Bynum to undergo MRI on right knee

Return delayed but what’s the rush?

O.C. Register: Andrew Bynum said he’ll undergo an MRI exam on his right knee Tuesday, and with medical clearance will then begin jumping and lateral movements on the court. He said, however, he will not join team practice for a week or two weeks after that, meaning he’ll miss his goal of doing that by Thanksgiving by a significant margin. Phil Jackson has projected a Dec. 10 season debut for Bynum, even though Bynum told Jackson the timetable was probably a week later than Jackson was suggesting. Bynum’s comments Monday jibe more with a Dec. 17 debut. “It’s not a good feeling, but at the end of the day, I have to be healthy for the long term,” Bynum said. “My career is still young, and I want to be able to play as many years as possible.”

  • Ruin818

    Our future isnt looking so bright if the Lakers plan to build around Bynum… As much as it pains me to say it, we need to trade him for another young player that will actually play. I know many of you will disagree with me until he goes down one more time and then goes down again the following year. But it could be worse, we could be watching a player we passed up being mentioned as a possible MVP candidate while the player we drafter instead of him has gone down with a season ending injury for the 3rd straight year… MAN… Portland must be hating themselves..

    • http://www.twitter.com/kevinsmoore Moorepower310

      I agree with you but this is his last chance with me. I say sit out as long as you have to because once he comes back we are expecting him to last all season and all the way through the playoffs. If his knee is still a problem then it’s time to trade him and take what you can get.

      I really do like Bynum, he has a great attitude, doesn’t go on emotional riots, and he has a ton of potential, nothing would make me more happy than to see him come back and stay healthy, if that happens, well that’s just about better than any trade I can imagine happening. But still business is business, and when you’re a Laker you have to be ready to work.

      • Ruin818

        Agree with you %100.. this is his last chance, and he should take his time coming back this time, because as you said… When he does come back, I (and Im sure we all) expect him to start to play to his potential, cause thats all we talk about.. his potential) but we also cant deny the fact that Lamar and Gasol click and play together VERY well when it’s just the 2 of them crashing the boards..

      • NBAmazingKB24

        last chance might be a little too late
        he gets hurt one more time
        there are not much teams that will want him
        we might be stuck with him
        So he better come back healthy and stay healthy

        • http://foxsports.com thomas coleman

          How about Bynum, Walton and “the machine” for Blake Griffin – That would spell dynasty!

        • NBAmazkingKB24

          Blake is a fantastic player
          he is a monster at times

  • rondo

    I am glad that Andrew Bynum is healing and will be back with the Lakers real soon. I am also happy that he’s coming back from an injury and surgery and not going into surgery like Greg Odon. Some fans need to stop bad mouthing Bynum, and start wishing him many years of good health.They need to stop looking at the glass from a half empty standpoint. Because his staying healthy will always benefit the lakers in the long run.

    • LeaderFish

      That is like saying to laker fans stop acting like spoiled children. Unfortunately if more laker fans were like you we would have a more respected fan base. Instead laker fans are looked as spoiled children.

  • rondo

    Ruin818 you are in the wrong business if you can predict the future.

    • Ruin818

      Ha Ha.. its not hard to predict the future when you see a pattern occuring. Im not hoping he gets injured again (knock on wood or laffs at u’s head) but I just call it how I see it… Just like I said when Kobe wanted out a couple years back.. Im a laker fan first, then I support our players. So we’ll just wait and see what happens.

      • T

        The best predictor of his future is his past.

        • daboss1848

          “Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It”

          • 242LakerFan

            “I did not have sexual relations with that woman – Miss Lewinsky.”

