so stubborn about it having to be Lamar and Bynum, we will have to stay with the line up of Fisher, Kobe, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom, and Bynum. Then hope that the Pacers start off really slow, and then hopefully the Pacers will lower their asking price. But i Think the deal i mentioned improves the team, and gives us a chance to get out of the first round for the first time since 04.

  • raphaelr

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1031~2421~2427~308~3019~2377~2381&teams=9~4~4~4~13~13~13~13~9&te=&cash=9:13

    with this trade, the lakers will receive al harrington, andris biedrins, Patrick O’ Bryant, and chris duhon.

    so our line up will be

    PG:
    Derek Fisher/ Jordan Farmar/ Chris Duhon/ Javaris Crittenton (can never have too many point guars :P, and chris duhon and javaris crittenton can also become a secondary sg
    SG:
    Kobe Bryant/Chris Duhon/ Javaris Crittenton. Coby Karl
    SF:
    Lamar Odom/ Luke Walton/ Vladim Radmonivic
    PF:
    Al Harrington/ Ronny Turiaf/ Brian Cook
    C:
    Andris Biedrins/ Chris Mihm/ Patrick O’Bryant

    I think the Lakers will do this trade because the Lakers get another option for Kobe, that can be a poor man’s Jermaine O’neal or Kevin Garnett, yet they keep lamar odom. As for loosing bynum, the lakers get two young and developing centers in Andris Biedrins, and Patrick O’bryant. And to end the deal, we get Chris Duhon, a good back up point guard who can shoot the ball, who is good defensively, and can also be a backup shooting guard on occasions.
    Golden State will do this trade for Several reasons:
    They get a very good Shooting Guard in Ben Gordon who is one of the best shooters, and will be a perfect fit for the fast break offense, plus an be a replacement to jason richardson
    Kwame Brown can be a replacement for andris biedrins, a better post up game, more defense, and a fat expiring contract.
    And golden state gets cash.
    Chicago Will do this deal for several reasons
    the first is andrew bynum. They will get a young post presence, who can block shots, and he is a developing center in the making that can replace ben wallace.
    Chicago also gets Sasha Vujacic and Maurice Evans, which both are good defensively, both can shoot the lights out, and Mo Evans can give those “thunder slams” that will get the crowd going.

    I hope this proposal is good, please give feedback.

  • cyrus

    gstoneballer,

    Thank you for your proposal and your explanation. We will review it. Also, somebody from the panel may counter your prop.

  • cyrus

    raphaelr,

    Thank you for your 3 team proposal and your explanation. We will review it. Also, somebody from the panel may counter your prop.

  • BringDFishBack

    [quote comment="12151"]BringDFishBack,

    Thank you, your 5 team proposal looks good and it seems you put a lot of work in it. The only thing missing is the supporting fact why you think you proposal would help the Lakers. Please explain![/quote]

    I did that in my orginal proposal, i thought i just needed to add trade machine links?

    but anyway, here it is again
    Hres why i think it will be successful. At point, theres not a better fit than Fish. He knows the triangle, is friends with kobe, and will be a great mentor for farmar. Farmar should stay because he is a great understudy for fisher and has some starts under his belt should fish have to miss a few games. He also has high bball iq and already knows the triangle better than most on the team. Why dee brown? He showed some signs in the playoffs last year he could be good plus with fisher and his daughter his availablity is always uncertain so it is a must we have 3 pgs. Kobe is kobe, mo evans is a great role player. Afflalo is a pretty good offensive player and is a great defender who could guard the 1, 2, or 3 position. He has shown he is clutch and always wants to win. Afflalo has all the qualities of kobe, offensive talent, great defender, clutch, and always wants to win. Walton is key to our offense becuase he knows the triangle and has shown a lot of improvement as of late. Battier, well who wouldn’t want this guy on your team? He’s a class act, a great defender and is a guy for kobe to kick it too for a 3. Him and walton would battle it out in training camp for the starting spot, but until he proves something he’s on the bench. Boozer is key. He will be that 2nd force behind kobe. When kobe is being doubled, he is the killer. He is the low post presence to open it up for kobe, and also fisher, walton, and battier on the 3 point arc. Turiaf is o so important, he’s the energizer bunny. Kwame is bascially a body in the middle taking up space till his contract is up next year. Same case with mihm and webber as with walton and battier, battling it out for starter but until webber proves something, he’s on the bench. Webber could fit the triangle nicely and give us a little more offense and defense. Nazr and Hollins are just for insurance at the center spot, as with mihm and webber injuries are likely.

  • cyrus

    Thanks BringDFishBack, Your proposal is completed and will be reviewed by the panel. Also, a panel member may counter your prop, we”ll see.

  • lakerfan81

    Couple of things:

    First the more teams involved in a trade the less likely the trade is. For example the proposal from bringbackderekfisher which included five teams is not very likely because it includes five teams. This is not fantasy basketball. It would almost be impossible to get that many teams to agree to a trade. The simpler a trade is the more likely it is too happen.

    Now a couple of counter offers.

    Wasay24:

    [quote post="879"]akers trade kwame brown and jordan farmar for marcus camby and so that gives us a beast in the middle[/quote]
    until you offer something close to Camby’s talent in return he is not on the table.

    [quote post="879"]akers trade vlad, sasah, and lamar for mike bibby and ron artest so this trade gives us a great point guard and a devensive foward[/quote]
    speaking as the kings: We do not want to trade within our own division unless it is an offer we can not refuse. If we consider moving Those two players we will require young talent and capspace.

    Gstoneballer: We have no interest in moving Ron Artest for Kwame and Farmar to a division rival.

    truelakerfan32: Larry bird speaking: We do not wish to move JO at this time unless we are getting equal value in return. We are building a team around him. We will take Odom, Bynum, Critt, 2008 1strnd pick for JO, but nothing less.

    Ok i have a few more but my wife is getting a little upset because I had to go into the lab today to finish a couple of experiments and now I’m on the computer.

  • cyrus

    Announcement:

    lakerfan81 is a member of the panel now and he may respond to your props.

  • cyrus

    LakerFan81,

    Here is a name list of all NBA GMs:
    http://www.hoopshype.com/general_manager.htm
    Or can simply say: I am the GM of…..
    Whatever you’re comfortable with

  • http://www.clubnetshoops.com Klewfish

    Do we have to sign up for this or can we just start proposing trades? I’d like to join.

  • fatty

    wasay24

    This is the Denver FO.

    I’m up here in the mile high city lookin down at your trade. You got me interested. We need to dump some salaries, but we still need a good team. We got AI and Melo, so we don’t really need any more scorers.

    Camby is way better than Kwame, but farmar could be a nice addition, because he works cheap. We need another 3 point shooter. We are not too good at that. you got one you can spare, plus we need more than just Kwame. That guy needs velcro on his hands to catch the ball. Can we get a pick as well?

    Denver GM

  • cyrus

    Lakerfan81,

    If it’s not too much work, please respond to each prop individually. Like Fatty just did right now. Thank you

  • wasay24

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~3002~2421~125&teams=7~7~7~13&te=&cash=

    hows this trade fatty you said you wanted a shooter in the mix to so heres the trade lakers trade kwame brown jordan farmmar sasaha vujacic and a 2nd round pick for marcus camby

  • fatty

    wasay24

    Sacramento: Maloof

    Have you heard of the palms casino in Vegas? I own it and I own the Kings along with my brother. First of all, why would I want to help you win a title? The Lakers are the dirtiest, filthiest, cheatingness team on the planet. They stole the game that took away our title. How much you pay those refs?

    I’ll have my secretary give you a call if we even interested in talking to you.

    Meanwhile. I got a strip show to go watch.

    Maloof

  • cyrus

    Fatty, Lakersfan81,

    I am leaving the site now and be back in couple of hours or less. Have fun and see you guys later.

  • fatty

    wasay24

    Denver FO

    You dont mess around. You must be desperate for this trade. Maybe I should be asking for more? I’ll tell you what. I’m going to sleep on this for about 72 hours. I’ll get back to you. Hey Mitch, I thought you was on vacation?

  • fatty

    Kobeisking

    NO FO

    Have you ever heard of Mardi Gras? Its where people get drunk and dance around naked. Are celebrating a little too early?

    Why would we give up Chris for your loser boys? We talking Allstar here, maybe HOF. He not touchable. Now you’all talkin Kobe and we might gettoghter for some seafood gumbo.

    But I’m sorry, I can’t help you.

  • G-Funk

    To Lakers:
    Yeah I Know Bynum/Farmar would be good in the near future but this 2 guyz wont be able to do what Artest can provide for us now….I remember once Ervin Johnson say we are 2 playerz away from competing, he said “we need a good player(D-Fish) and we need a great Player (Artest)”. Hey and for all those who say that Bynum is our Future, get over that! Kobe was supposed to be our future and the future is now. Why do you guyz want Bynum to be our future for? so the Lakerz can get 2 do the same to Bynum as they are doing to Kobe?

    So I would Ship out Bynum,Sasha,Cook,Farmar for http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2748~1998~3002~2421~25&teams=23~23~23~23~13&te=&cash=

    our line up would look like this…

    Kwame/Mihm/Turiaf
    Lamar/Radman/Turiaf
    Artest/Luke
    Kobe/Evans
    Fisher/Javaris

    we keep the core , some good backups!
    check it!

    Opponents PPG
    Before Artest: 102.1
    After Artest: 93.9

    Kings PPG
    Before Artest: 99.2
    After Artest: 98.8

    Yeah it went down a little, but not significantly.
    Kings opponents scored over 100 points 24 times before Artest. After Artest, they did it 7 times.You didn’t get his best defense last year because a disc in his back got messed up like 8 games into the season. And the year before that, when he came here he breathed life back into the team. Kings sucked…badly. Then he showed up and improved everyone’s defense. He made the team hungry again and pretty much carried them into the playoffs. Everyone’s defense. You heard me. Ron Artest got Mike Bibby to play some D.

    To Petrie: I know you guys are probably one of the fewest teams that are willing to rebuild if you get the right deal of course. So im gonna offer you 2 great prospects that can help you build a team around K-Mart and your other young talent. How about if I give you Bynum & Farmar with our 2 fillers(Cook,Sasha)? I know you guys probably hate us for what happend a few years back but you can’t put the blame on us.We were simply trying accoplish the same goal you guys were after, don’t forget this is a buisness first and with a line up of

    C.Bynum
    Pf.Hawes
    Sf.Garcia
    Sg.K-Mart
    Pg.Farmar

    wouldn’t hurt your future!!! and you guys would still have Bibby for cap space or for other young tallent, what ever you guys want to do! I think im giving you enought for a headcase so what do you say, you know bigs like Bynum don’t come around as often so leave me a msg with your anwser if you decline it then you tie up my hands so send me a msg with a yes or no, let’s not go around the bush!

  • fatty

    lakerfan32

    Larry Bird

    I told you, NO JO unless we get LO. OK, maybe I can do the deal (ring – ring) Wait a second, I got Thorn on the line. I’ll get back to you later.

  • Rpoc

    The ideal trade which is contingent on Bird stopping his damn attempts at ripping us with Lamar and Bynum:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=615~981~2748~3197~1031~2421&teams=13~11~11~11~11~11&te=&cash=11:13

    JO for Bynum/Kwame/Critt or Farmar/Evans/Sasha and 2008 1st rounder, 2010 first rounder

    Max cash compensation for the option of buying out Sasha’s contract. Expiring contracts and potential. It’s also sending him to a different conference. The package must be centered around Bynum as a Odom for JO is a downgrade for them. They are doing it on attempting to get back in the game at a later date with Bynum and a good point guard.

    New lineup:

    JO/Mihm/
    Odom/Turiaf/Cook
    Walton/Vlad/
    Kobe/Coby?
    Fisher/Farmar or Critt

    Possible Phil type of experimental starting lineup:

    Mihm
    JO
    Odom
    Kobe
    Fisher

    Unlike the cake thrower who hangs around in lesbian bars with stone hands and has no jump shot, JO does and can play PF in the triangle.

    Could use vet. minimum to get more backups like the Celtics are doing. Webber rings a bell. Shaw has a better chance of convincing him with JO on board. That would be good. Armstrong? Last legs but another vet for Phil and Kobe.

    A great scenario after that is Cook, McKie sign and trade 1 year, 2nd round pick for Head and Sura. They’ve got a slew of point guards anyway. Sura’s gonna be gone too. Exchange McKie’s contract for his to make the trade work. This one’s reaching if Rockets don’t value Cook.

    Stashed overseas: Gasol, Sun

    No way Queens trade with us.
    Memphis made moves that signal keeping Pau Gasol.
    KG is wearing the dreaded green.

    JO is the logical blockbuster to placate Kobe. They’ve known each other since they were teenagers and a trio of Kobe-JO-Lamar is needed to contend in the West.

    If it all happened this way, awesome day!

  • fatty

    G Funk

    Maloof here

    Looks interesting. Came you come on down to Vegas so we can talk about this a little more. And bring some dollar bills with you, I’m fresh out of ones.

    By the way, if we were to do this deal, would you go on national TV and say the Lakers cheated us out of the title?

  • raphaelr

    I haven’t gotten a response, but everyone else has :(

  • G-Funk

    To:Mr.Maloof

    hahaha! Actually right now Im kinda buzy, Im working on a deal that would bring Jo without parting with Lamar so I would apreciate it if we can maybe meet @ Morongo Casino, and ill bring you a few extra bucks!and no Im not interested in coming on any show saying such thing,Im would like to keep my/and the Lakers dignity, hope you understand!

  • fatty

    raphaelr

    You got me thinking. Somtimes in trade proposals, it takes time to analyze all the moves. Silence can sometimes be golden.

  • raphaelr

    [quote comment="12184"]raphaelr

    You got me thinking. Somtimes in trade proposals, it takes time to analyze all the moves. Silence can sometimes be golden.[/quote]
    ok ok, I will wait, it is just I spent some time on that proposal, but I want a good anaylis or decision, and thank you for the quick response.

  • fatty

    Rpoc,

    That’s some serious stuff you are proposing. Two number ones? Maybe enough to bring the Birdman to his senses.

  • Rpoc

    [quote comment="12186"]Rpoc,

    That’s some serious stuff you are proposing. Two number ones? Maybe enough to bring the Birdman to his senses.[/quote]
    If they’re willing to accept one #1, then even better. I’m putting 2 assuming Bird will be a hard ass. We still have the 2009 #1 and MLE to use to plug holes as long as the window is open.

  • cyrus

    Klewfish,

    Just post your proposal here. no sign up required.

  • fatty

    guys,

    I gotta go and get some dinner. Hey, if Mitch can go on vacation during one of the most important summers in laker history, then I can go and get some mexican food. haha

    Hasta luego, Fatty

  • cyrus

    Fatty
    See you later, Don’t eat too much beans.haha

  • lakerfan81

    raphaelr

    Paxson here: I am not one to take gambles. I drafted well and made some smart moves to get the young talent that I have now. It’s pretty windy in Chicago but I can still here the fans trying to have me lynched for moving Gordon for Bynum when I could have gotten Gasol last year. If you take sephalosha and Adrian Griffin instead of gordan than I would go for it.

    Besides I am still waiting for Kobe to throw a tantrum and force a trade here.

    GS FO: if were not getting Gordan than we are not interested either. Besides I am still bitter that we did not get Garnett so I don’t want to help any other team. Maybe we can get Richardson back :(

  • lakerfan81

    rpoc

    larry bird (speaking out of my ass): I think we have a competitive team here in Indy. With a year more to build chemistry and if we remain healthy I think we can make the playoffs. We are building our team around JO. So unless you give us Odom, Bynum, Critt and a 1st rnd pick no deal. Actually if you sent me one of the championships Magic stole from me I would consider the deal.

  • BringDFishBack

    can i get a reply to my offer from the gms of the teams i was trading with?

  • http://www.clubnetshoops.com Klewfish

    Alright here goes nothing

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~1998~3002~1002~557&teams=20~20~20~13~13&te=&cash=

    TRADE 1
    Lakers Trade KWAME BROWN, JORDAN FARMAR, BRIAN COOK to 76ers for ANDRE MILLER, STEPHEN HUNTER

    Lakers do this to get a great PG that fits very well in the triangle, and another center to replace Kwame Brown. The Sixers do this to get a PG for the future to go along with their young core, a $9 mil exp K in Kwame, and another shooter to spread the floor in Brian Cook.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1724~883~617~1016&teams=13~13~8~8&te=&cash=

    TRADE 2

    Lakers Trade LAMAR ODOM, VLADAMIR RADMANOVIC, FUTURE 2nd ROUND PICK to Detroit for RASHEED WALLACE, TAYSHAUN PRINCE

    Lakers do this to get two great defenders at the SF and PF position. Pippen has said himself that Prince reminds him the most of himself in the current league. They both have plenty of playoff experience to help the Lakers win a title. Detroit does this to get a versatile replacement for an aging Rasheed Wallace, and a versatile SF/PF in Vladamir Radmanovic to help add some size to their frontcourt with those two 6′ 10” players.

    Lakers New Lineup:

    Andre Miller/Derek Fisher/Javaris Crittenton
    Kobe Bryant/Maurice Evans/Sasha Vujacic
    Tayshaun Prince/Luke Walton
    Rasheed Wallace/Chris Mihm/Ronny Turiaf
    Andrew Bynum/Stephen Hunter/Chris Mihm

  • lakerstothetop

    i know we need to make big moves to be a contender in the west http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=984~981&teams=13~3&te=&cash=3:13
    kwame cash and 1st rd pick in 08 and 2010, Tyson chandler will be our answer will be our answer for the inside 2nd in the league last year, kwame gives NO a cap dumper they are young team they would have 10 mil in cap for next years free agency and 2 1st rd picks in next years draftthen we need another perimeter defender and shane battier would be that man with that shooting ability to and for vlad who was paid to much
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=976~1016&teams=13~10&te=&cash=
    then we have depth off the bench in either luke or shane and our lineup is
    pg-d-fish/critt/farmar
    sg-kb24/sasha /coby
    sf-luke/shane
    pf-lamr/ronny/cook
    c-chandler/bynum/mihm

  • cyrus

    BringDFishBack,

    We will as soon as we get to it, your prop is very complicated and it involves five teams. Fatty took off for while and I am about to take off too. But we will get back you.