  • gus26

    he should just get super healthy and in shape and come back after the all star break… the medical staff knows what’s up with his knee… they know if he can truly have a long carreer like he wants… IF they feel like he can’t hold up he’ll get traded… i think at this point, with their starters all 30+ they have to play for NOW and worry about the future in the future…
    before all the trade bynum comments start… there is NO WAY they trade him now… not with his value so low… and thats why Bynum is the ultimate catch 22.. you wanna trade him because he always gets hurt but you can only trade him for full value when he’s healthy.. and when he’s healthy you can’t find equal value for him and he fits in soooo good you don’t want to trade him…
    GET HEALTHY DREW!!…

  • lakerman1

    We really cannot trade the big man no matter how often he gets hurt. I have also thought in the past we should get what we can for him until i realized i was speaking with my heart and not my head. We cannot at this point send Bynum to any other team unless we can get Howard, it really would be stupid to do anything other than that. I think if he takes his time he will be better when the lakers will really need him. A 12 & 2 record w/o him means they will be stronger with him after the Allstars. Drew is a great athlete when he is healthy i dare anyone to deny that. As a Laker team fan I will stop bashing him and hope for a healthy return.

  • ICE CREAM MAN

    I, for one, am tired of Bynum’s antics. Here me out…as soon as the season ended, he decided to go to the world cup and not have knee surgery. He decided to work harder the off season that kobe mentioned they should of traded him if not he would of still had baby fat. He is ALWAYS getting hurt like a tall Fluke. This team needs another tallish player. What team will trade for a young champion center that gets hurt yearly for a good tallish player? I’ll trade him straight up for Clipper’s Kaman or Denver’s NENE or Buck’s Bogut. I’ll even give up Bynum, Sasha, Caracter for Magic’s Howard.

    • daboss1848

      World Cup is once every 4 years – dont minimize it!!!!
      .
      Besides, he “got hurt on company time, so [he'll] heal on company time.” Sound familiar?

      • daboss1848

        does no1 understand light hearted banter? (this wreaks of sarcasm)

    • http://espn.com LakersFirst

      Kaman!!! He is hurt every season

      Nene: Lakers would simply get smaller

      Bogut: Did you see what happend to his elbow last year? Already this season, he has having problems with his elbow

      Bynum, Sasha, Caracter for Magic’s Howard – Yea, because Orlando is going to trade their franchise player.

      You need to think before you speak.

      • ICE CREAM MAN

        First of all who cares the world cup is every 4 years…He needs to take care of himself first. Yeah, got hurt on company’s time but the last time some one said that he was fired and now he is fat and surrounded by idiots. As far as trading Bynum to the Magic…what’s wrong w/ trading their francise player?….The way you are sticking up for Bynum seems to me that Bynum is our franchise player. Listen to me when I say “He will never be a franchise player, he is a good starter but NEVER a franchise player.” Here is the difference from Bynum and Kaman, Nene, and Bogut….at least these other guys are contributing this year to their teams. I’m sorry but I’m just saying that this rate Pau is going to burn up. We need some one soon. If trading Bynum will get us some one that is healthy then let’s do it.

        • Ruin818

          i co-sign on that

      • http://espn.com LakersFirst

        I’m not saying that Bynum is our franchise player or will be one, so don’t put words on in my mouth.

        Do you really think Orlando is going to trade Dwight Howard??? Be serious, you never trade your franchise player unless he demands it. Orlando will NEVER trade Dwight Howard, unless he demands it or has expressed unhappiness and it is clear that we will not resign. Put down the ice cream and use your head.

        If Bynum is going to be traded, then it MUST be for someone that keeps the Lakers the same in size. The guys you mention are all smaller than Bynum and you DO NOT trade down in size. Kaman is not contributing to his team (he’s injured), Bogut is not the same player since his elbow injury. If you think it’s good to trade for a guy that just had elbow surgery a few months ago, then you must have a brain freeze from all the ice cream. Nene is ok, but he makes the Lakers smaller.

    • NBAmazingKB24

      just shows how much he lack in passion for the game

  • ICE CREAM MAN

    We need Bynum’s size but not Bynum. Hell bring back Mihm. He had heart.

  • kobeFINALMVP2011

    damn the lakers going to be even deeper due to bynum coming back for christmas game ahahah

  • Pastorius

    Bynum said. “My career is still young, and I want to be able to play as many years as possible.”

    We’ve been hearing that for four years now, right?

    Fer chrissakes.

  • Laker guru

    I see no reason why you are making a big deal. The big guy showed us guts and perseverance throughout the entire playoffs as he played hurt. Allow him to take his time to himself and to now recover and get back for this season. Just makes us that much better and deeper.