  • http://www.myspace.com/regg66 rpouncy14

    I gonna trade Kwame Brown, Brian Cook, Radmanovic, & Andrew Bymun 4 Jermain O’Neal.

    Da lineup is.

    Mihm/Gasol
    O’Neal/Turiaf/Posey(If they sign him)
    Odom/Walton/Evans
    Bryant/Sujacic/Yue
    Fisher/Farmar/Critenton

    Dat’s my lineup.

  • Shaq786

    3-WAY Trade (LAL/IND/NJ):

    LAL trades: ODOM, bynum, sasha, farmar, Brian Cook, V.Rad, Kwame, Maurice Evans, Aaron Mckie (S&T, 3 Million/one-year deal), a ’08 1st round pick, and a ’10 first round pick (or ’08 & ’09 second round picks)
    LAL Recieves: JO, Jason Kidd, David Harrisonand Danny Granger

    IND trades: J.O., Tinsley, David Harrison, and Danny Granger
    IND Receives: ODOM, bynum, sasha, farmar, Brian Cook, Aaron Mckie, and a ’08 first round pick

    NJ Trades: Jamaal Tinsley, V.Rad, Kwame, Maurice evans, Rights to Sun Yue, and a ’10 first round pick (or ’08 & ’09 second round picks)

    ~THAN SIGN CHRIS WEBBER for one million/one year, or a multiple year contract for a million a year if he prefers)!!!

    Line Up:

    Jason Kidd/D-fish/Javaris
    Kobe/Coby Karl
    Granger/Walton
    JO/Webber/Turaif
    Mihm/David Harrison

    Reasons:

    ~LAL would do this because they will become a championship team and even if they don’t win in the playoffs, they will get the 2 players of Kobe’s choice. This will keep Kobe in purple and gold for life.

    ~NJ would do this because they get a younger point gaurd who isnt exactly Jason Kidd but can fill in quiet well and allow young Marcus to get some more playing time, a deeper bench with sasha and Maurice evans (who can back up Vince very well), an expiring contract to give them a lot of relief, rights to Sun Yue who was not disapointing in the summer league (some critics call him the “chinese majic”) and who is very versatile (he can play the 1, 2, and 3.), and finally they get a choice of a first round pick or two second round picks.

    ~IND gets a broderline ALL STAR, a promising young pg, a promising true center, a young pf who shoots 40% from beyond the arc, expiring contract (Mckie’s), a first round pick, and they get dump Jamaal Tinsley’s bad contract. This is great for them since they are rebuilding.

    Salaries (most from hoopsworld.com):
    Kidd- 19,728,000
    JO- 19,710,000
    Kobe- 19,490,625
    D-Fish- 4,666,667 (aprox. b/c…a 3-year/$14 million contract.)
    Mihm- 2,500,000 (aprox. i heard he signed 4mill/2year)
    Granger- 1,516,800
    Harrison-1,334,039
    Javaris- 1,285,200
    Webber- 1,000,000
    Ronny- 770,610
    Coby- 500,000 (aprox. i know its smaller than Ronny’s contract)
    ——————-
    $72,501,941

    The Following is from Insidehoops.com:

    The tax level for the 2007-08 season has been set at $67.865 million. Any team whose team salary exceeds that figure will pay a $1 tax for each $1 by which it exceeds $67.865 million.

    The mid-level exception is $5.356 million for the 2007-08 season and the minimum team salary, which is set at 75% of the Salary Cap, is $41.723 million.

    Salaray Cap:2007-08 $55.630 million

    —————————————————–

    I have to be under $72,865,000 ($67.865 million. 5 mil.)
    …. the salaries came out to $72,501,941… which is less!!!

  • cyrus

    Attention all Fantasy GMs,

    Most Panel members are in recess right now, please keep posting your trade ideas, we will review all complete trade proposals. keep them coming. Thanks

  • BEC

    [quote comment="12157"]BEC,

    Thank you for reviewing proposals, but why don’t you make a realistic trade proposal? It’s easy to be critical but no so easy to suggest a solution.[/quote]

    Yes I will, Ok here goes, looking at players who are realistically on the trading block I propose this trade…
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1998~3197~2421~615&teams=11~11~11~11~11~13&te=&cash=

    JO for Bynum/Brown/Sasha/Crit/Cook plus draft picks to sweeten deal

    It works great for both sides, if Lakers want to win now and Pacers rebuild. Pacers get a really really really good rebuilding core in Bynum-C/Diogu-PF/Daniels or Dunleavy -SF/Granger -SG/Crit -PG. Am I the only one who thinks Bird should jump at this chance.?? Doesnt get better than that. By not trading JO NOW, JO wont be as good to contend when the young talent actually starts peaking and thats not good for Pacers. You need your core players to be at their best when you make a run for a title, JO doesnt fit this situation, by the time this team gets good JO wont be able to contribute like he can at the present moment thats why its best to get this young talent and build off that, when they get good then you can add vets.
    Thats a really good lineup, solid at all 5 positions. All havent even scratched the surface of thier potential. Pacers can make the playoffs in the east with that lineup, which satisfies fans, and they have a very promising future, which is even better for indy fans.

    As for the Lakers, Lakers get JO who can get 20-10 every night, relieving Kobe from carry the load, we got an excellent one-two punch INSIDE AND OUT. LO moves to SF, a more comfortable position, thus he plays better, and imagine the mismatches that WILL take place. The help defense!! With Kobe, LO, and JO they will kill with straight man to man defense. We will roll on offense, guarding this team alone will be difficult. We can consistently go inside and we still have shooters to spread the floor Fish/KB/LO can hit it from deep. And we got Kobe to care of perimeter play. With this trio, plus we still have Fish and Mihm who can easily contribute 10 pts every night. Which MOST IMPORTANTLY we gain consistency with our one-two punch and with Odom and others, our offense is easily the best in the league, just as good or better than Suns or any other team.

    MORE IMPORTANTLY…Now on defense, we instantly get better, we have a proven shot blocker JO avg 3blks a game a solid interior defender, with Mihm at Center we have solid front court defense. LO moves to guarding SF with his length versatility and speed he will easily create havoc for others. Help defense wont be a problem with this team because we have length and speed. That inside trio has size, length, and speed to consistently guard any inside presence and take care of any dribble penetration and can easily rotate on defense. At guard we have Kobe who can FINALLY play defense because he doesnt have to spend so much energy on offense. Kobe can easily defend against dribble penetration, guard the best guards, shut them down, and more importantly we can play man to man defense and helping out isnt necessary (that alone will help defend the 3). Also, with the experience in Fisher our backcourt defense is as good as anyone in the league. We can easily go small or big without a problem. Which can easily matchup and switch in pick and roll situations easily because of the versatility and speed of this lineup. Our defensive interior holes are easily filled with acquiring JO, JO also creates consitent offense and in turn fixes our lack of backcourt defense with the help of Kobe. When it comes to defensive rebounding we have two players who avg 10 boards a game, we also have Mihm and Bryant who can do the dirt too, so no problem their. With this team there are NO defensive holes and NO problems in guarding any player or team.

    Our lineup stands…
    Fish/Farmar
    Kobe/Evans
    LO/Walton/Vlad
    JO/Ronny
    Mihm/(Sign another big man like Webb or whatever to add depth)

    Even with a 5 players for one trade we still have depth. All we really need for the long haul of the NBA season is another PG and big man, but thats not important, we STILL have solid backups. We can sign vets for cheap to fill in any gaps in depth that we need.

    With that trade you will see me at Staple Center as Kobe guarantees back to back championships for LA and Lakers fans around the world.

    Thats my trade. I think I covered it all.

  • lakerfan81

    bringDfishback:

    Dumars: Nazr Mohammed is off limits, we have no intention of moving him.

    Jazz FO: we have no intention of moving Boozer even for someone as talented as McGrady. You can’t run a pick and roll with McGrady and Williams.

    Houston FO: We are not interested in moving McGrady or Battier. We feel Battier is one of the best roll players in the league and are not interested in moving him at this time. THough Davis is a special talent and one of the best PG’s in the league we are not interested in trading McGrady for him. He is injured more the McGrady is. Also we already have 12 PG (or whatever absurdly large number it is now) and do not need anymore more. But hey maybe we will just trade Yao since we got Francis now Yao will never get a post entry pass anyways.

    GS FO: Oh sorry we were on vacation and never even got a call. Maybe if you tried to make smaller/simpler trades all of the parties involved would find out about it. Oh and we are not moving Baron Davis. Our team and Coach are designed to run up and down the court and we need a PG that can facilitate such an offense. Besides Damn it we still want Garnett. Or at least J Richardson back.

  • Rpoc

    [quote comment="12192"]rpoc

    larry bird (speaking out of my ass): I think we have a competitive team here in Indy. With a year more to build chemistry and if we remain healthy I think we can make the playoffs. We are building our team around JO. So unless you give us Odom, Bynum, Critt and a 1st rnd pick no deal. Actually if you sent me one of the championships Magic stole from me I would consider the deal.[/quote]
    To Bird:

    Like KG, he’s not going to take it. He’s saying nice stuff to all the fans and all that but there was a reason he decided to vent at L.A. Damage control/PR.

    KG vented like saying ‘thank god for opt outs’ even though he said he loves Minny. McHale said he expects KG to be with the team in Oct., KG’s teammates said he loved Minny, and the owner said he wasn’t looking to trade him. Of course that was all a fascade as what he really wanted was to win.

    JO is in the same boat. You’re getting expiring contracts and good young prospects to add to your other young players like Ike and Granger. Andrew Bynum is the guy Walsh said could be next big thing. He wouldn’t be surprised is what he said. After having to deal with Tinsley, having a good young point guard to grow with the team is a nice change.

    I’m even being fair by not offering you redundant pieces like Vlad and Cook who are unwanted contracts to you. You already have Dunleavy and Murphy. You’re also saving a few million by doing this trade which brings me to another point:

    You haven’t even spent your MLE, Bird. You and I both know you’re trying to save money. You said you wouldn’t use it this year when the off-season started. Is that someone who is supposedly competing now?

    You’re also sending JO to another conference so you won’t be seeing him 4 times a year and the playoffs.

    Before you pull the Kobe card on me Bird, he has said there is no reason for him to not be in training camp.

  • ceballos-neverforget

    This is the trade I propose. I like it because I don’t think its something people are considering and they should.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1710~1022~3214~3002~617&teams=13~13~13~15~15&te=&cash=

    This would essentially trade Lamar and Farmar to the Bucks for Yi Jianlin, Bobby Simmons and Dan Gadzuric.

    The reason why this works is it solves a few issues. It gives us more depth in the post with Jianlin and Gadzuric. Jianlin is a lottery pick with potential to be a great secondary scorer to Kobe, and Gadzuric is a 100% energy player who’d be great for defensive hustle off the bench. Also, Simmons would be gold in this offense at the 3 spot. He adds athleticism and has got a great outside touch(he shoots over 40% from downtown).

    Buss would also love this because a great asian player like Yi would sell as wildly as kobe jerseys! This is the most ideal market for an asian player!

    Bucks would do this because the possibility of ever getting Yi in a bucks uniform is not going to happen, and getting lamar, who could be an all star in the east for that team, would be a great consolation. and farmar would be a great backup to mo williams.

    PG – Fisher/Crittenton/Carl
    SG – Kobe/Evans/vujacic
    SF – Simmons/Walton/Vlad
    PF – Yi/Cook/Turiaf
    C – Bynum/Kwame/Mihm

    What do you think?

  • kyler_hay

    aight everybody this is my new name i was the true laker fan b4

  • kyler_hay

    aight cryus can i entered this gm thing

  • lakerfan81

    rpoc

    I agree with you about JO. But I do not think Indy is quite as desperate as Minny was. That may (will?) change sometime during the season. If you want that trade, you will have to be patient and wait for at least a few months into the season. Plus you have to remember that when All star caliber players are traded, the trade comes from ownership; the GMs are just used to finalize the details. For instance it was Taylor that wanted to move Garnett for Al jefferson. They were losing money because they were not winning and they needed to cut salary right away and Al Jefferson is the best young low post prospect in the league and could sell tickets. McHale was just told to fill in the rest of the details. Same thing with Shaq. Dr. Buss said he could nto afford to pay both Kobe abd Shaq max contracts so he told Mitch to move him. It will be the same thing if (when?) JO is moved. It will be the Pacers ownership that makes the decision not Larry Bird.

  • lakerfan81

    rpoc:

    Bird here: tweet tweet tweet. I still want LO and Bynum. Hell I’ll be nice and throw in Murphy for Brown if you like. Besides I think I can get Jefferson, Kristic and Williams from NJ. Actually they are beeping in right now. I gotta go.

  • lakerfan81

    ceballos-neverforget

    Bucka Fo: If Yi does not want to come to traning camp then I will do that trade if you throw in a 2008 1st rnd pick.

    Ok heres the problem with that trade for the Lakers. You are going to trade the Lakers second best player and starting PG (or at least a player that will get sharing starting minutes since Fisher can probably only realistically play about 25 minuts a game) for an unproven lottery pick in Yi, a back up center, and Bobby Simmons. the Lakers woudl then be relying on two players, Yi and Crittenton, that have never played an NBA game before to play quality minutes and produce. That move would set the Lakers into rebuild mode completely thus forcing them to trade Kobe, otherwise it does not make any sense.

  • lakerfan81

    All right I have to go. Its almost 9 here (I live in NE) and I have better things to do on a saturday night. Ok I’m married so I don’t but I am still going.

  • Rpoc

    [quote comment="12208"]rpoc

    I agree with you about JO. But I do not think Indy is quite as desperate as Minny was. That may (will?) change sometime during the season. If you want that trade, you will have to be patient and wait for at least a few months into the season. Plus you have to remember that when All star caliber players are traded, the trade comes from ownership; the GMs are just used to finalize the details. For instance it was Taylor that wanted to move Garnett for Al jefferson. They were losing money because they were not winning and they needed to cut salary right away and Al Jefferson is the best young low post prospect in the league and could sell tickets. McHale was just told to fill in the rest of the details. Same thing with Shaq. Dr. Buss said he could nto afford to pay both Kobe abd Shaq max contracts so he told Mitch to move him. It will be the same thing if (when?) JO is moved. It will be the Pacers ownership that makes the decision not Larry Bird.[/quote]
    Response to Bird:

    You guys are not so hot with your season ticket holders either with the recent disappointments.

    You can sell this new core to them. Remember Walsh was the guy who brought JO here in the first place. If Walsh said he loves Bynum, he has credibility from his track record. He also got Reggie Miller.

    You’re also saving your owner money while letting a disgruntled star go to a different conference for a chance to resurrect his career. The not using the MLE to save money is from the ownership isn’t it?

    Meanwhile some of your moves were overpaying to get Ike and firing Isiah Thomas to piss off JO, Bird.

    By waiting, you’re only delaying the inevitable. Trades done at the last minute don’t yield great results.

    Signed Cupcakes.

  • Faith

    KLefwish,

    Interesting first trade. Gonna have to look into it some more, some game numbers and all that. But def interesting.

    Trade 2, no way. As Joe Dumars, I just can’t see trading a guy I signed long term because I like his promise and a definite impact maker in Rasheed.

  • Faith

    Ceballos-Neverforget

    Interesting trade.

    As the gm of the Bucks, I know there’s no way I can talk Yi into playing for us, and we’d get a good inside presence in LO to play with Redd.

    As the Mitch K: Dan Gadzuric and Bobby Simmons? Really?

    It’s definitely going to be under consideration.

  • Faith

    Unfortunately I can’t look every minute, I’ll be travelling to Palm Springs tonight. But I’ll be checking in so keep it coming :-)

    Good stuff guys!

  • BringDFishBack

    [quote comment="12203"]bringDfishback:

    Dumars: Nazr Mohammed is off limits, we have no intention of moving him.

    Jazz FO: we have no intention of moving Boozer even for someone as talented as McGrady. You can’t run a pick and roll with McGrady and Williams.

    Houston FO: We are not interested in moving McGrady or Battier. We feel Battier is one of the best roll players in the league and are not interested in moving him at this time. THough Davis is a special talent and one of the best PG’s in the league we are not interested in trading McGrady for him. He is injured more the McGrady is. Also we already have 12 PG (or whatever absurdly large number it is now) and do not need anymore more. But hey maybe we will just trade Yao since we got Francis now Yao will never get a post entry pass anyways.

    GS FO: Oh sorry we were on vacation and never even got a call. Maybe if you tried to make smaller/simpler trades all of the parties involved would find out about it. Oh and we are not moving Baron Davis. Our team and Coach are designed to run up and down the court and we need a PG that can facilitate such an offense. Besides Damn it we still want Garnett. Or at least J Richardson back.[/quote]

    aight, and your judging? These have to be some of the worst descions ever made. It is known GS is shopping b-diddy because they have monta. Then you make stupid descions based on your biases of francis and that the warriors wont make a trade cuz they want kg or jrich. Finally, it is also known the pistons are shopping all of their centers because they have 1 too many.

    Im sorry, but seriously?

  • ceballos-neverforget

    Lakerfan81…good constructive criticism. I agree it would seem like a rebuilding mode, but lets assume we can do this without giving up farmar too:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1710~1022~3214~617~1016&teams=13~13~13~15~15&te=&cash=

    We do lamar and vlad, who we wouldnt miss, and keep farmar which is the more immediate backup to fisher. You’re right, farmar would be too risky to lose with fish’s limited minutes.

    I understand the biggest skepticism is losing lamar for a rookie, but consider this: We go into the season with the current roster, we’re not getting better and we’re only getting one year older. The thing about Yi is just because he’s young does not mean he’s a project like bynum is. He’d be immediate help, has great inside touch, and his presence in LA goes beyond numbers. He’d be a hometown favorite immediately(honestly i think its the same reason we drafted sun yue).

    This creates a damned if we do, damned if we don’t attitude. What makes this trade intriguing is the fact that Bucks FO would want to take a wait and see approach before discussing this trade; just like you mentioned. With the KG trade exhausted, and if JO or artest cant happen, there’s no way we shouldnt seriously consider this trade.

    I ask for a little speculation on your part lakerfan81. Assume its after training camp and Yi’s reps are still stalled with the Bucks, and JO and artest arent on their way to LA. Keeping this team as is makes them no more of a lock then would shipping in Yi, simmons and gadzuric for odom and change(vlad in this case). But it at least creates hope with the package of bobby simmons(way underrated) and Yi, with a good backup in gadzuric.

    I think by the beginning of training camp, Kobe would actually look favorably at this trade when its compared to the current roster. It’s not the lightning-bolt blockbuster names like he’d hoped for, but it shows a step forward.

    simmons – high quality starter with a great touch, great athleticism and better defense.
    Yi – a lottery player with low post scoring ability who will also help build toward a playoff run for years down the road.
    Gadzuric – the bench energy player that we need

    let me know what you think of this explanation.

  • ceballos-neverforget

    well since lakerfan81 left, maybe faith can help me gauge the validity of the revised idea that has vlad instead of farmar?

    heck it could be anyone else really since LO is the major piece.

  • cooleo24
  • cyrus

    IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
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    4-Try to respond to each offer in separate posts, for example, don’t counter to 3 offers made by 3 different Fantasy GMs in one post.

    The Judge panel will review all final offers between now and August 24.

    Have a lot of fun.

  • http://theworldvoice.com LUUUUKE

    EY READ THIS ITS THE PERFECT PLAN!!!

    K first off I stop listening to anything Jim Buss has to say. If he doesn’t like it he can fire me.

    Second, offer Andrew Bynum, Kwame, Radmanavic, Indiana’s choice of Farmar or Crittenton, next years 1st round draft pick, and cash for Jermaine O’neal. I would throw in the rest of our picks next year if that’s what it takes to get them to do it.

    I would encourage Kobe to call Jermaine and ask him to push for a trade to LA to make thigns easier since they have a good relationship.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~3002~1016~615&teams=11~11~11~11~13&te=&cash=11:13

    When i used the trade machine i just inserted farmar but I would let indian choose between him and crittenton

    Why Indy would do it: Bynum has the potential to be an all star very soon and he’s only 19. He’s a great center piece for a new younger pacer team. They get cap space after next year with Kwame’s expiring contract which is an excellent tool to help them get more help. Farmar or Critt are both young and have equally high potential to become antoher deron williams type player, great for their youth movement. Radmanavic had a great season w/ the clippers before he came to the Lakers and got injured so he if healthy adds a 3 point threat and a good wing man especially in the weak east. Plus they get 1 or all of our picks next year which they can use on more young talent. Jermaine’s trade value is decreasing as he ages and it’s better to trade him now then lose him for nothing if he opts out. He is also injury prone and not worth bynum and odom.

    Why we would do it: We keep odom and have an insane threesome in Mamba, Odom, and Jermaine. Bynum has potential but we can’t wait for him to develop when we have the best player in history in his prime right now. he also seems to lack the passion and emotion needed to contend w/ the likes of d howard and amare. Kwame is garbage and we are glad to get rid of him. We lose either farmar or critt which is a shame but we’d still have the other and as far as i’m concerned they have equal potential. Radmanavic is a space cadet and is not needed. Yes, we lose 1 or all picks but we wouldnt need them if we have KB LO and JO. Most importantly this would appease the fans and Kobe.

    If this trade happens it would likely entice vets like chris webber or posey to come to the lakers.

    Whether the JO trade goes down or not I would heavily pursue both of those two vets b/c w/ or w/o JO their help is needed. If both want to sign w/ the lakers i would choose posey because he is younger.

    IF the JO deal falls through i would try to get artest and justin williams (salary matching purposes) for kwame, farmar or critt, and our 1st round pick next year. If needed, i would give them all our picks next year.

    Why Sac would do it: Artest is a hot head and they need to rebuild and get cap space w/ Kwame. They also seem to be looking to trade bibby so they get a nice young pg in farmar or critt.

    Why we would do it: Artest is a beast and his fire and passion is needed desperately on this team. I would love to have seen what he would have done to Raja Bell if he was on the team when bell clotheslined Kobe. Kwame is trash and expendable and losing farmar or critt is ok b/c we’d still have the other one.

    If none of these things work I would let it be known throughout the league that I am open to hearing any offers they have for the whole team except kobe LO, Fish and Luke. Yes, I would put the entire rest of the team on the trading block.

    If nothing happens i would personally sit down w/ kobe and try to explain to him how i did everything in my power to make the team better.

    If still nothing happens i would step down b/c, unlike mitch, i know when to quit.
    I would get all of these moves done as soon as possible so by training camp we’d be improved and able to build chemistry.

  • cyrus

    [quote comment="12207"]aight cryus can i entered this gm thing[/quote]

    kyler_hay(aka, TrueLakersFan) go ahead and post your proposal. What are you waiting for?

  • fatty

    As part of the judging panel, I just want everyone to understand how this process is growing. Its all part of an education for all of us.

    Watch carefully how the panel is questioning and how others are responding to the questions. One day does not a GM make. You have 7 days to define, improve, and convince us, you have what it takes to be the Lakers GM.

    Mitch has to convince other GM’s that this is the best deal not for the Lakers, but the team he wants to trade to. Trades don’t happen in a day. As the week goes on, we hope you improve in your skills in understanding how trades are made and what it takes to get it done. As you grow, we are growing as well. Some of you have taught me a few things already that I didn’t realize.

    Like Cyrus said, the creator of “So you think your better than Mitch”. You have until August 24. Today is just the starting point. Already, some of you have grown in your presentations.

    Keep it up. Its going to be a great week.

    Fatty (alias, Bird, Maloof, etc….)

  • Shaq786

    4-WAY Trade (LAL/MIL/IND/GSW):

    LAL trades: ODOM, Javaris C., V.Rad, Maurice evans, farmar, Sasha, Brian Cook, Aaron Mckie (3Mil/ one year), Rights to Sun Yue, Rights to Marc Gasol, 3 MILLION CASH,’08 first round pick, ’09 second round pick,’10 first round pick, and ’08 second round pick
    LAL Recieves: Baron Davis, Monta Ellis, J.O, and Danny Granger

    MIL trades: Dan Gadzuric, Charlie Villanueva, Ruben Patterson (S$T, 6mill/1 year), Yi
    MIL Receives: ODOM, ’08 first round pick, and ’08 second round pick

    IND trades: Jermaine Oneal and Danny Granger
    IND Recives: Kwame, Ruben Patterson, Aaron Mckie (3Mil/ one year)Andris Biedrins, and C.V.

    GSW Trades: Baron Davis, Andris Biedrins, Monta Ellis
    GSW Recieves: YI, Javaris C., farmar, Sasha, V.rad, Dan Gadzuric, Maurice evans, Brian Cook, Rights to Sun Yue, Rights to Marc Gasol, ’10 first round pick, ’09 second round pick, and 3 MILLION CASH

    *there is a slight chance that BYC rules (because of cook) might interfere in this, but it won’t be inforced because GSW has a 10 million dollar exception from the J-Rich trade

    ~THAN SIGN CHRIS WEBBER for one million/one year, or a multiple year contract for a million a year if he prefers)!!!

    Line Up:

    Baron Davis/Derek Fisher/Monta Ellis
    Kobe/Monta Ellis/Coby Karl
    Danny Granger/Walton
    J.O/Webber/Turaif
    Bynum/Mihm/(Webber)

    Reasons:

    ~LAL would do this because they will become a championship team and even if they don’t win in the playoffs, they will get the 2 players of Kobe’s choice (Baron and JO). There is almost no chance this team will lose to any team, because their starters and bench are so strong. LAL has a great future with a great young players (Ellis/Karl/Granger/Turaif/Bynum). We also have a great chance to make a strong run for years to come, probably until Kobe retires.

    ~GSW would do this because they get a younger promising point gaurds, rights to Sun Yue who was not disapointing in the summer league (some critics call him the “chinese majic”) and who is very versatile (he can play the 1, 2, and 3.), rights to Marc Gasol,’10 first round pick, ’09 second round pick, and OF COURSE, the young and promising YI (who is young and has an incredible upside). Golden state can start rebuilding after they rid the other contracts.

    ~IND gets young and proven pf C.V, a young a proven pf/c (A.B. who avg. almost a double double for the season) a promising young pg, a promising true center, and ALL expiring contracts. This is exactly what they need to start their rebuilding process.

    ~MIl gets Odom, who would have been an ALL STAR last season if he didnt get injured, they het to dump Gadzurics contract, and they also get picks. They will have a strong 5 coming from the east (mo/redd/simmons/odom/Bogut).

    Salaries (most from hoopsworld.com):

    JO- 19,710,000
    Kobe- 19,490,625
    B. Davis – 16,440,000
    D-Fish- 4,666,666 (aprox. b/c…a 3-year/$14 million contract.)
    Walton – 4,000,000
    Mihm- 2,500,000 (aprox. i heard he signed 4mill/2year)
    Granger- 1,516,800
    Webber- 1,000,000
    Ronny- 770,610
    Monta Ellis – 770,610
    Coby- 500,000 (aprox. i know its smaller than Ronny’s contract)
    ——————-
    $71,365,311

    The Following is from Insidehoops.com:

    The tax level for the 2007-08 season has been set at $67.865 million. Any team whose team salary exceeds that figure will pay a $1 tax for each $1 by which it exceeds $67.865 million.

    The mid-level exception is $5.356 million for the 2007-08 season and the minimum team salary, which is set at 75% of the Salary Cap, is $41.723 million.

    Salaray Cap:2007-08 $55.630 million

    —————————————————–

    I have to be under $72,865,000 ($67.865 million. 5 mil.)
    …. the salaries came out to $71,365,311… which is less!!!

  • kobe24mvp

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1998~3002~2421~615&teams=11~11~11~11~11~13&te=&cash=

    this is our most possible trade that will happen for us,considering the circumstances and what not.
    (bynum/brown/farmar/cook/vujacic for JO)throw in a 1st rd pick,it doesnt matter because we would be getting like the 25 pick so no big deal.indiana gets expiring contracts for next year when alot of free agents wil be available(kwame,vujacic)they get young talent for re-building(bynum,farmar,cook,vujacic?)and they have been getting shooters and cook can shoot…vujacic,and farmar arnt bad.we get a pf/c taht will help sure up our D up front for sure,so we would have addressed our needs preety well.and if miami is able to make a trade to get bibby than artest is definateley available after that happens so we could do this…
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3197~1016~25~3000&teams=23~23~13~13&te=&cash=
    inthis deal we would add a 2nd rd pick and future first maybe.
    this would sure up all of our problems on offense and defense it would suck because we would lose both of our young pg.but with the team we will have for the next 5 yrs it wouldnt matter we could be goin on a 5 peat or something.douby has played in the league atleast and is a big guard at 6’3″.but this trade is more unlikey due to the fact we are in same division and conf but thats why i say miami trade for bibby would have to happen first.

    then we can go and sign c.webber with vet minimum,he would probly want to join this team eith just kb,o,jo,d-fish.but if we get artest than he would sign faster than an e-mail being sent to moseone.lol.with the rest of the MLE we could sign a vet for cheap because again with this team who wouldnt come here.our team would be with us getting artest…………..without artest….

    c-JO/c.webber/c.mihm c-JO/C.mihm/c.webber veteran n e were
    pf-LO/r.turiaf pf-LO/turiaf
    sf-artest/l.walton sf-L.walton/vlad/
    sg-KB/mo.evans/coby sg-KB/mo.evans/coby
    pg-D-Fish/q.douby/veteran pg-D-fish/j.critt

    i think either team would be contenders..obviously the team with artest would be unstoppable in my opion,but the the w/o artest would have to be one to be reckoned with also,both teams would be deep and experienced,added young players can be selected later.but this is my final GM of the day stuff i thought about this one for a lil bit i think it is the best i can come up with.thanx thelakersnation.com staff(cyrus/fatty/faith)for bringing this up i was thinkin about this GM for a day stuff also lol.

  • Shaq786

    ATTENTION ALL JUDGES, PLEASE DISREGARD MY FIRST TRADE (THE 3-WAY)…

    I forgot to include walton’s contract, so that puts me almost 9 million over the taxing mark… i broke the 5 mil rule.

    so just judge the second trade suggestion (the 4-way)

    you are welcome to look at the first one for fun though

  • BEC

    As I look at the trades, I and many others have proposed the JO for Bynum/Brown/Cook/Sasha/Crit trade too with slight variations to it, like adding or removing Farmar or cash or picks or this and that. This is realistically the only option that the Lakers have at the moment to put a winning team on the floor that can CONTEND. Anything that cant is meaningless.

    To the staff,
    I personally think and others too, that this is the best option and REALISTIC option available for the Lakers. Is this competition based on that alone or much more on creativity like throwing out a 10 team 50 player deal that can work? If its based on having a realistic option/trade and a trade that improves our team the most to contend, you might have a lot of winners because this JO deal seems to be the only one that fits the criteria.

  • Lakers724

    OK, here’s my trade:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1998~3002~1016~615~489~2797&teams=1~11~11~11~11~13~11~11&te=&cash=

    Along with the Pacers recieving the Hawks 1st round pick, and Hawks recieving the Lakers 1st and 2nd round picks, including the Pacers 2nd round pick, to sweeten the deal!

  • yetanotherexpert

    Lakers finished 42-40 last year, WITH injuries. Odom missed 26 games, Walton missed 22 games, Vlad missed 27 games, Kobe missed 5, and Mihm missed the whole season. In fact ONLY Smush Parker and Andrew Bynum played all 82 games.

    The Lakers are NOT very deep and to have that many players out and still get 42 wins is pretty darn remarkable. But people don’t think of that. Our expectations are so high that we expect nothing but a championship every year.

    Now, EVEN WITH ALL OF THOSE INJURIES… let’s take a look at their losses.

    Of their 40 losses, 23 games were decided by single digits and 10 games were by 5 points or less.
    5 losses were also in Over Time with 2 ending up being by more than 5 points. (6 losses were from the same two teams – Phoenix and Dallas)

    Those 12 extra wins would have put the team in the 5 seed in the playoffs against Utah. And Pheonix would have played Denver. This would have been much more favorable matchup for us and the Lakers were 2-1 against Utah last year (3-1 if you count the preseason). Our 1 loss was by 6 points, and our 2 wins were by 30 and 8. The Suns would have been in the bottom bracket going against the Nuggets, then the Spurs (we know how that turned out). We would have gone against the Jazz, then Golden State and would have probably lost to the Spurs in the finals (though we did go 2-1 against San Antonio last year so who knows).

    My point is that this scenario is NOT that far-fetched with the team as it is. Yes a few trades could make the team much better but it actually IS possible that even if no moves were done, a healthy Laker team with D-Fish could perform significantly better than last year’s team. How many more wins would we have had if Odom and Walton weren’t out a combined 48 games? How about not getting a single minute from Mihm all season? I know it is a cliché but our injuries really DID kill us.

    With that said, let’s see what we could do to make us an immediate contender.

    First, we need a Defensive presense. This might actually be the most important piece because imagine how much more explosive Kobe could be on offense if he wasn’t rushing back to carry the team on defense too. I can’t even count how many easy points we give up when Kobe drives to the basket, doesn’t get a foul and the ball is thrown up court on a fast break. It can’t be just me that gets unbelievably frustrated at this. Acquiring an inside shot blocker ALONE could easily cause a 10 point swing in every game this season. And who is better than Marcus Camby? Defensive Player of the Year – 11.2 ppg, 11 rpg, and a league leading 3.3 blocks per game. Throw in the fact that he played 70 games and shoots 72.9% from the line, and you have a single player that would make an IMMEDIATE impact.

    The bigger question is what Denver would be willing to get in return for Camby. They have Nene that could easily step up for them at center (and scored more points per game than Camby did anyway). Kenyon Martin was injured all last season and will be returning but with his $13 million salary, Iverson’s $19 million, Carmelo’s $13 million, and Camby’s $11 million, they may be pretty open to pulling in some additional depth, lowering their salary cap, and capitalizing on the absolute peak trade value that Camby currently has. They can’t move Martin because no one wants to take on that kind of cap burden for someone who sat a whole season. Nene and Carmelo are 24 and 23 years old respectively. If Denver can pull in some young talented players now, they should be very competitive for a long time. So the opportunity is perfect to pry Camby away.

    For the Lakers who are in a “win now” situation with Kobe in his peak years, not only would acquiring Camby give them an instant upgrade, it would temporarily weaken a team that they lost to twice last year.

    Laker fans get caught up in taking the best player on the board rather than the right player to help us win. Jermaine O’Neal is a fantastic player, also played about 70 games (69), had about 3 blocks per game (2.94) and 9.6 rebounds. Where he separates himself from Camby is his 19.4 ppg. But keep in mind that JO will make $18 million this year to Camby’s $11 million, and I’m pretty darn sure we wouldn’t have to give up Bynum AND Odom to get Camby like Indiana is demanding for JO. Also, would Camby have scored more than his 11.2 ppg if he didn’t have Carmelo and Iverson on the team? You bet he would have.

    Is JO better than Camby? Maybe. But being a GM means getting the right player for the right price.

    At point guard, it is hard to imagine how huge of an upgrade it is to have D-Fish return. Yes he is talented and was a big reason why we won our 3 championships (what would have happened had Fish not hit the game winner in the 2004 Western Converence Semis with 0.4 seconds to go?), but even more importantly, this is a guy that provides immediate leadership. He knows the triangle offense, he doesn’t turn the ball over, he can find open players, and he is someone that Kobe trusts. Add that to his good 3P% and you have someone that instantly upgrades the Lakers. How many times did us Laker fans pound our couches because Smush Parker turned the ball over, and over, and over… I’m convinced that Smush Parker by himself cost us at least 4-5 wins last year. Kobe HAD to score 40 -50 points just to make up for the darn turnovers and keep it close.

    The second piece to the puzzle I believe would be Ron Artest. At $7.5 million this year, his and Camby’s salary combined equals that of Jermaine ONeal. Besides the 18.8 ppg and adding another 74% free throw shooter to the team, he was tied for 2nd in the league in steals.