    • bbz62

      he could of did this right after last season instead of watching soccer.

  • Boococky

    Bynum is a paycheck player and will always be one. He didn’t even start playing the game until his junior year. He figured i’m 7 feet tall might as well get paid. The man doesn’t love the game. This is what makes Kobe special in basketball. Kobe plays hurt and gives it his all every game. Heal when your retired bynum, don’t be another Shaq please…

  • bbz62

    i am so over bynum. get brook lopez imo or if the gods really smiled on us… superman – d_howard

    • ICE CREAM MAN

      I agree. How many years left on d-howard contract? Maybe we can just sign him like we did w/ shaq.

  • lakers0828

    All I hope is that Bynum is good to go and we dont have to keep hearing the words not ready

  • rondo

    I saw Wilt, Bill,Thurmond, Zelmo Beaty,and Wayne Embery play. I have seen the Best of the Best so I know when i see talent, Most of you guys don’t know what the hell you are talking about when you say get rid of Bynum. Rule number one you never trade a big for a small. and most of the players you guys want will never be as good as Bynum is going to be, The only one who understand that is the Los Angeles Lakers management. Use you mind on not your emotions because if the Lakers trade Bynum he would go some where else and become a superstar. Thats why the Los Angeles Laker think you guys are a bunch of nuts! Andrew Is the Laker star of the future.

    • Ruin818

      I agree with what you’re saying.. but lets speak truth.. Oden has potential and talent.. Has he played?? is he a valuable trade asset right now?? Hell no… you’re right.. never trade a big for a small….. Unless it would benefit both parties involved. Players are investments for teams, this is a business and he is not earning his money. The players you mentioned are Legends and did more than earn their money and played for the love of the game (which i and many of us here dont see in bynum)… so he played thru some pain, how many athletes dont, but he’s a laker and we appreciated him for that and supported him, but one more thing Lakers management knows is that our current teams is under contract only for a couple years more and the Lakers are a winning franchise and have to start to thinking about the future at this point and again.. lets be honest, if they put the lakers on Bynums’ back, his knees would buckle. So my opinion, my heart, and my brain tell me pursue Carmello and offer Bynum cause Kobe has a lot of mileage on him already and wont be around forever.. So i would feel a lot better to build around Carmello (who produces) than around Bynum who quite simply at this point you could argue “could” produce. Its a long shot, but its just and idea, and sometimes all it takes is an idea… Just ask Jerry west when he had an insane idea to trade our starting center for some young kid named Kobe Bryant.

    • daboss1848

      relax, a little . . . to compare Bynum to one of those guys is like comparing Anfernee Hardaway and Jalen Rose to Magic Johnson (yes, they’re all big and play pg – that’s it)
      .
      Bottom Line on Bynum is that hes a tremendous potential and upside, which will most likely not be reached b/c of his physical make-up (he is medically prone to leg injuries – this is documented).
      .
      Is he our Sam Bowie, Bill Walton, Greg Oden?

    • lakers0828

      So You can say the same thing about Greg Oden right ?

  • kevin

    Man, just trade his lazy ass to memphis for marc.
    Gasol as least that guy si really want to play and this bynum is so damn lazy

  • We are the champions

    Lets stop this nonsense about traing big B. guys.
    How quickly we forget that if we idnt have him last year in the playoffs we would have lost again to the Celtics.
    We dont need Carmello and his bad attitude.
    As far as the future i vote for bringing Durant to LA not Melo. Hes got more class more game then Melo any day of the week.+ we have Artest/Barnes for the SF position and they do a great job with that. We need a lagit big which is Bynum. No 1 is gonna trade Bynum for Howard thats insane their scared of the Lakers as it is why would they make us so much better. Howard and Gasol?
    Are u crazy it would be blowout city. As much as I would love to see that its not happening. Lets not worry about the future just yet. Lets relax and enjoy this team for the next 2 and a half years and let the Lakers staff worry about that.
    Just for fun Ill give you a hypothetical future scenario.