    I’m only going to say this once… great defense creates offense!!! Imagine Kobe sprinting down the court on a fast break due to a steal or blocked shot. Tell me who can take Kobe on a fast break? Between Camby’s 3 blocks per game and Artest’s 2 steals per game, that alone could create 10 points (or a possible 20 point swing because the opponent wouldn’t be scoring), which adds 10-15 wins to our pathetic, injury-riddled, team of last year.

    There is a concern about Artest’s attitude but let the Zen master deal with that. He can’t be worse than Rodman or the Shaq/Kobe saga.

    So here we go.
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~617~25~2394~1726~125~2444&teams=7~7~23~13~7~13~13~23&te=&cash=

    Lakers get:
    Marcus Camby, Ron Artest, and John Salmons

    Denver gets:
    Andrew Bynum, Kevin Martin, Kwame Brown

    Sacramento Kings get:
    Lamar Odom, J.R. Smith

    Now I’ll tell you why this works.

    For DENVER:

    Denver wants to go young and trim their bloated cap. With a 19 year old 7-0 center in Bynum, they’ll have a great young player to backup Nene. Let’s face it, there is no guarantee Bynum will be a star, especially without Kareem mentoring him. But right now his trade value is pretty high so we need to deal him now. Kevin Martin is a 6-7, 24 year-old star in the making. He scored 20.2 ppg for Sacramento and gives Denver a great replacement for Iverson if he gets hurt and when he retires. That is a core of 4 guys (Nene, Martin, Carmelo, Bynum) that are all 24 years old or under. Denver will also pick up Kwame Brown’s contract, which greatly helps the Lakers but there is only 1 year left on it, which means that even after having all of these great young players, Denver will free up $9 million on the cap next year (though they may need it to resign Kevin Martin and Bynum, thereby securing their future). Meanwhile Kwame is still a 6-11 big man that can be counted on to take a pounding (and some fouls) this season. He had 8.4 ppg last year for the Lakers so they’ll still get some use out of him.

    For SACRAMENTO:

    Sacramento clearly wants to get rid of Artest but doesn’t want to get nothing for him. Giving up Kevin Martin might usually be a tough sell, but they get Lamar Odom in return. Odom certainly has the potential of averaging 20 points per game on a team that doesn’t feature Kobe Bryant. And he’ll have Bibby to dish him the ball. Sacramento will also get Denver’s top shooter, J.R. Smith. At 39% behind the arc it adds another threat to their arsenal. And at a mere $2 million and change, it is hard to pass up. The Lakers take John Salmon’s $4 million dollar contract off their hands, a welcome favor for Sacramento when John only started 19 games last year.

    For LA:

    I think I’ve already described enough why acquiring Camby and Artest will make an immediate impact for the Lakers but in terms of this deal. We get good value for Bynum, and get the DPOY to take his place. We reluctantly give up Odom but bringing in Artest as another solid point scorer and defensive stopper more than offsets it. We also unload Kwame’s contract and pick up a slightly lesser contract in John Salmons. John isn’t a total throw away. He averaged 8.5 ppg, and has been known to sick a 3-pointer when given the chance. The Lakers will have Camby on contract for 3 years, Artest for 2, and Salmons for 4. But let’s be honest here, about 4 years is the shelf life for Kobe at his peak. This should be enough to get us to the top 1 or 2 more times, and then rebuild again in 3-4 years. Kobe will still be good in 4 years (better than most players), he just wont be as good as he is now.

    I believe there still may be the possibility of signing Chris Webber, though it would not be required or dependant on this deal. We still have options at Power Forward. Ronny showed a lot of heart towards the end of the season and in the playoffs last year.

    LA’s lineup.
    Guard- Derek Fisher / Javaris Crittenton / Jordan Farmar
    Shooting guard – Kobe Bryant / Sasha Palovic / Coby Carl
    Small Forward – Ron Artest / Luke Walton / John Salmons
    Power Forward – (Chris Webber) / Ronny Turiaf / Brian Cook
    Center- Marcus Camby / Chris Mihm

  • Shaq786

    Although i posted a fancy trade, I think the most likely trade is Kwame, Bynum, Sasha, cook, Farmar, Aaron Mckie (3mil/ one year, 3-5 MIL in CASH, and a first round pick… for Jermaine, darell Armstrong, and David Harrison.

    This is because, Armsotrong said he doesnt want to stay if Jermaine is leaving, and Harrison would add to their excess of Centers. Also IND can not carry that many players into the season!

    With this trade they can waive Mckie, and they get some assistance in buying out un-needed players.

  • http://www.clubnetshoops.com Klewfish

    Alright my first trade of Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar, Brian Cook for Andre Miller, Stephen Hunter is under review.

    My second offer was rejected, but I am willing to come back with another counter offer.

    Lakers trade LAMAR ODOM, VLADAMIR RADMANOVIC, ANDREW BYNUM, SASHA VUJACIC for RASHEED WALLACE, TAYSHAUN PRINCE, ANTONIO MCDYESS

    The Lakers do this because they get 3 proven veterans that play defense at positions that Lakers sorely need defense at. With Prince guarding the other teams best player, Kobe doesn’t have to be the primary scorer on offense, and primary perimeter defender on the other. He can focus on offense and help defense. They get 2 good defenders at the PF in Sheed and McDyess, and this adds depth to the Lakers squad.
    The Pistons do this to help them retool for the future. They can start building their future core with Rodney Stuckey, Aaron Afflalo and Andrew Bynum. They still have enough immediate help with Billups, Hamilton, Vlad, Odom, Nazr to compete in the East immediately. It makes sense for both teams.

    Use the remainder of the MLE on Danny Fortson

    Lakers New Lineup

    Andre Miller/Derek Fisher/Javaris Crittenton
    Kobe Bryant/Maurice Evans
    Tayshaun Prince/Luke Walton
    Rasheed Wallace/Antonio McDyess/Ronny Turiaf
    Chris Mihm/Stephen Hunter/Danny Fortson

  • truelakerfan32

    trade andrew bynum,kwame brown,sasha vujacic,vladimir romanvic,brian cook,2009 1st round pick for jermaine oneal,david harrison

    trade lamar odom,maurice evans,2011 first round pick for john salmons,ron artest,future 2nd round pick

    sign chris webber to a vet min

    use 5 mill luxury tax for sasha palovic

    pg:derek fisher/javaris crittenton/jordan farmar
    sg:kobe bryant/sasha palovic/coby carl
    sf:ron artest/john salmons
    pf:jermaine oneal/chris webber/ronny turiaf
    c:chris mihm/david harrison

  • truelakerfan32

    The Sacramento trade helps us because ron artest is a good peremiter defender and he would be lakers 3rd scoring option,and hes big strong.john salmons could play guard and foward,he could score and pass.

    And The Indiana trade works for cause we get jermaine oneal are 2nd scoring option,he gives the lakers interior defense,and rebounding.could play PF or C.david harrison could develop a post up game and hes 7 feet and hes big.

  • Shaq786

    truelakerfan32, i dont mean any disrespect why would take IND take on V.rads contract?…. when they can make do, with the other players mentioned?

    THEY ARE TRYING TO REBUILD…

    Maurice evans can do whatever John Salmons can… so it come down lamar and ron…. scottie or rodman?

    im sticking with lamar… eventhough i want artest more than any plaer, because we can get him withouth giving up lamar, or bynum, and get into a very competetive level…

    if they knock down that deal with miami, they will be VERY interest in kwame, because with KWAME’s AND J-Will’s contracts expiring, they will get under the cap… where they can get an impact player in the offseason…

    KWAME, COOK, FARMAR/SASHA, AND 1ST….. for Shareef A.R. and RON ARTEST!!!

  • Shaq786

    I realized that my 4-way trade isn’t fair for GSW so, I’m going to switch Monta Ellis for Marco Belinelli… and also 3 MILLION to 5 MILLION dollars.

    CORRECTED… 4-WAY Trade (LAL/MIL/IND/GSW):

    LAL trades: ODOM, Javaris C., V.Rad, Maurice evans, farmar, Sasha, Brian Cook, Aaron Mckie (3Mil/ one year), Rights to Sun Yue, Rights to Marc Gasol, 5 MILLION CASH,’08 first round pick, ‘09 second round pick,’10 first round pick, and ‘08 second round pick
    LAL Recieves: Baron Davis, Marco Belinelli, J.O, and Danny Granger

    MIL trades: Dan Gadzuric, Charlie Villanueva, Ruben Patterson (S$T, 6mill/1 year), and rights to Yi
    MIL Receives: ODOM, ‘08 first round pick, and ‘08 second round pick

    IND trades: Jermaine Oneal and Danny Granger
    IND Recives: Kwame, Ruben Patterson, Aaron Mckie (3Mil/ one year)Andris Biedrins, and C.V.

    GSW Trades: Baron Davis, Andris Biedrins, Marco Belinelli
    GSW Recieves: rights to YI, Javaris C., farmar, Sasha, V.rad, Dan Gadzuric, Maurice evans, Brian Cook, Rights to Sun Yue, Rights to Marc Gasol, ‘10 first round pick, ‘09 second round pick, and 5 MILLION CASH

    *there is a slight chance that BYC rules (because of cook) might interfere in this, but it won’t be inforced because GSW has a 10 million dollar exception from the J-Rich trade

    ~THAN SIGN CHRIS WEBBER for one million/one year, or a multiple year contract for a million a year if he prefers)!!!

    Line Up:

    Baron Davis/Derek Fisher/(Karl)
    Kobe/Marco Belinelli/Coby Karl
    Danny Granger/Walton/(Karl)
    J.O/Webber/Turaif
    Bynum/Mihm/(Webber)/(turaif)

    Reasons:

    ~LAL would do this because they will become a championship team and even if they don’t win in the playoffs, they will get the 2 players of Kobe’s choice (Baron and JO). Although its hard for me to trade Javaris, because i truly feel like he will be something special, this new team has almost no chance that they will lose to any team, because their starters and bench are so strong. LAL has a great future with a great young players (Karl/Belinelli/Granger/Turaif/Bynum). We also have a great chance to make a strong run for years to come, probably until Kobe retires.

    ~GSW would do this because they get a younger promising point gaurds, rights to Sun Yue who was not disapointing in the summer league (some critics call him the “chinese majic”) and who is very versatile (he can play the 1, 2, and 3.), rights to Marc Gasol,’10 first round pick, ‘09 second round pick, and OF COURSE, the young and promising YI (who is young and has an incredible upside). Golden state can start rebuilding after they rid the other contracts.

    ~IND gets young and proven pf C.V, a young a proven pf/c (A.B. who avg. almost a double double for the season) a promising young pg, a promising true center, and ALL expiring contracts. This is exactly what they need to start their rebuilding process.

    ~MIl gets Odom, who would have been an ALL STAR last season if he didnt get injured, they het to dump Gadzurics contract, and they also get picks. They will have a strong 5 coming from the east (mo/redd/simmons/odom/Bogut).

    Salaries (most from hoopsworld.com):

    JO- 19,710,000
    Kobe- 19,490,625
    B. Davis – 16,440,000
    D-Fish- 4,666,666 (aprox. b/c…a 3-year/$14 million contract.)
    Walton – 4,000,000
    Mihm- 2,500,000 (aprox. i heard he signed 4mill/2year)
    Granger- 1,516,800
    Marco B.- 1,345,800
    Webber- 1,000,000
    Ronny- 770,610
    Coby- 500,000 (aprox. i know its smaller than Ronny’s contract)
    ——————-
    $71,940,501

    The Following is from Insidehoops.com:

    The tax level for the 2007-08 season has been set at $67.865 million. Any team whose team salary exceeds that figure will pay a $1 tax for each $1 by which it exceeds $67.865 million.

    The mid-level exception is $5.356 million for the 2007-08 season and the minimum team salary, which is set at 75% of the Salary Cap, is $41.723 million.

    Salaray Cap:2007-08 $55.630 million

    —————————————————–

    I have to be under $72,865,000 ($67.865 mil. plus 5 mil.)
    …. the salaries came out to $71,940,501… which is less!!!

  • http://cokespill.com/english/band/jonny.html joninjapan

    ok so everyone is basically going after either JO or Artest. .

    herer’s my two cents

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~1998~1031~434&teams=26~26~26~13&te=&cash=26:13

    AK-47 for kwame, Bcook, mo evans and cash (to buy cook out of his contract) and a draft pic if neccesary

    what i have to consider as a GM is that, even with kwame’s 9 million coming off the books in 08, we still don’t fall back under the cap. now, i’m working with the assumption that we’re not going to resign kwame at 9 million next year. therefore, we can only use kwame’s contract to get a decent player who is worth their weight in green this year.

    enter AK-47

    why would he do it?

    he used to be second option behind karl malone. . now he’s the third and even fourth option behind boozer, okur and d-will. . the oppertunity for him to come to the lakers and be that second (well . tied with LO for second) option behind kobe should be appealing to him, plus, he gets one free pass a year from his wife. . and LA definetly gives him more options than Salt Lake haha

    why would the jazz do it?

    i think the jazz do this because it gives them an inside defensive presense (something that okur doesnt give) plus with kwame and sasha/mo evans expiring contract they will actually be under the cap, and therefore be able toget some vetran help if they need to or save it for when deron williams becomes a free agent, plus the addition of mo evans would give them good athleticism at the 2 spot to complement d-will.

    why would the lakers do it?

    besides the kwame contract reason, getting AK to play at PF allows LO to slide up to the 3. . or vice versa, depending on matchups. also, the defensive improvement at the 3 is immense.

    on a slightly darker plus side, even if AK were to miss the odd 20 or so games that he has in the past, luke is more than capable of steping up, and with mihm healthy again and turiaf as emergency cover the lakers need for kwame is even lower than ever.

    on another note next year when lo’s contract expires, we really may have to choose between LO and andrew bynum as thats the year he’s up for his next contract. . in this instance it wikk be some what assuring to know that if we lose LO, we still have AK-47. .

    but seriously, imagine the lineup

    Dfish
    Kobe
    LO
    AK47
    Socks

    all we did was subtract kwame and bcook (dead weight) and mo evans (who i’ll miss)

    and if any jazz gms out there dont think we give up enough, hit me back with an offer that doesnt include kobe, lo, socks or the critter and i’m listening

  • E-ROC

    Trade Jordan Farmar & Mo Evans for Zaza Pachulia. Kwame for Reggie Evans and Eduardo Najera. Sign Hassan Adams and Allan Houston. I would trade Bynum, but Jim Buss told me “no.”

  • E-ROC

    Ummm….scratch Houston and put Ruben Patterson in his place.

  • lakerfan81

    yetanotherexpert

    interesting trade. I will have to think about it. Right now the only problem I see is Kevin Martin. I don’t think Sac will trade him but i will have to think about it before I get back to you with a counter offer.

  • lakerfan81

    bringdfishback

    First of all I was Joking about yao. I just don’t understand the Francis signing. Secondly I have not read anything that would suggest that GS wanted to move Baron Davis. That may change after this season since he will need a contract extension. If you can show me anything that suggests otherwise…. Thirdly, I do not think that Houston would trade McGrady for another PG even one as good as Baron Davis. Its a lateral move at best and then you have chemistry problems etc etc etc. Boozer is not being moved for anyone other than say Tim Duncan. A McGrady/Williams combo does not fit Sloans style of basketball. You are right about Mohammed though. Sorry I was thinking of Maxiel not Mohammed.

    I stated before that the simpler a trade is the more realistic it is. 5 team trades that include so many players, especially players of the caliber of McGrady, Davis, Boozer are not realistic.

  • lakerfan81

    yetanotherexpert

    Maloof here. though I do not particularly want to deal with a division rival I am intrigued by Lamar Odom and JR Smith. However I do not wish to move Martin at this time. Here are two counter offers that I would have to take into consideration.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~617~3~25~1726~125~2444~2793&teams=7~7~23~7~13~13~13~23~23&te=&cash=

    or

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~617~25~3000~2755~1726~125~2444&teams=7~7~23~13~13~13~13~13~23&te=&cash=

    We will just have to wait and see if Denver (Cyrus or Fatty) is interested in either of those trades.

  • Shaq786

    FINAL:

    4-WAY Trade (LAL/MIL/IND/GSW):

    LAL trades: ODOM, V.Rad, Maurice evans, farmar, Sasha, Brian Cook, Aaron Mckie (3Mil/ one year), Rights to Sun Yue, Rights to Marc Gasol, 8 MILLION CASH,’08 first round pick, ‘09 second round pick,’10 first round pick, and ‘08 second round pick
    LAL Recieves: Baron Davis, J.O, and Danny Granger

    MIL trades: Dan Gadzuric, Charlie Villanueva, Ruben Patterson (S$T, 6mill/1 year), and rights to Yi
    MIL Receives: ODOM and ‘08 second round pick

    IND trades: Jermaine Oneal and Danny Granger
    IND Recives: Kwame, Ruben Patterson, Aaron Mckie (3Mil/ one year)rights to YI (a pf/c who is very quick and has a lot of potential), C.V. (a proven, young pf), farmar, 3 Mil in Cash, and ‘08 first round pick.

    GSW Trades: Baron Davis,
    GSW Recieves: Sasha, V.rad, Dan Gadzuric, Maurice evans, Brian Cook, Rights to Sun Yue, Rights to Marc Gasol, ‘10 first round pick, ‘09 second round pick, and 5 MILLION CASH.

    *there is a slight chance that BYC rules (because of cook) might interfere in this, but it won’t be inforced because GSW has a 10 million dollar exception from the J-Rich trade

    ~THAN SIGN CHRIS WEBBER for one million/one year, or a multiple year contract for a million a year if he prefers)!!!

    Line Up:

    Baron Davis/Derek Fisher/(Karl)
    Kobe/Marco Belinelli/Coby Karl
    Danny Granger/Walton/(Karl)
    J.O/Webber/Turaif
    Bynum/Mihm/(Webber)/(turaif)

    Reasons:

    ~LAL would do this because they will become a championship team and even if they don’t win in the playoffs, they will get the 2 players of Kobe’s choice (Baron and JO). Although its hard for me to trade Javaris, because i truly feel like he will be something special, this new team has almost no chance that they will lose to any team, because their starters and bench are so strong. They also become a more balanced team with vets and young players, which has a great future(with Karl/Belinelli/Granger/Turaif/Bynum). We also have a great chance to make a strong run for years to come, probably until Kobe retires.

    ~GSW would do this because they get trade Baron Davis to free up more playing time for Monta Ellis, rights to Sun Yue who was not disapointing in the summer league (some critics call him the “chinese majic”) and who is very versatile (he can play the 1, 2, and 3.), rights to Marc Gasol (who could end up like his brother, but he has a bigger body),’10 first round pick, ‘09 second round pick, and OF COURSE, the young and promising YI (who is young and has an incredible upside). Golden state can start rebuilding after they rid the other contracts. Meanwhile, Dan Gadzuric can definitely help out at center, while Brian Cook and V.rad provide some sharp shooting for GSW. Also they get a stronger bench with Maurice Evans. GSW is hesitant to give Baron Davis an extension, which we can easily offer.

    ~IND gets young and proven pf C.V, a young pf/c with a lot od potential(YI), a promising young pg (farmar), 3 million Cash and ALL expiring contracts. This is exactly what they need to start their rebuilding process.

    ~MIl gets Odom, who would have been an ALL STAR last season if he didnt get injured, they get to dump Gadzurics contract, and they also get picks. They will have a strong 5 coming from the east (mo/redd/simmons/odom/Bogut).

    Salaries (most from hoopsworld.com):

    JO- 19,710,000
    Kobe- 19,490,625
    B. Davis – 16,440,000
    D-Fish- 4,666,666 (aprox. b/c…a 3-year/$14 million contract.)
    Walton – 4,000,000
    Mihm- 2,500,000 (aprox. i heard he signed 5mill/2year)
    Granger- 1,516,800
    Marco B.- 1,345,800
    Webber- 1,000,000
    Ronny- 770,610
    Coby- 500,000 (aprox. i know its smaller than Ronny’s contract)
    ——————-
    $71,940,501

    The Following is from Insidehoops.com:

    The tax level for the 2007-08 season has been set at $67.865 million. Any team whose team salary exceeds that figure will pay a $1 tax for each $1 by which it exceeds $67.865 million.

    The mid-level exception is $5.356 million for the 2007-08 season and the minimum team salary, which is set at 75% of the Salary Cap, is $41.723 million.

    Salaray Cap:2007-08 $55.630 million

    —————————————————–

    I have to be under $72,865,000 ($67.865 mil. plus 5 mil.)
    …. the salaries came out to $71,940,501… which is less!!!

    —————————————————————-

    ~AFTER SAYING ALL OF THAT, I believe the 2 most feasible trades are…

    1.) Bynum, Kwame, Aaron Mckie (S&T, 3mil/ one year), Brian Cook, Sasha, Farmar, 3mil Cash, and a ’08 first round pick… FOR Jermaine Oneal, David Harrison, and Darell Armstrong. (david harrison, is just excess of a center, and darell armstrong said he wants out if Jermaine leaves.)

    2.) Kwame and ’09 first round pick…. for Ron Artest… if the SAC/MIA deal goes down, this deal will be easy to pull off.

  • Lakers724

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1998~3002~1016~2750~615~396~489~2797&teams=1~11~11~11~11~1~13~11~11~11&te=&cash=

    Pacers get their whole future in Bynum, Farmar, Marvin Williams, Farmar, the rest are for salary purposes! Hawks get their scoring/blocking(only for Kwame in blocking) big men in Kwame Brown & Ike Diogu, along with the addition of Lakers 1st & 2nd round picks, and Pacers 2nd round pick! Finally, Lakers get their “BIG 5″ in Kobe, the BEST player in the league, JO as a great 2nd option, Odom as a perfect 3rd option, and if you include them, Walton & Fisher!

  • wasay24

    hows this trade lakerfan81

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2748~617~1016~2421~25~61&teams=23~23~23~23~13~13&te=&cash=

    lakers trade lamar odom, andrew bynum, vlad, and sasha for mike bibby and ron artest

  • Thuggishsteer

    I BELIEVE THIS TRADE WILL SOLVE ALL OUR PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!
    lt?players=981~2748~617~1016~615~1024&teams=11~11~11~11~13~13&te=&cash=

  • nyla

    Hmm…interesting. I haven’t been on the site in a couple days. Sounds like a good challenge. When I get some time, I’ll try to come up with something REALISTIC and come back.

  • Shaq786

    2 most realistic trades that we can pull off…

    1.) Bynum, Kwame, Aaron Mckie (S&T, 3mil/ one year), Brian Cook, Farmar, and a ‘08 first round pick… FOR Jermaine Oneal, and Darell Armstrong. (darell armstrong said he wants out if Jermaine leaves.)

    2.) V.Rad, Sasha, 6-7 MILLION in cash, and ‘09 first round pick…. for Ron Artest (They are considering Udonis right now, V.rad has a much better shot, is more versatile, is the same age, and has 2 more years in the NBA then Udonis does. He also averages the same amount of steals and blocks aproximately as Udonis in half the playing time. His offense is better than Udonis’s as well. In the LAL/SAC trade they get a combo gaurd, a first round pick, and a lot of cash to help them in their rebuilding phase.)

    Line up:

    D-fish/Javaris
    Kobe/Maurice/Coby Karl
    Artest/Walton
    Odom/Webber/Turaif
    J.O./Mihm

  • lakersfan17

    The more realistic trade is this one.I know you guys will hate it but its our only chance that this guy won’t leave us in the near future.And we love you Kobe!(Tears)Thanks for everything!!!
    Trade Kobe to chicago for Gordon and anybody else to make it possible.

  • wasay24

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~3002~1016~515&teams=7~7~7~13&te=&cash=

    this is a perfect trade for the lakers the lakers trade kwame brown jordan farmar vladimir radmonivich 2008 2nd round pick for kenyon martin

    the lakers get another scorer and beast in the middle. Kenyon can be our 3rd option after kobe and lamar.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2789~2421~2444&teams=7~7~13&te=&cash=

    This is a perfect trade for the lakers the lakers trade sasha vujacic and ronny turiaf for jr smith. this is a great trade for both teams the lakers get a flashy guard who is athletic and the nuggets get a great shooter in vujacic and a perfect fit ronny turiaf who can play in a fast tempo offense.

    The last moves i make are that lakers sign chris webber to a vet min webber said he might want to go to the lakers and he wants to go to a contender which the lakers are now. And the lakers sign Devin Brown to a mid level excption

    Guard-fisher/javaris
    SG-Kobe/evans/JR Smith
    SF-Lamar Odom/Luke Walton/Devin Brown
    PF-Kenyon Martin/chris webber/Brian Cook
    C-Andrew Bynum/Chris Mihm

  • LALakers1

    3-WAY Trade (Lakers/Clippers/Seattle Super Sonics):

    Lakers Incoming Players: Corey Maggette & Aaron Williams.

    Clippers Incoming Players: Earl Watson, Nick Collison & Mickael Gelabale.

    Seattle Super Sonics Incoming Players: Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar & Al Thornton.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~3002~1978~2756~1027~497~3237~923&teams=25~25~12~12~12~13~25~13&te=&cash=

    Line Up:

    D-fish/Javaris/Sasha
    Kobe/Evans/Coby Karl
    Maggette/Walton/Radmanovic
    L.O./Cook/Aaron Wiliams
    Bynum/Mihm/Turiaf

    Reasons I found for Team Dealings:

    ~Seattle gets a Expiring contract of 9 mill with Kwame along with current Kurt Thomas 8 Mill, thats 17 mill for Free Agency and they get a young Pg in Jordan Farmar.

    The reason for Seattle is that there looking to clear up cap space and young talent.

    The reason for Clippers is that they are looking for help at the C and Pg positions.

    The reason for Lakers is that there looking for help in a 2nd or 3rd scoring option.

    Teams Reasons:

    ~LAL would do this because they will a second or third scoring option in Maggette.

    ~Clippers would do this because they get help at what there lacking due to injuries since Elton Brand got hurt and Shawn Livingston as well. They would get help at C with Nick Collison and help at Pg with Earl Watson.

    Salaries (most from nbatrade machine.com):
    Maggette- $7,000,000
    Williams- $1,890,000
    Kobe- 19,490,625
    D-Fish- 4,666,667
    Mihm- 2,500,000
    Bynum- $2,172,000
    Javaris- 1,285,200
    Evans- $1,740,000
    Odom- $13,248,596
    Radmanovic- $5,632,200
    Walton- $4,000,000
    Cook- $3,500,000
    Sasha- $1,756,951
    Ronny- 770,610
    Coby- 427,000
    ————-
    $70,079,849

    Over $2,214,849

    Thanks Miguel Salazar
    Miguel Salazar

    The Following is from Insidehoops.com:

    The tax level for the 2007-08 season has been set at $67.865 million. Any team whose team salary exceeds that figure will pay a $1 tax for each $1 by which it exceeds $67.865 million.

    The mid-level exception is $5.356 million for the 2007-08 season and the minimum team salary, which is set at 75% of the Salary Cap, is $41.723 million.

    Salaray Cap:2007-08 $55.630 million

  • kb24 4life

    how about this trade

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~3002~813&teams=3~3~13&te=&cash=

    this will give us a 3 point shooter and we need one, the lakers doesn’t have a player that makes 35% from beyond the arc so peja could be a good addition ,

    then sign webber for some deep in our frontcourt our lineup will look like this

    fisher/critt
    kobe/mo
    peja/luke
    lamar/webber
    mihm/bynum

    better lineup than last year..

  • Shaq786

    3-way trade:

    LAL trades: Kwame, V.Rad, Brian Cook, sasha, Odom, rights to Sun Yue, and a ’08 first round pick
    LAL Receives: K-MART, Ron Artest and Linas Kleiza

    DEN trades: Kenyon Martin, Linas Kleiza, J.R. Smith, and Eduardo Najera
    DEN Recieves:

    SAC trades: Ron Artest
    SAC Recieves: J.R. Smith and Eduardo Najera

    Line Up:

    D-Fish/Farmar/Javaris
    Kobe/Maurice/Coby

    Salaries (most from hoopsworld.com):

    JO- 19,710,000
    Kobe- 19,490,625
    Kenyon- 13,250,000
    D-Fish- 4,666,666 (aprox. b/c…a 3-year/$14 million contract.)
    Walton – 4,000,000
    Mihm- 2,500,000 (aprox. i heard he signed 5mill/2year)
    Javaris Crittenton- 1,285,200
    Jordan Farmar -1,009,560
    Webber- 1,000,000
    Ronny- 770,610
    Coby- 500,000 (aprox. i know its smaller than Ronny’s contract)
    ——————-
    $71,940,501

    The Following is from Insidehoops.com:

    The tax level for the 2007-08 season has been set at $67.865 million. Any team whose team salary exceeds that figure will pay a $1 tax for each $1 by which it exceeds $67.865 million.

    The mid-level exception is $5.356 million for the 2007-08 season and the minimum team salary, which is set at 75% of the Salary Cap, is $41.723 million.

    Salaray Cap:2007-08 $55.630 million

    —————————————————–

    I have to be under $72,865,000 ($67.865 mil. plus 5 mil.)
    …. the salaries came out to $71,940,501… which is less!!!

    —————————————————————-

  • Shaq786

    please disregard the last trade, i accidentally pressed send… and didnt have enough time to edit it….

    JUDGES JUST CONCENTRATE ON MY FINAL and my most recent trade (“most realistic trade”)

  • yetanotherexpert

    lakerfan81 (Maloof)

    We’ll have to hear from (Mark Warkentien) as to what they would accept for Camby & J.R. It is understandable that caution be taken when dealing with a Division rival, but we both have pieces that the other needs, and there are many teams we should both be far more concerned about than each other.

    Martin is a great asset and I don’t blame you for wanting to find a way to keep him. Having Martin, Bibby, and Odom on the same court is certainly a situation to salivate over.

    I could be wrong but I don’t think Denver will be interested in the 30-year old Abdur-Rahim, especially at $5.5 million. They are looking to go much younger and build a powerhouse that will sustain them for the next 8 years.

    But I think I may have a better solution that will satisfy everyone.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1998~617~25~2755~3211~1726~125~2444&teams=7~7~23~23~13~7~7~13~13~13&te=&cash=

    Maloof, you’ll get your wish and receive Lamar Odom and Brian Cook, yet KEEP Martin. This gives you your dream of (Bibby, Odom, Martin) on the floor. Brian Cook is 26, 6-9, and shoots 40% from beyond the arc (he may have had fewer attempts than JR Smith, but his percentage is actually 1% better). The value here is unquestioned.

    The price of keeping Martin will be to give Denver some young talent and as they look to build their dynasty of the future. Denver gets Bynum and Brown from the Lakers. Bynum is the cornerstone of this deal and Sac wouldn’t accept anything less. Sacramento sends the 19-yo, 7-0 Spencer Hawes to Denver along with the 25-yo Francisco Garcia. As stated before, Brown is in his final year of his contract and will free $9 mil on the cap next year. This is more than enough to sign Bynum and Hawes to a long term deal, thereby keeping their core intact.

    So, this means that Denver will receive TWO towering 19-yo 7 footers. Combine that with Nene, Carmelo, and Iverson and it will be scary indeed. Along with Kwame and Garcia, this team will be the same or better right away, but could become a dominant force in a few years.

    The Lakers take John Salmons’ $4.7 million contract off of Sacramento’s books, but will get their two main pieces they were looking for (Camby and Artest). To offset giving up Brian Cook, they would also get JR Smith. Smith is much smaller than Cook and isn’t one of the league’s elite shooters (ranked 28 last year) but was Denver’s best and could help give LA a perimeter threat.

    So to recap:

    LA gets:
    Marcus Camby, Ron Artest, John Salmons, J.R. Smith

    Sacramento gets:
    Lamar Odom, Brian Cook

    Denver gets:
    Andrew Bynum, Spencer Hawes, Kwame Brown, Francisco Garcia

    LA’s lineup.
    Guard- Derek Fisher / Javaris Crittenton / Jordan Farmar
    Shooting Guard – Kobe Bryant / J.R. Smith / Sasha Palovic / Coby Carl
    Small Forward – Ron Artest / Luke Walton / John Salmons
    Power Forward – (Chris Webber) / Ronny Turiaf
    Center- Marcus Camby / Chris Mihm

  • LALakers1

    3-WAY Trade (Lakers/Indiana/Seattle Super Sonics):

    Lakers Incoming Players: Jermaine Oneal & Al Thornton.

    Indiana Incoming Players: Andrew Bynum, Vladimir Radmanovic, Brian Cook, Corey Maggette & Aaron Williams.

    Seattle Super Sonics Incoming Players: Kwame Brown & Javaris Crittenton.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1998~3197~1016~615~1978~1027~497~3237~923&teams=25~11~11~25~11~13~12~12~11~13~11&te=&cash=

    Line Up:

    D-fish/Farmar/Sasha
    Kobe/Evans
    Walton/Coby Karl
    L.O./Turiaf/Al Thornton
    J.O./Mihm

    Salaries (most from nbatrade machine.com):

    J.O- $ 19,728,000
    Jordan Farmar- $1,009,560
    Kobe- 19,490,625

    D-Fish- 4,666,667
    
Mihm- 2,500,000

    Evans- $1,740,000

    Odom- $13,248,596

    Walton- $4,000,000

    Sasha- $1,756,951
    
Ronny- 770,610

    Coby- 427,000

    Al Thornton- $1,652,280

    Total:

    $70,990,289

    Over $3,125,289

    Thanks Miguel

    The Following is from Insidehoops.com:

    The tax level for the 2007-08 season has been set at $67.865 million. Any team whose team salary exceeds that figure will pay a $1 tax for each $1 by which it exceeds $67.865 million.

    The mid-level exception is $5.356 million for the 2007-08 season and the minimum team salary, which is set at 75% of the Salary Cap, is $41.723 million.

    Salaray Cap:2007-08 $55.630 million

  • PHANTOM

    man all you guys are crazy.. well i might as well be one too. 4 way trade

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~1998~1031~3002~1016~2421~45~2384~3202~3209~3225&teams=19~25~19~19~22~19~25~13~13~13~13&te=&cash=

    we get dwight howard, durrant, greg oden, jeff green

    seattle gets tony batie and brian cook

    portland gets vladimir radmonovich

    orlando gets sasha kwame jordon and evans.

    the sad thing is this isn’t even the craziest trade on this site. get a clue people…….

    fish-chritton
    kobe-durrant
    lamar-walton
    oden-green
    howard-bynum

    championship

  • thehamm99

    Dear Jerry and Jim Buss,

    As your ambitious new GM I’m going to make and not make several moves, like you’ve asked me to, based on several factors:
    1) The Jermaine O’Neal factor: I am the new GM and have my own ideas, but also must deal with the constraints that you have, and those constraints have been made very clear to me… so that means: No trading Odom and Bynum together – and no trading Bynum for anything less than O’Neal; And since Indiana clearly doesn’t want a 5 or 6 to 1 trade, O’Neal will no longer be discussed.

    2) The Marcus Camby factor: Trading K.Brown to Denver for Camby makes financial sense, but since we aren’t trading Bynum for O’neal – there is no need for Camby.
    Stats per 34 min/game
    Camby (’06-’07) 34 min. 11pts,12rb,3blk. $11,250,000- ’08
    Bynum (’06-’07) 34 min. 12pts,9rb,3blk. $2,172,000- ’08

    These numbers (taken from last season) should be even better for Bynum, as he is sure to improve on last seasons stats. He is sure to make a genius out of you Jim, he’ll be an all-star soon!

    Those are two moves that won’t be made, now three that will:

    1) V.Radmanovic, J.Farmar, R. Turiaf to LAC for C.Maggette, A. Williams

    http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4186889

    2) K.Brown, B.Cook to DEN for K.Martin.

    http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4186890

    3) Sign Chris Webber to MLE – 1yr / $5,000,000

    move #1:The Lakers won’t miss Vlade’s shooting off the bench because his minutes and shots will now be taken by the 6th man – Luke Walton. The arrival of Crittenton, and Fisher make Farmar expendable, and Chris Webber will take Turiaf’s minutes. Maggette and the Clips clearly want away from each other, and Aaron Williams adds some veteran depth to our bench.
    move #2: K.Brown’s expiring contract will be valuable to Denver, and he wouldn’t figure to get many minutes stuck behind an emerging Bynum, and the veteran Webber. Brian Cook-will not be missed, salary filler for trade. In exchange for ridding ourselves of these two (contracts and lackluster play) we get an injury prone, thuggish, overpaid – yet extremely talented player in Kenyon Martin, who Denver would love to get rid of. This is somewhat risky salary wise, but player wise we assume no risk. If Martin can’t stay healthy, Odom can easily slide over to PF and walton can assume the starting role at SF.
    Move #3: Signing Chris Webber will solidify our bench with a veteran scorer – who is also an underrated rebounder.