    If Bynum works out then u trade Gasol at the age of 33 + Barnes for Durant and with Kobe lets say retiring, now you have close to 20 mil a year off your books so you go get Deron Williams or Stephen Curry.for PG
    So here is how it looks.
    Bynum
    Odom/Characrer
    Durant/Ebanks
    Brown
    Williams/Curry (DWill or Curry)
    Hows thats for a starting five?
    And if Bynum is not working out u trade him to Indiana for Hibbert.
    Just a Scenario guys.

    • ICE CREAM MAN

      The starting five sounds weak. Lakers require star players not player. Odom is still playing after 3 years? Post Kobe era, the Lakers would need Gasol, Durant and Howard. That’s it.

  • ICE CREAM MAN

    I agree totaly with Ruin818. People say “You never trade big for small.” Now that’s stupid especially if small is much better than big. Example, portland went after sam bowie (big) instead of Jordan (small). Clippers went after Olowakondi (big) instead of vince carter (small). I remember that clippers would say..”you cant teach big” what a mistake. In Bynum’s case, he is a big guy that when healthy is effective that’s why he is a prime candidate to trade especially if you pair him up w/ another player like sasha’s expiring contract. We need to look into the future of the Lakers and bynum is not it.

    • http://espn.com LakersFirst

      You clearly do not know the key to championships. Unless your initials are MJ, the key to championships are big men. Just ask Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Shaq, Hakeem Olajuwon, Bill Walton, Kareem, Tim Duncan, Pau Gasol, David Robinson and the list can continue.

      Now I’m not saying Bynum is going to be as great as the big men I just mentioned, but it is proven time and time again, “bigs” are the keys to championships.

      • ICE CREAM MAN

        EXACTLY…Lets go after D-Howard. I think his name can be mentioned with the elite, but clearly you must think Bynum is up there. I am saying that we need a guy to compliment Pau. Bynum might be him IF HE STOPS GETTING HURT ALL THE TIME!!! Since we all know he will get hurt again and again and again, it’s time to unload him. If you still think he is not a sinking ship then you must be the guy who was telling the dudes in the titanic to bring you up a scotch on the rocks to your room even though the boat was sinking.

  • rondo

    What the hell are you talking about Ice Cream Man ? You just don’t have a clue. Young man stop thinking with you emotions. Bynum is your future if you choose to
    stay a Laker fan . Your bonehead comments have no substance to it. The Lakers will not get rid of Bynum because you have a strong dislike for Bynum. Trying to compare Bynum with Olowakondi tells my how much you know about basketball. Remember you don’t trade a big for a small.

    • ICE CREAM MAN

      Stop it! I am telling you what my feelings are about this kid. I see Kobe and I see a hustler, I see shannon brown and I see hustle, I see sasha and even though he is no good at times, he still hustles. I saw that in Bynum the year he came back when Kobe called him out. Yes he is hurt but don’t you think that he should of taken care of his knee asap and not wait till the end of the world cup? If you got hurt at work and the injury required surgery, do you think you can get away from it because you wanted to wait till the week after new years only because you wanted to go to the parties first. How do you think your fellow employees would feel about them doing your job while you are out later then you could of been? Time to man up. And by the ways, Bynum is not our future. Again he is a good starter but not a Future.

  • rondo

    And (Kevin) you sound like a fat couch potatoe. A man in great shape would never call a pro player lazy.

    • 242LakerFan

      That’s right, Kevin.
      And unless you’re from Spain, you shouldn’t be calling Pau Spanish, either. And if you’re under 6′ you have no right to call Yao Ming tall. Get your act together, man! What do you think this is, a forum for expressing your opinions or something? Jeeeeez!
      Oh yeah, and don’t call people produce unless you actually know how to spell potato!
      Oh, wait…

    • 242LakerFan

      rondo? Are you Dan Quayle in the RW?

  • We are the champions

    Hey Ice Cream Man U dont think Dwill is a star player? are u kidding? We have 2 star players now and we would have 2 star players in my suggested starting lineup (+ Bynum and Odom) of the future. + u dont think odom can play when his 33? Durant/Odom/Dwill and Brown can all shoot and drive + a solid center and u think thats week? how do u plan on paying Gasol/Durant and Howard? what u would have is another miami with 3 star players and garbage surrounding them. No good role players no championship.

    • ICE CREAM MAN

      You are right, Dwill would be a great pick up. Plus there is no guarantee that the triangle will still be in effect after Phil leaves. As far as how would I pay those three, I could put a jar on the edge of my side window on my truck and tell the parents and kids to add in to the jar to help with the salaries of our superstars. Hey that’s my way of helping, what’s yours? At least I’m trying.

  • Robert.

    Need to remember that Bynum didn’t just ‘play injured’. As a big, it is ‘very important’ to keep your legs in top shape. Case in point, Yao Ming, Greg Oden, etc. These are ‘very big men’.
    .
    So, Bynum didn’t just ‘play injured’ in the Finals — he did MORE DAMAGE to the knee. It isn’t just ‘oh, why doesn’t he just play through pain’. For a BIG, playing through pain, especially the knees, could be doing ‘irreversible damage’.
    .
    Kobe is a lean machine, smaller than Drew, and has less weight on his knees. Kobe damaged his knees, and would definitely not play beyond his knees’ ‘elastic limit’. In fact, he looks like he’s still ‘favoring’ the knee. He’s not going to play in a way which would endanger it further.
    .
    In the meantime, Drew (and many bigs) are ‘less flexible’ than the smaller basketball players. So if they get into a compromising position, they can do huge damage (with all that weight).
    .
    Keeping this in mind, Drew played ‘through’ a VERY RISKY situation, and so this is the way it is. The fact that he has been able to heal (many times), is encouraging. Yao had to take a year off. Amar’e had to take a year off. Oden had to take a year off. Drew hasn’t done that yet. He has played ‘most’ or ‘some’ of the season, which is good for a big.
    .
    The exceptions to these ‘big’ problems are Kareem (who was healthy for years, up to his retirement), Wilt, Dwight Howard, etc. Certain ‘big’ body types are able to withstand the pressure of weight on the knees. Many ‘can’t’.
    .
    It will be ok with Drew.

    • Ruin818

      A torn cartilage will not creat more damage, if it tears completely it might even get rid of the pain and in some cases doesnt even need to be repaired. Why do you think he was even allowed or cleared to play??? as I said before, these players are team investments. All Bynum did was play with pain, not shortened his career by playing with this injury. i know what you’re gonna say and no.. I’m not a Dr. or a surgeon.. I just work with about 10 of them who happen to be laker fans and discuss all this and go into intricate detail about certain players injuries and Im just lucky enough to absorb the knowledge.. However Bynum (by his own admission) did shorted his career by not taking care of his body or working out as hard as he should have. Oh… and if you’re thinking he played thru just oh so agonizing pain, he received injections before the game to ease the pain which some of us have never even heard of cause they’re pretty expensive. Torn muscles and disrupted bone function such as breaks or dislocations are the real problems. And the players you mentioned above who just happen to be exceptions, as radical as it sounds, they all had one thing in common… They all take or took tremendous care of their bodies. Bynum…. uhmmm.. not so much (again.. his own admission)

  • 242LakerFan

    You know I don’t know why there’s all this debate. I mean, it seems pretty clear that the Lakers can’t win a championship with Bynum. I mean just look at the record!

  • rondo

    242 LakerFan: My bad!

  • rondo

    Robert: You hit the nail right on the head. Very well said.

  • ICE CREAM MAN

    I don’t hate him at all. In fact, if there was a story about him doing jumping drills or something I would root for him asap.

  • Juncast

    To me, as long as he is healthy and be able to contribute in the playoffs fine with me. He will be a superweapon for the team if he just come up healthy and play for the lakers in the playoffs

  • rondo

    Hey Kevin are you still on that couch? Lazy azz.

  • Mark

    Bynum is out of chances with me. As another said once he’s hurt again he’s worthless as a trade. Trade Bynum and Vujacic to Memphis for Marc Gasol. He doesn’t need a bunch of touches, doesn’t need plays called for him and he’s a workhorse. Besides he’d get better playing with Pau and the Laker System.