    With these moves, I haven’t been able to pull off any blockbuster deals, just the best deals that were available to me. However, I feel that with these deals we aren’t mortgaging our future for a ring, but are keeping our future, and increasing our chances to compete for a title. By keeping Crittenton, Odom and Bynum alongside Bryant and Walton, and adding several key veterans we will be good right away, and for years to come.

    Our new starting lineup:
    PG Kobe Bryant -$19,490,625
    SG Corey Maggette – $7,000,000
    SF Lamar Odom – $13,248,596
    PF Kenyon Martin – $13,250,000
    C Andrew Bynum – $2,172,000

    Bench
    PG Derek Fisher – $4,352,000
    SG Sasha Vujacic – $1,756,951
    SF Luke Walton – $4,000,000
    PF Chris Webber – $5,000,000
    C Chris Mihm – $2,500,000

    3rd string
    PG Javaris Crittenton – $1,285,200
    SF Maurice Evans – $1,740,000
    PF Aaron Williams – $1,890,000

    I believe that if our top 8 (Bryant,Maggette,Odom,Martin,Bynum,Fisher,Walton,Webber) stay healthy we will be competing for another banner to hang from the rafters…this season! These 8 players can be combined and interchanged to make several intriguing and potentially lethal lineups, something I know Mr. Jackson desires.

    Also under contract
    Coby Karl – $ 427,163

    Total $$ of traded contracts of Radmanovic, Farmar, Turiaf, Brown, and Cook: $19,987,370
    Total $$ of contracts acquired of Maggette, Williams, Martin: $22,140,000
    (Trades approved by Trade checker)

    Mid Level Exception to Chris Webber.

    Total team payroll (including MLE): $76,827,335

    Sorry Jerry, looks like you’ll be paying the luxury tax again, but I know winning is your goal!…

    …And it is mine too. I hope these transactions, and the fruits they bare this season, will further convince you that the decision to hire me as your GM was the right one.

    Here’s looking forward to a great season!

    Sincerely,

    Jim. E. Dimoni
    General Manager
    Los Angeles Lakers

  • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta LiL_K

    HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA shows how good u are at GM starting sasha in front of Mo evans and Java.?

    then u have Kobe as a PG??

    Ignorance is bliss good trades but lineup is out of order

  • LALakers1

    This would be my line up for Jim. E. Dimoni trade
    acquiring the contracts of Maggette, Williams, Martin & Mid Level Exception to Chris Webber.

    PG Derek Fisher
    SG Kobe Bryant
    SF Lamar Odom
    PF Kenyon Martin
    C Andrew Bynum

    Bench

    PG Javaris
    SG Maggette
    SF Luke Walton
    PF Chris Webber
    C Chris Mihm

    3rd string

    PG Sasha
    SF Maurice Evans
    PF Aaron Williams

  • LAKERSCHAMPSO8

    im just a lakerfan and not gonna post a trade caz all mine trades have been posted by all these laker fans… um but thehamm99 i like all that you done but as for the lineup whos cares as long as kobes playing and really all the lineup up crap is just for video games soo yea…but imm not sure if denver would give up k.martin for brown and cook but i they do that be good.. so like u said that would bring us another banner which is a very good thing caz then we keep kobe happy and the fans get a championship and braging rights and then we kill all those celtcis fans caz they not get their championship with the greedy giant kg…ahahahhahahahahah lakers champions in 08

  • thehamm99

    “HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA shows how good u are at GM starting sasha in front of Mo evans and Java.?”

    Of course, as the GM I won’t decide the ultimate lineup, that is Phil’s job. But, as you’ll notice, the depth order of those players you complained about really is not that important, as they likely won’t be in the rotation – or get signifigant minutes. Although I don’t see how placing Sasha ahead of Evans would shock you. He is a much, much better shooter, improves every season, and plays tough Defense at the Guard position. Evans plays great defense, usually at the SF position, where he will be behind Luke Walton.

    “then u have Kobe as a PG??”
    Kobe Bryant ’02-03: 6ast (led team), ’03-’04: 5ast (led team), ’04-’05: 6ast (led team), ’05-’06: 4.5ast (2nd on team), ’06-’07: 5.5ast (led team)

    Kobe has the led the team in Assists, for 4 out of the last 5 seasons. Averaging In that time 5.3 ast. per game. In that same time Derek Fisher averaged 3.52 ast. per game. Also, with Smush Parker the last two seasons, Kobe Bryant has been unofficialy playing PG by being the man who brings the ball up the court and distributes — he is already the Point Guard.

    So I guess what I would say to someone who is to “ignorant” to realize that Kobe is already the PG is HAHAHAHAHA…or something idiotic like that.

    Lakers1,

    I can’t imagine Derek Fisher starting ahead of Corey Maggette. If you really think about it, and look at Fisher’s stats, he is more SG than PG now, and more suited to come off the bench. So how about we adjust it like this:
    starters
    PG Bryant *
    SG Maggette *
    SF Odom *
    PF Martin *
    C Bynum *

    Bench
    PG Crittenton
    SG Fisher *
    SF Walton *
    PF Webber *
    C Mihm

    3rd string
    G Vujacic
    F Evans
    F Williams

    * Indicates a player in the rotation playing more than 20 minutes per game

    Some possible lineups using at least 2 bench players:
    Bryant, Maggette, Walton, ODom, Webber
    Fisher, Maggette, Odom, Martin, Webber
    Fisher, Bryant, Walton, Martin, Webber
    Bryant, Fisher, Walton, Webber, Bynum

  • cyrus

    ATTENTION ALL GM CHALLENGE PARTICIPANTS:

    For your information, the Judging Panel is reviewing all offers. We just finished grading all trade proposals that were submitted until yesterday. We are reviewing all new props as they come in by the end of each day. Please keep sending your proposals, last day is August 23.

    Judges are grading your trade ideas by the following criteria:

    1-Practicality of the trade: Is the proposal acceptable to both teams?
    2-Simplicity of the trade: The number of teams and players used in a trade.
    3-Will the trade help Lakers: Will your proposal be beneficial to the Lakers?

    Some of you have proposed different trades in several posts; we consider the last one to be your final submission.

    Some of the participants just write players names and suggest a trade; you must run the trade through the ESPN trade machine and post the link to be accepted.

    The trade machine at the “realGMs” doesn’t let us review the result of proposed trades, please use the ESPN trade machine and post the link. The “realGMs” sometimes let us view the results and sometimes it doesn’t. I tried it myself several times and it worked (posting the link with the result and go back check the the results) most of the times, but than I checked it next day and it didn’t work. I have no idea what causes the error.

    Keep countering offers; this will help your counter part GMs to improve their trade ideas.

    Thank you for your overwhelming response.

    Members of the Judging Panel.

  • cyrus

    Thuggishsteer,

    We are unable to review your trade proposal on the “realGM”, please resubmit using ESPN trade machine.

  • cyrus

    Shaq786,

    You have so many proposals and none of them has a trade machine link with the results, please run your final trade idea through ESPN trade machine and post the link. You don’t need to explain your trades, you have done it elaborately in you previous posts. Just give us the link with the results. Thank you.

  • cyrus

    I see some of you are discouraged because your trade ideas have been already posted by other members. In this case, I would suggest to pretend that you are the GM of the other team and counter their proposals.

  • cyrus

    thehamm99,

    Your “realGM” link works and we can see your trades. So, you don’t need to rerun it through the ESPN machine. Hopefully it works later as well, if we have problems reading your props, we will let you know. Thanks

  • lakerfan81

    [quote post="879"]then u have Kobe as a PG??”
    Kobe Bryant ‘02-03: 6ast (led team), ‘03-’04: 5ast (led team), ‘04-’05: 6ast (led team), ‘05-’06: 4.5ast (2nd on team), ‘06-’07: 5.5ast (led team)

    Kobe has the led the team in Assists, for 4 out of the last 5 seasons. Averaging In that time 5.3 ast. per game. In that same time Derek Fisher averaged 3.52 ast. per game. Also, with Smush Parker the last two seasons, Kobe Bryant has been unofficialy playing PG by being the man who brings the ball up the court and distributes — he is already the Point Guard.[/quote]

    You are failing too look at the offensive system ran by the Lakers; the triangle offense. Each position in the triangle has a specific role. Instead of going into all the details, since I am not a basketball coach or player so I will probably miss it up, I will provide a couple of links that will help explain the system. After reading the links then you will see why Kobe is not a PG in the Triangle (or any other system for that matter, though theoretically you could go with no PG).

    Here is a quick breakdown of each position in the triangle. I will copy description here. You can go to the Link and read the whole post. It is by a Baksetball player and it tells how he feels the players on the current lakers roster fits in (I disagree on a few points but..).

    The Roles
    Each position fills a need of the team, but when the triangle is used to perfection, it doesn’t matter who does what, as long as they occupy their place.

    PG: He just has to bring the ball forward and read the defense and the mismatches that exist and exploit them. He should be taller than average not only for defensive purposes but also to allow exploring the weak side early on, allowing the PG to post up with just two passes off the dribble without compromising the play or letting the defense know that that’s the option being used.

    SG/SF: They basically have the same role in this offense, with height being the only true difference between them. Since the PG (or ball carrier) chooses the side where the offense starts, playing the SG or the SF is a matter of choice or design (or luck) on each and every play.

    PF: The most important player in this offense — a team playing the triangle offense without a PF able to rebound and hit the mid-range jump shot consistently won’t win (unless competition really sucks, which is not the case here).

    C: Since the offense was originally designed for a quality big man inside, no further explanation is needed here.

    http://www.forumblueandgold.com/

    here are a couple links that describe the offense in more detail:
    http://www.cybersportsusa.com/hooptactics/triangle.asp
    http://espn.go.com/ncb/2003/0128/1499926.html

  • LALakers1

    ..

  • LALakers1

    Since you guys said that we would be graded on our last proposal if we had a few. I had to repost the one I think is best.
    Thanks GM Miguel Salazar

    Dear Jerry & Jim Buss, heres my proposal that improves the Lakers
    without giving up L.O. or Bynum.

    3-WAY Trade (Lakers/Clippers/Seattle Super Sonics):

    Lakers Incoming Players: Corey Maggette & Aaron Williams.

    Clippers Incoming Players: Earl Watson, Nick Collison & Mickael Gelabale.

    Seattle Super Sonics Incoming Players: Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar & Al Thornton.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~3002~1978~2756~1027~497~3237~923&teams=25~25~12~12~12~13~25~13&te=&cash=

    Line Up:

    D-fish/Javaris/Sasha
    Kobe/Evans/Coby Karl
    Maggette/Walton/Radmanovic
    L.O./Cook/Aaron Wiliams
    Bynum/Mihm/Turiaf

    Reasons I found for Team Dealings:

    ~Seattle gets a Expiring contract of 9 mill with Kwame along with current Kurt Thomas 8 Mill, thats 17 mill for Free Agency and they get a young Pg in Jordan Farmar.

    The reason for Seattle is that there looking to clear up cap space and young talent.

    The reason for Clippers is that they are looking for help at the C and Pg positions.

    The reason for Lakers is that there looking for help in a 2nd or 3rd scoring option.

    Teams Reasons:

    ~LAL would do this because they will a second or third scoring option in Maggette.

    ~Clippers would do this because they get help at what there lacking due to injuries since Elton Brand got hurt and Shawn Livingston as well. They would get help at C with Nick Collison and help at Pg with Earl Watson.

    Salaries (most from nbatrade machine.com):
    Maggette- $7,000,000
    Williams- $1,890,000
    Kobe- 19,490,625
    D-Fish- 4,666,667
    Mihm- 2,500,000
    Bynum- $2,172,000
    Javaris- 1,285,200
    Evans- $1,740,000
    Odom- $13,248,596
    Radmanovic- $5,632,200
    Walton- $4,000,000
    Cook- $3,500,000
    Sasha- $1,756,951
    Ronny- 770,610
    Coby- 427,000
    —————
    $70,079,849

    Over $2,214,849

    Thanks for you time and consideration.
    GM Miguel Salazar

    The Following is from Insidehoops.com:

    The tax level for the 2007-08 season has been set at $67.865 million. Any team whose team salary exceeds that figure will pay a $1 tax for each $1 by which it exceeds $67.865 million.

    The mid-level exception is $5.356 million for the 2007-08 season and the minimum team salary, which is set at 75% of the Salary Cap, is $41.723 million.

  • Shaq786

    CYRUS, I didnt post a link to the trade Machine because, I was using aaron Mckie as a sign-in-trade, and he is not listed as a player, and also it would show the trade as a failure because the salaries won’t match with his absence…. ALSO, you can’t choose more than 4 teams in a trade….

    5-way trade(LAL/LAC/SAC/MEM/GSW):

    LAL trades: Kwame, V.Rad, Brian Cook, sasha, Maurice, farmar, rights to Sun Yue, a ’08 second round pick, a ’08 first round pick, Aaron Mckie (S&T, 3 MILL/one year) and 2010 first round pick
    LAL Receives: Ron Artest, Baron Davis

    LAC trades: Corey Magette and Aaron williams
    LAC Recieves: Stromile Swift, Damon Stoudemire, and ’08 second round pick

    SAC trades: Ron Artest
    SAC Recieves: Corey Magette

    MEM trades: Stromile Swift, Damon Stoudemire, and Hakim Warrick
    MEM Receives: V.Rad, Brian Cook, sasha, rights to Sun Yue, and a ’08 first round pick

    GSW Trades: Baron Davis
    GSW Receives: farmar, Hakim Warrick, Aaron Mckie, Maurice, A.Williams, Kwame, 2010 first round pick

    ~Sign Webber

    Line Up:

    B. Diddy/D-Fish/Javaris
    Kobe/Javaris/Coby
    Artest/Walton
    Odom/Webber/Turaif
    Bynum/Mihm

    Salaries (most from hoopsworld.com):

    Kobe- 19,490,625
    B. Davis – 16,440,000
    Lamar Odom – 13,248,596
    Ron Artest – 7,400,000
    D-Fish- 4,352,000
    Walton – 4,000,000
    Mihm- 2,500,000
    Andrew Bynum- 2,172,000
    Javaris Crittenton- 1,285,200
    Webber- 778,800
    Ronny Turaif – 770,610
    Coby- 427,163 (aprox. i know its smaller than Ronny’s contract)
    ——————-
    $72,864,994

    The Following is from Insidehoops.com:

    The tax level for the 2007-08 season has been set at $67.865 million. Any team whose team salary exceeds that figure will pay a $1 tax for each $1 by which it exceeds $67.865 million.

    The mid-level exception is $5.356 million for the 2007-08 season and the minimum team salary, which is set at 75% of the Salary Cap, is $41.723 million.

    Salaray Cap:2007-08 $55.630 million

    —————————————————–

    I have to be under $72,865,000 ($67.865 mil. plus 5 mil.)
    …. the salaries came out to $72,864,994… which is less!!!

  • cyrus

    Shaq786,

    Thank you for the explanation, we will review your trade. However, just remember that using multiple teams and players will cost you points. As mentioned in my previous post; we grade all trade ideas by 3 criteria: Practicality, Simplicity and if the trade would indeed help the Lakers.

  • thehamm99

    shaq789,

    As far as I know you don’t have to be at or under $72 million, as long as your trades meet the rules of the CBA, your payroll can be slightly higher or lower than it was before your trades. For example, in my trades the payroll increases about $2-3 million, which is okay because both trades met the rules of the cba…I believe this to be true, someone correct me if i’m wrong.

    Judges:
    I didn’t have any trouble checking the links on my trades from Real gm, please let me know if i need to go back and do them over. (Radmanovic Farmar Turiaf to LAC for Maggette Williams and K.Brown Brian Cook to DEN for K.Martin.

  • cyrus

    [quote comment="12298"]thehamm99,

    Your “realGM” link works and we can see your trades. So, you don’t need to rerun it through the ESPN machine. Hopefully it works later as well, if we have problems reading your props, we will let you know. Thanks[/quote]

    We posted this before.

  • thehamm99

    cyrus,

    Thanks. I didn’t see it earlier…but I do now.

    LAlakers1,

    How you gonna use my “Dear Jerry and Jim Buss” line?
    Do I have to copywright it to not get bit?? Come up with something original, that’s what this whole thing is about.

  • Shaq786

    Cyrus and the rest of the Judges… are we getting points for EVERY trade we put up?.. or are we graded on one trade?

    because I am not done, i want to put up 1-2 more trades, and that will be my final..

    PLease let me know

  • LALakers1

    [quote comment="12328"]cyrus,

    Thanks. I didn’t see it earlier…but I do now.

    LAlakers1,

    How you gonna use my “Dear Jerry and Jim Buss” line?
    Do I have to copywright it to not get bit?? Come up with something original, that’s what this whole thing is about.[/quote]

    I thought it was a great formal greeting..thats all…ill change to..

    Dear Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation.

    Hows That??

    My Apologies….

    GM Miguel Salazar

  • Shaq786

    3-way trade(LAL/MIN/SAC):

    LAL trades: V.Rad, Brian Cook, Sasha, Maurice Evans, 2 million Cash, and rights to Sun Yue
    LAL Receives: Ron Artest and Marko Jaric

    MIN trades: Ricky Davis and Marko Jaric
    MIN Recieves: V.Rad, Cook, Sasha, Maurice Evans, 2 million Cash, and rights to Sun Yue

    SAC trades: Ron Artest
    SAC Recieves: Ricky Davis

    Link for trade:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1998~1031~1016~2421~3245~193~387~25&teams=16~16~16~16~16~23~13~13&te=&cash=16:13

    ~Sign Webber

    Line Up:

    D-Fish/Farmar/Javaris
    Kobe/Jaric/Coby
    Artest/Walton
    Odom/Webber/Turaif
    Kwame/Bynum/Mihm

    Salaries (most from hoopsworld.com):

    Kobe- 19,490,625
    Lamar Odom – 13,248,596
    Kwame Brown $9,075,000
    Ron Artest – 7,400,000
    Marko Jaric – 6,050,000
    D-Fish- 4,352,000
    Walton – 4,000,000
    Mihm- 2,500,000
    Andrew Bynum- 2,172,000
    Javaris Crittenton- 1,285,200
    Jordan Farmar- 1,009,560
    Webber- 1,013,000 (this is the rest of our MLE… 5.365Mill- Fisher)
    Ronny Turaif – 770,610
    Coby- 427,163
    ———————————————
    TOTAL: $72,793,844… which is under the $72,865,000 ($67.865 mil. plus 5 mil.) challenge limit.

    I would have given reasons if you guys wanted… but it seems like you dont need my reasons. Well, at least thats what I got from Cyrus’s comment, which perfectly fine with me. If you do decide that you want explanations than please ask me. Thanks

  • Shaq786

    I would have also traded Kwame, Bynum, Marko Jaric, and ’08 & 2010 first round picks, for Jermaine O’neal… We could have had a line up looking like the following….

    D-Fish/Farmar/Javaris
    Kobe/Jaric/Coby
    Artest/Walton
    Odom/Webber/Turaif
    Kwame/Bynum/Mihm

    BUT YOU GUYS WANTED SIMPLICITY…

    if i can get more points for this trade PLEASE include it,.. it will basically be a 4 way deal… I still get under the challenge financial limit, and we obviously get more better.

  • Shaq786

    If I will get extra points for doing a 4-way including INDIANA, rther than doing a 3-way….. here is the trade

    4-way trade(LAL/MIN/SAC/IND):

    LAL trades: V.Rad, Brian Cook, farmar, Sasha, Maurice Evans, 2 million Cash, rights to Sun Yue, Kwame, Bynum, Marko Jaric, and ’08 & 2010 first round picks
    LAL Receives: Jermaine O’neal and Ron Artest

    MIN trades: Ricky Davis and Marko Jaric
    MIN Recieves: V.Rad, Cook, Sasha, Maurice Evans, 2 million Cash, and rights to Sun Yue

    SAC trades: Ron Artest
    SAC Recieves: Ricky Davis

    IND trades: Jermaine O’neal
    IND Recieves: Kwame, Bynum, farmar, Marko Jaric, and ’08 & 2010 first round picks

    Link:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1998~1031~3002~1016~2421~3245~193~387~615~25&teams=11~11~16~16~11~16~16~16~23~11~13~13&te=&cash=16:13

    ~Sign Webber (but we can only pay him $479,595, this is because I have to be under the CHALLENGE LIMIT… which i was under by a dollar… so we will pay $4,999,999 over the tas threshold, MY TOTAL SALARIES= $72,864,999)

    Line Up:

    D-Fish/Javaris
    Kobe/Coby
    Artest/Walton
    Odom/Webber/Turaif
    Jermaine/Mihm

  • LALakers1

    Dear Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation,

    Here is a more reasonable, realistic trade idea according to NBA news, Rumors and Hellcrooner at pro Sports Daily with my moderation.

    Thanks for your time and considerations.

    G.M. Miguel Salazar

    . Trade Idea :

    3 Team Deal: Lakers, Memphis & Minnesota.

    Lakers Outgoing Players: Brian Cook, Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar & Vladimir Radmanovic.

    Memphis Outgoing Players: Damon Stoudamire & Stromile Swift.

    Minnesota Outgoing Players: Juwan Howard & Marko Jaric.

    Lakers Incoming Players: Juwan Howard, Marko Jaric,
    Damon Stoudamire & Stromile Swift.

    Memphis Incoming Players: Vladimir Radmanovic & Brian Cook.

    Minnesota. Incoming Players: Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar & Sasha.

    Trade Machine Link:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~1998~3002~1016~2421~351~387~817~829&teams=16~29~16~29~16~13~13~13~13&te=&cash=

    Memphis Gets rid of Damon Stoudamire & Stromile Swift. Also get help to Gasol and use a good back up in Radmanovic and add shooter in Cook.

    Minnesota gets 9 mill Expiring in Kwame, a young Pg in Farmar and help also at point with Sasha since they need help at the pg position.

    Lakers New Line Up

    Fisher/Stoudamire/C.Karl
    Kobe/Evans/Critt
    L.O./Luke/M.Jaric
    J. Howard/S.Swift
    Bynum/Mihm/Turiaf

    We Get rid of Cook, Sasha, Radmanovic & Kwame.

    We get a veteran PG, A PF so L.O. can fall back to his natural position, and keep Lakers Core: Bynum, L.O & Kobe.

    Also we can try to trade for Artest with Juwan Howard and Filler or “08″ 1st round pick to SAC.

    P.S. If you need any Total Team Salaries or Any Reasons for trades just let me know and I will provide info.

    Once again thanks for your time and consideration:
    Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation.

    Yours Truly G.M. Miguel Salazar

  • kgmvp

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=617~2421~510&teams=21~21~13&te=&cash=
    or this one
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=617~2789~2421~25~849&teams=23~23~23~13~13&te=&cash=
    I would do this trade cause the players that the lakers will receive consistent players and players that can contribute.
    Then i would try to sign Chris Webber or any FA that can give me good solid numbers.
    New Lakers lineup:
    PG: D-fish
    SG: Kobe
    SF: Marion or Artest
    PF: C-webb (if we can sign him) or
    C : Mihm or Kwame
    This is what i would do if i was the gm of the LAL.

  • pureownage

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~3002~617~1016~2383~615~207~3046~933~25~61~71&teams=23~11~23~11~11~13~13~23~23~23~13~14~14&te=&cash=

    LAL: Trade Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, and Vladimir
    Radmonovich [To Indiana]

    Trade Jordan Farmar and Kwame Brown [To Sacramento]

    IND: Trade Jermaine O’neal and David Harrison [To Lakers]

    SAC: Trade Dejan Bodiroga (unsigned draft pick) and Mike
    Bibby [To Miami]

    Trade Ron Artest [To Lakers]

    MIA: Trade Michael Doleac, Chris Quinn, and Jason Williams [To SAC]

  • pureownage

    Now let me explain why its good for each team…

    For Miami: They finally get the point guard they coveted
    (Mike Bibby) and get rid of often-injured Jason
    Williams. They also get to keep Haslem.

    For Indiana: They wanted Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum, and
    they got them. This helps them get younger too.

    For Sacramento: Ron Artest is having a bad influence on the
    team and is an interference to Kevin
    Martin’s development. Now they get to dump
    him on their rivals the Lakers to possibly
    ruin them. Mike Bibby has struggled for
    Sacramento this past year and a half, has
    been injured, and is not living up to the
    money he gets.
    Now, Sacramento gets five expiring
    contracts / trade baits. Plus, two of them
    are young point guards: Chris Quinn and
    Jordan Farmar who are pretty good.

    AND FOR THE LAKERS: Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom have both shown potential, but neither fully live up to them. Plus, Odom rarely plays well with Kobe on the court (which is what the Lakers need). His awesome plays usually come when Kobe is on the bench, but they don’t really make a huge difference in the point margin. And Bynum may make a few good shots and blocks here and there but the truth is that he is still too soft. To me he seems he will be better than Kwame in the long run but never as good as Jermaine O’neal. And Vlad was plainly a bad sign by Mitch and an embarrasment for the team (remember the lie about his snowboarding incident).

    Thus, we snatch Jermaine (all-star) while he still has another 5-6 years. David Harrison adds to the size we give up in the trades and trust me he is a solid back-up center.

    Giving up Jordan Farmar, who is now expendable since we have Javaris Crittenton who knows the triangle well and has the size Phil Jackson prefers, along with Kwame Brown helps persuade Sacramento to trade Ron Artest to us. Ron Artest will be our main anchor on defense (which we kind of really need) and a overall powerful force on the court. Trust me, he will behave. We have Phil Jackson and Kobe Bryant (the world’s greatest player). He will behave because we will win the championship.

  • pureownage

    THE LAKERS LINEUP:

    PG: Fisher / Javaris / (Sasha)
    SG: Kobe / Mo Evans / (Sasha) / (Coby Karl)
    SF: Ron Artest / Luke Walton / (Coby Karl)
    PF: Jermaine O’neal / Ronny Turiaf / Brian Cook
    C: Chris Mihm / David Harrison

    Then maybe we can persuade Chris Webber to sign for the veteran’s minimum or a portion of our mid-level if any left over for a chance to win a championship. We’ll start him at Center and move Mihm to back-up.

    We are instant champions. Probably will beat the Celtics in 6.

  • pureownage

    I Would Only Do This Trade if we get both Jermaine and Artest, or else it is not worth it.

  • thehamm99

    I’m glad I don’t have to judge this….Geez, how many posters on here have left like 7 trades to consider? What happened to thinking it through and posting your best material — in one post??

    And all these 4 way trades and 5 for 1 Jermaine o’neal deals are all very silly, and impossible… We are Lakers fans…We should be smarter than that.

  • Shaq786

    thehamm99…..

    your bashing a 5 for 1 Jermain deal….

    just in case you forgot thats how deals go down for an allstar like jermaine…

    look at KG… was it 7 for 1???… you think pacers would take Odom and a picks for Jermaine… they need more, they just have alot of junk on their team, a lot of borderline starters and not that many legit starters.

    They need to rebuild and they need to kcik some players out

  • cyrus

    LakerFan81,

    Did you get my email? do you have your grades ready? You accepted to be part of the panel and we need your grades. Please let us know if you have changed your mind. Thanks

  • cyrus

    Shaq786,

    You make me dizzy with so many posts and trades, please makeup your mind and give your final trade ESPN link. No explanation is necessary. Just one link. Thanks.

    PS: Again, more teams and more players means lower grades.

  • thehamm99

    Shaq,

    I’m bashing it because it won’t happen. The pacers don’t want to take back all the extra bodies it would take to make the deal work. They already have 15 players under contract, and I remember reading somewhere that Bird already said he doesn’t want a deal like that. They can’t just “kick” some players out — they still get paid.

    “just in case you forgot thats how deals go down for an allstar like jermaine…”

    That’s why there is no deal going down for him.

    “they need more, they just have alot of junk on their team, a lot of borderline starters and not that many legit starters.”

    What we have to offer that would meet the salary requirements is not any big upgrade. Indiana would demand Crittenton, Bynum, Odom, and Kwame Brown filler and in exchange would send us O’Neal and either Murphy or Dunleavy, both of whom have long, overpaid contracts with many years left on them. There is no way this deal does or should happen. There is no middle ground to settle on.

    If you look at my trades they aren’t blockbusters, but they are simple, common sense, realistic moves — the kind a good GM makes.

    Doesn’t everybody believe Bynum could be close to a 20pt 10 reb guy within 2 years??

    If you look at my trade post, based on last years stats, if he had played 34 minutes/game he would have averaged 12 pts, 9reb, and 2blk. Assuming he plays 34 minutes a game, wouldn’t you have to assume he would improve enough just this season to avg. 14pts 10rebs??

    Some food for thought:
    A. Bynum: ’06-’07 -his 2nd yr: 22 min, 8pts, 6reb, 1.5blk

    Al Jefferson’s 2nd yr: 18min, 8pts, 5reb, 1blk

    Al Jefferson: last season (his 3rd):
    34 min, 16pts, 11reb, 1.5blk

    This is the reason Bynum won’t be traded, he’s got the same kind of potential as Jefferson, and getting anything less than Garnett meant not trading him.

    And…reading through all your different trade proposals is nauseating, I’m sure the judges must feel the same. It prompts me to ask, “Is that your final answer?”

  • LALakers1

    Judges am I going to get a reply to any of my last 2 Trade Ideas. I know you guys are very busy but tommorrow is the last day.

    Thanks for your time and consideration.
    Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation.

  • The Nugget

    [quote comment="12376"]Judges am I going to get a reply to any of my last 2 Trade Ideas. I know you guys are very busy but tommorrow is the last day.

    Thanks for your time and consideration.
    Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation.[/quote]
    The contest ends at the 23rd, not tomorrow.

  • JediRekal

    I don’t have time to read all the posts to see if this trade has already been posted. So here it is…

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2748~3002~617~1016~2421~2750~615~25&teams=11~23~11~23~11~23~13~13&te=&cash=

    Pacers get Bynum, Odom and Sasha
    Kings get Farmar, Diogu, Vlad and Lakers 2008 1st round pick
    Lakers get JO and Artest

    Pacers – they want Odom and Bynum and EVERYONE knows that it’s too much to give, so including Diogu evens things out. Pacers still have Odom and Troy at PF, so they are fine.

    Kings – Artest market is thin. With this trade they get two young up and coming players plus a pick at the cost of taking Vlad and his contract. Plus Vlad can step in at SF for them.

    Lakers – Pay the lux tax this year, but can then dump kwame and his contract next year or resign him cheap. Also make a deal with JO to opt out and resign for less, maybe 15 mil a year.

    Mihm/Kwame
    JO/Turiaf/Cook
    Artest/Walton
    Kobe/Mo
    Fish/Critt

  • cyrus

    LALakers1,

    Your proposal has been accepted and is in review.
    It’s up to other contestants to challenge your trade idea.
    As Nugget mentioned the challenge ends on 23rd.Thank you for your participation.

  • LFTW

    Ok this is MY FINAL TRADE

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2200~2750~615~3038~497~847~923~2748~1998~3197~617~1016~2421~3196~933&teams=14~12~13~12~13~13~14~11~12~11~11~11~11~12~12&te=&cash=

    *Lakers give the Clips 08 1st, 2010 1st, 08 2nd+ cash to Miami*

    *Daniels can be switched for Tinsley*

    Lakers-Some might detest Artest because of his mental issues and perhaps friction between him and O’Neal but in this deal we get Maggette instead of Artest. We also lose Vlad Rad but get in return Tim Thomas to replace him.

    Pacers-They have even more incentive to do this deal since they will not only be unloading a bad contract in addition to JO but will also get LO Bynum and at the cost of taking on Vlad’s contract get JC who was projected to go lottery this year.

    Heat-They’ve been looking for a PG to replace Williams and either Daniels or Tinsley should be able to fit that bill. They take a slight blow by losing Cook but hopefully the 2nd cash makes up for that.

    Clippers-They unload Maggette who might opt out next year and the contract of Thomas. In return they get a PG in Williams who they need the fact he’s a 9 mil exp contract makes it even better, Diogu, D. Cook, and Williams along with Thornton and Kaman help set the way for future contention when Brand and Livingston return. To top it all off they get B. Cook to replace Thomas as a cheaper, younger shooter a future 1st from the Lakers!

  • http://www.clubnetshoops.com Klewfish

    LFTW

    If i’m the Heat I’m not convinced to do my end of the trade. Just plain not convinced. We have no need for Marquis Daniels at this point, and think we can get better value for Jason Williams 9 million expiring contract. We pass.

  • cyrus

    ATTENTION ALL PARTICIPANTS

    All trades have been reviewed up to THIS POINT.

    If you have already posted a trade, please DO NOT post a new one. WE WILL NOT REVIEW IT. We have enough work with the ones you have posted.

    ALL NEWCOMERS, if you have not posted a trade, please post it now, the contest ends in 48 hours. Thanks

  • bballin23

    To become a title contender, the Lakers should try to make a move and keep Lamar. So, assuming the Memphis Grizzlies would accept the deal, the Lakers should trade Andrew Bynum, Vladimir Radmonivic, Kwame Brown, and Ronny Turiaf for Pau Gasol and Brian Cardinal. Chris Webber has said before that Brian Shaw has been trying to get him to come to the Lakers, and if they more talent with Gasol, Webber will be more interested in coming. They can offer him the mid-level exception, and assuming he signs, the Lakers will have a lineup of

    PG Derek Fisher
    SG Kobe Bryant
    SF Lamar Odom
    PF Chris Webber
    C Pau Gasol

  • bballin23

    Pau Gasol may be happy with the Grizzlies recent additions, (including his pal Navarro,) but they are all still young and inexperienced. (Gay, Conley, Navarro,Warrick, etc.) Gasol may be intrigued by a chance to win a championship with the Lakers, forming a trio with him, Odom, and Kobe, while Fisher and Webber would facilitate the offense.

  • JediRekal

    May I please make a minor correction to my post…???

    The Lakers 2008 1st round pick should go to the Pacers not the Kings, since the Kings get two young players that should be enough.

  • Faith

    First of all thank you guys for the entries. I’m lovin the passion, and the armchair GM. To be honest, this is far more involved than I would have imagined, but I’m sure I’m not the only one that wishes our GM was this creative (though a bit more realistic haha, jk).

    LaLaker1,

    I really like Thorton and JO idea. It would actually be better it was a 3 team trade As Larry Brown though…Why would I trade for Bynum to get young, yet sign on for Cook Vlad (similar players) for long term. Clips happy.

    You’re thinking ouutside the box, I like that. I’m really more interested in acquiring Thornton than Magette, if for nothing else, I think he can bring some desperately needed defense and athleticism without needing the ball so much on offense.

    But it’s not a matter of what we like, but how well the trades fit the criterion set.

    To everyone, keep up the good work!

  • doc777777738

    this is my trade

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2748~3002~617~362~991~2386~1007&teams=20~1~1~13~5~13~20&te=&cash=

    its a 4 team trade with lakers, atlanta, cleveland, and the 76ers…..

    Atlanta is giving away joe johnson and getting Lamar Odom and Jordan Farmar. I think Joe is a little better than lamar so LA gives Farmar. Farmar is very young and has the potential to be a good player. So Atlanta would like this trade.

    Philadelphia will get Joe Johnson and Andrew Bynum and give samuel dalembert. Joe Johnsone is a better scorer than iquodala and their ages are close together (Andre is 23, Joe is 26). The 76ers are in the rebuilting process and getting Andrew Bynum will help because Bynum has a lot of potential. Samuel Dalembert is a good player but he will never be a star. Andrew has the potential to be a star. So philadelphia will be ok with the trade.

    Cleveland is getting Samuel Dalembert and giving away Zydrunas Ilgauskas. If you look at the statistics of both players, they are almost identical. They are both about the same players but Ilgauskas is 32 years old now and Samuel is 26. Ilgauskas does not have too much time left in his career but Samuel has a good 6-7 years left at the least. Thats why Cleveland would be ok with this trade.

    Finally, the lakers get Andre Iquodala and Zydrunas Ilgauskas and give away lamar odom, jordan farmar, and andrew bynum. Iquodala is young so he will take over when kobe is past his prime and he is a great defender and a great athlete so the lakers would be glad to have him. Ilgauskas gives the lakers a good center to play the triangle and the lakers will have Chris Mihm, Ilgauskas, and Kwame as centers (it would be even better if kwame plays the power forward).

    The lakers end up with this roster

    PG…..fisher/javaris/sasha
    SG…..Kobe/Cobe/(Iguadala might play this at times.)
    SF…..Iguadala/Luke/radmanovic/Maurice Evans
    PF…..Kwame/brian cook/turiaf
    C……mihm/ilgauskas/(turiaf might play this at times)

    Now if your thinking about the SG position when kobe sits out, a sf will come in kobes place and iguadala will switch over and play sg. kobe comes back, iguadala switches back if in the game.

  • Shaq786

    this is the Last trade for the judges to consider from me… (I HAD SAID THAT I WOULD POST 1-2 MORE TRADES.. THIS IS MY LAST)

    LAL trades: Kwame, V.Rad, Sasha, 2 mill, and ‘o8 first..

    to DETRIOT for Rasheed Wallace and Jason Maxiell

    Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2775~883~981~1016~2421&teams=13~13~8~8~8&te=&cash=8:13

    Line Up:

    D-Fish/Farmar/Javaris
    Kobe/Maurice/Coby
    Odom/Walton
    Wallace/Webber/Turaif
    Bynum/Mihm

    when odom and rasheed’s contractsexpire in the same year… we can go after players like baron davis, jason kidd, and jermaine oneal.

    Salaries:

    Kobe Bryant $19,490,625
    Andrew Bynum $2,172,000
    Brian Cook (BYC) $3,500,000
    Javaris Crittenton $1,285,200
    Maurice Evans $1,740,000
    Jordan Farmar $1,009,560
    Derek Fisher (TR) $4,352,000
    Coby Karl (TR) $427,163
    Chris Mihm (TR) $2,500,000
    Lamar Odom $13,248,596
    Ronny Turiaf $770,610
    Luke Walton (TR, BYC) $4,000,000
    Rasheed Wallace $12,540,000
    Jason Maxiell $1,041,360
    ——————————-
    Total: $67,649,951 (which is lower than the tax level:$67.865 million…. SO, WE DONT EVEN HAVE TO PAY LUXURY TAX!!!)

  • LALakers1

    [quote comment="12394"]First of all thank you guys for the entries. I’m lovin the passion, and the armchair GM. To be honest, this is far more involved than I would have imagined, but I’m sure I’m not the only one that wishes our GM was this creative (though a bit more realistic haha, jk).

    LaLaker1,

    I really like Thorton and JO idea. It would actually be better it was a 3 team trade As Larry Brown though…Why would I trade for Bynum to get young, yet sign on for Cook Vlad (similar players) for long term. Clips happy.

    You’re thinking ouutside the box, I like that. I’m really more interested in acquiring Thornton than Magette, if for nothing else, I think he can bring some desperately needed defense and athleticism without needing the ball so much on offense.

    But it’s not a matter of what we like, but how well the trades fit the criterion set.

    To everyone, keep up the good work![/quote]

    Dear Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation,

    I appreciate your response to my trade Fatty. Here is a revised Trade Idea with your suggestions.

    1st of all I cut it from 4 to a 3 team trade.

    New Trade Idea

    Teams invloved: Lakers, Clippers & Pacers.

    Lakers Outgoing Players: Andrew Bynum, Vladimir Radmanovic, Sasha Vujacic, Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar & Ronny Turiaf.

    Clippers Outgoing Players: Aaron Williams, Al Thornton & Corey Maggette.

    Pacers Outgoing Players: Jermaine O’Neal

    ——————————————

    Lakers Incoming Players: Jermaine O’Neal, Aaron Williams & Al Thornton.

    Clippers Incoming Players: Jordan Farmar, Ronny Turiaf
    & Vladimir Radmanovic.

    Indiana Incoming Players: Andrew Bynum, Sasha Vujacic, Kwame Brown & Corey Maggette.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=615~981~2748~3002~1016~2789~2421~497~3237~923&teams=13~11~11~12~12~12~11~11~13~13&te=&cash=

    Lakers New Line Up: Dont know exactly what would work best but thats Phil’s Job.

    Fisher/Crittenton/Coby Karl
    Kobe/Mo Evans
    Luke/Cook
    L.O./Al Thornton
    J.O./Mihm/A.Williams

    Thanks for your time and consideration, G.M. Miguel Salazar.

  • thehamm99

    LaLakers1,

    As the clippers GM, why would I give up AL THORNTON, along with COREY MAGGETTE and Aaron Williams, and only get back Radmanovic, Turiaf and Farmar???

    Insane.

  • cyrus

    ATTENTION ALL PARTICIPANT:

    Tomorrow, THURSDAY AUGUST 23, 12PM (NOON) PDT, is the the deadline for posting your trade ideas. You will NOT be able to post any trades after the deadline.

    If you haven’t posted any trades do it now. And if you have posted your trade ideas already, DO NOT post any new trades, it will NOT be reviewed.

    Thanks

  • LALakers1

    [quote comment="12418"]LaLakers1,

    As the clippers GM, why would I give up AL THORNTON, along with COREY MAGGETTE and Aaron Williams, and only get back Radmanovic, Turiaf and Farmar???

    Insane.[/quote]

    Well the hamm99, was just my 1st offer, heres a revised trade for only Corey & Al Thornton and maybe a pick if needed.

    Clippers would get help at C which is needed after Eltons Injury, also since Livingston is out in real need of help at Pg with Jordan Farmar and you get a shooter in Radmanovic.

    Dear Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation,

    I appreciate your response to my trade Fatty. Here is a revised Trade Idea with your suggestions.

    1st of all I cut it from 4 to a 3 team trade.

    New Trade Idea

    Teams invloved: Lakers, Clippers & Pacers.

    Lakers Outgoing Players: Andrew Bynum, Vladimir Radmanovic, Sasha Vujacic, Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar & Ronny Turiaf.

    Clippers Outgoing Players: Al Thornton & Corey Maggette.

    Pacers Outgoing Players: Jermaine Oneal

    Lakers Incoming Players: Jermaine Oneal & Al Thornton.

    Clippers Incoming Players: Jordan Farmar, Ronny Turiaf
    & Vladimir Radmanovic.

    Indiana Incoming Players: Andrew Bynum, Sasha Vujacic, Kwame Brown & Corey Maggette.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=615~981~2748~3002~1016~2789~2421~497~3237&teams=13~11~11~12~12~12~11~11~13&te=&cash=

    Lakers New Line Up: Dont know exactly what would work best but thats Phils Job.

    Fisher/Crittenton/Coby Karl
    Kobe/Mo Evans
    Luke/Cook
    L.O./Al Thornton
    J.O./Mihm/

    Thanks for your time and consideration, G.M. Miguel Salazar.

  • LALakers1

    One more thing I would try to sign Unrestricted Free Agent Ruben Patterson or Chris Webber.

  • G-Funk

    For the record …I bluffed when i said i was working on a deal for JO

  • Shaq786

    I agree with Hamm99…

    so you take out Aaron williams, and you think the trade works now???… in the words of hamm… “insanse”

    turaif and farmar… PROBABLY equal al thorton…. in terms of market value…

    so it comes down to V.Rad for Corey Magette…. so wait lemme think….. hmmmm….hmmmmmmm…..

    NO

  • LALakers1

    [quote comment="12427"]I agree with Hamm99…

    so you take out Aaron williams, and you think the trade works now???… in the words of hamm… “insanse”

    turaif and farmar… PROBABLY equal al thorton…. in terms of market value…

    so it comes down to V.Rad for Corey Magette…. so wait lemme think….. hmmmm….hmmmmmmm…..

    NO[/quote]

    Clippers would get help at C which is needed after Eltons Injury, also since Livingston is out in real need of help at Pg with Jordan Farmar, Maurice Evans PPG 8.4 | RPG 2.9 | APG 1 and you get a shooter in Radmanovic Plues throw in a 1st round pick.

    Look at Aaron Wiliams Stats last year PPG 2 | RPG 2.2 | BPG 0.4.

    Revised 3 Trade Deal

    Teams invloved: Lakers, Clippers & Pacers.

    Lakers Outgoing Players: Andrew Bynum, Vladimir Radmanovic, Sasha Vujacic, Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar, Maurice Evans & Ronny Turiaf.

    Clippers Outgoing Players: Al Thornton, Aaron Williams & Corey Maggette.

    Pacers Outgoing Players: Jermaine Oneal & Darrell Armstrong.

    Lakers Incoming Players: Jermaine Oneal, Aaron Williams, Al Thornton & Darrel Armstrong.

    Clippers Incoming Players: Jordan Farmar, Maurice Evans, Ronny Turiaf & Vladimir Radmanovic. Throw In 1st round pick.

    Indiana Incoming Players: Andrew Bynum, Sasha Vujacic, Kwame Brown & Corey Maggette.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=24~615~497~3237~923~981~2748~1031~3002~1016~2789~2421&teams=13~13~11~13~13~11~11~12~12~12~12~11&te=&cash=

    Thanks for your time & consideration Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation.

    G.M. Miguel Salazar.

  • LALakers1

    Dear Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation,

    I appreciate your responses to my trade ideas Fatty, Shaq786 & Hamm99. Here is a revised Trade Idea with your suggestions.

    Revised 3 Trade Idea: version 4

    Teams invloved: Lakers, Clippers & Pacers.

    Lakers Outgoing Players: Andrew Bynum, Vladimir Radmanovic, Sasha Vujacic, Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar, Maurice Evans & Ronny Turiaf.

    Clippers Outgoing Players: Al Thornton & Corey Maggette.

    Pacers Outgoing Players: Jermaine Oneal, Shawne Williams & David Harrison.

    Lakers Incoming Players: Jermaine Oneal, Shawne Williams, David Harrison & Al Thornton.

    Clippers Incoming Players: Jordan Farmar, Maurice Evans, Ronny Turiaf & Vladimir Radmanovic. Add 08 1st round pick.

    Indiana Incoming Players: Andrew Bynum, Sasha Vujacic, Kwame Brown & Corey Maggette. Add 08 2nd round pick or 09 1st round pick.

    Trade Machine Link:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2383~615~3038~497~3237~981~2748~1031~3002~1016~2789~2421&teams=13~13~13~11~13~11~11~12~12~12~12~11&te=&cash=

    Indiana gets a Young Center Prospect In Bynum, A scorer in Maggette to fill in fo J.O., Kwame Brown 9 mill Expiring contract for 08 Free Agency, Sasha toung talent filler and 08 2nd round pick or 09 1st round pick. If had to even give both those picks to make it work.

    Clippers get young Pg prospect in Jordan Farmar to help at PG, help at C with hustling and full of energy Ronnie Turiaf, and another good rebounder and hustler in Mo Evans. Plus Lakers08 1st round pick.

    Thanks for your time and consideration, Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation.

    G.M. Miguel Salazar

  • lakerspride1189

    First trade: Kwame Brown, Andrew Bynum, Jordan Farmar, 2008 1st Round draft pick, rights to Sun Yue and Marc Gasol to New Jersey for Jason Kidd. This gives New Jersey the fresh faces it wants in Farmar and Bynum as well as the opportunity for more fresh pickups in the 08 draft. It also gives them a supplemental inside presence with Kwame. Some may argue this is not enough for Kidd, but I think that NJ is now desperate for new players to do some rebuilding around (think about the interest they had in Bynum last year), therefore, I do think it would work. NJ is not stupid, they realize that Jefferson and Kidd have expiring careers and that after they are done, VC is not stable enough to carry the load himself. Thinking 3-4 years down the road, this trade makes perfect sense for NJ. The Lakers get PG Jason Kidd and finally get a point guard with the intelligence to make the triangle run and not let the offense decompose down to Kobe-ball every other possesion.

    Second Trade: Brian Cook, Mo Evans, Vlad Rad, and Sasha Vujacic and ALL 2009 draft picks for Marcus Camby and Reggie Evans. The key highlight of this draft is obviously Marcus Camby. For Denver, this is much needed to free up some cap room (Denver is 27 million over the cap and Mo Evans and Sasha’s contracts both expire next year, in comparison to the 3 years on Camby’s and 4 years on Evans contract). Also, Camby has become a bit of a health concern for Denver (05 he missed 16 games and 06 he missed 26 games). Lakers in Camby finally get the proven defensive post presence they need as well as developing post presence in Evans. This will be great for their spotty defense that was absolutely embarassing at times last year.

    Third trade: Jarvis C. and Ronny Turiaf for Joey Graham (Raptors). Graham was drafted in 2005 and would be acquired as a backup for Luke Walton. His stats show improvement each year since entering the league in 05. Raptors would continue building around Chris Bosh with Jarvis Crittenton and would also get a much needed energy played in Turiaf.

    The starting five then will be:
    PG- Kidd
    SG- Kobe
    SF- Walton
    PF- Lamar Odom
    C- Marcus Camby

    Reserves:
    PG- Derek Fisher
    SG- Coby Karl
    SF- Joey Graham
    PF- Reggie Evans
    C- Chris Mihm

    I realize that the bench would be spotty, but if neccessary someone could be brought up from the D-League. However, I strongly believe the potential this starting five has would outweigh any of the “ifs” of the bench. Kidd, Kobe, and Odom would become a heavyweight trio. Camby would be a monster defensive presence and Luke Walton would be the fundamental, selfless player he has proved himself to be and continue to fit wonderfully in the triangle O. This lineup staying healthy for 85% of the year and in the playoffs would stop the trend of early first round departures and shut any Kobe trade-talk up.

  • Shaq786

    I would like to propose one last trade.. i hope it will be considered…

    Trade: Kobe, Sasha, 2 milliion dollars, and Farmar… for Amare Stoudemire, Eric Piatowski, and Barbosa… it meets the challenge limit.. ($68,857,971.. total Salary, which is only $992,971 over the the Luxury tax threshold… and i have 5 million as the challenge limit)

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=110~3002~2421~2166~660~1727&teams=21~21~21~13~13~13&te=&cash=21:13

    LA Line up:

    D-fish/Javaris
    Barbosa/Maurice/Coby
    Odom/Walton/V.rad
    Amare/Turaif/V.rad
    Bynum/Kwame/Mihm

  • thehamm99

    shaq,

    Refer to rule #4: Do not trade Kobe Bryant.

    I’m beginning to think I’m the only “GM” with half a brain here.

  • LALakers1

    My Last Trade proposal

    Dear Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation,

    Trade # 1: Lakers & Clippers.

    Lakers Incoming Players: Al Thornton.

    Clippers Incoming Players: Jordan Farmar & Ronny Turiaf.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3002~2789~3237&teams=12~12~13&te=&cash=

    Trade# 2: Lakers, Timberwolves & Grizzlies.

    Lakers Incoming Players: Damon Stoudamire.

    Timberwolves Incoming Players: Kyle Lowry, Brian Cook & Sasha Vujacic. Maybe throw in a pick if necessary.

    Grizzlies Incoming Players: Juwan Howard.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1998~2421~351~3012~817&teams=16~16~29~16~13&te=&cash=

    Trade #3: Lakers & Pacers.

    Lakers Incoming Players: Jermaine O’neal.

    Pacers Incoming Players: Andrew Bynum, Vladimir Radmanovic, Kwame Brown, Maurice Evans.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1031~1016~615&teams=11~11~11~11~13&te=&cash=

    Then Try to Sign C. Webber, Ruben Patterson or any help that we can afford and get.

    Lakers Potential Line Ups:

    #1

    Fisher/Stoudamire/C.Karl
    Kobe/Critt
    L.O./Luke
    J.O./Al Thornton
    Mihm/Webber?/LarryTurner

    #2

    Fisher/Stoudamire/C.Karl
    Kobe/Crittenton
    Luke/Al Thornton
    L.O./Webber?
    J.O./Mihm/LarryTurner

    Thanks for your time & consideration Buss Family, Lakers Organization & Lakers Nation.

    G.M. Miguel Salazar.

  • LALakers1

    Trade # 1: Lakers & Clippers.

    Lakers Incoming Players: Al Thornton.

    Clippers Incoming Players: Jordan Farmar & Ronny Turiaf.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3002~2789~3237&teams=12~12~13&te=&cash=

    Trade# 2: Lakers, Timberwolves & Grizzlies.

    Lakers Incoming Players: Damon Stoudamire.

    Timberwolves Incoming Players: Kyle Lowry, Brian Cook & Sasha Vujacic. Maybe throw in a pick if necessary.

    Grizzlies Incoming Players: Juwan Howard.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1998~2421~351~3012~817&teams=16~16~29~16~13&te=&cash=

    Trade #3: Lakers & Pacers.

    Lakers Incoming Players: Jermaine O’neal.

    Pacers Incoming Players: Andrew Bynum, Vladimir Radmanovic, Kwame Brown, Maurice Evans.

    Trade Machine Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1031~1016~615&teams=11~11~11~11~13&te=&cash=

    Then Try to Sign C. Webber, Ruben Patterson or any help that we can afford and get.

    Lakers Potential Line Ups:

    #1

    Fisher/Stoudamire/C.Karl
    Kobe/Critt
    L.O./Luke
    J.O./Al Thornton
    Mihm/Webber?/LarryTurner

    #2

    Fisher/Stoudamire/C.Karl
    Kobe/Crittenton
    Luke/Al Thornton
    L.O./Webber?
    J.O./Mihm/LarryTurner

    Any thoughts or suggestion?

    Why or why not??

    Thanks Miguel

  • The Nugget

    Comments closed. Will have a winner for you by today. :)