Bill Simmons: LeBron is better than Kobe

Bill Simmons wrote a huge article on why LeBron James is the best player on the planet. He even claims the argument is over. Check it off, sound-off.

ESPN: “Know this: The Kobe-LeBron argument is dead. It’s over,” Simmons writes. “LeBron James is the best basketball player alive.”

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  • desecrator93

    Well, if you were to ask me to go with my brain and not my heart, I’d give the slight edge to Lebron. I want him to fail and always be in KB’s shadow but I think that currently, he’s the better player. But I do think history will regard Kobe as the better player because I think he’ll get more rings. Simmon’s can say Lebron is better but to say its not even close is just pure haterism. F*ck you and your gay ass lepricauns who wont even get out the second round!!

    • Kid Kaos 310

      Simmons neglects to mention that LeBron and the Cavs were playing against the Clippers – a team that should be moved to San Diego – who have a near to dead fan base. I was there, and I can tell you that the cheers and boos were just as loud for both teams.
      Does this happen when LeBron plays the Celtics? Does this happen when he plays Orlando or the Lakers?

    • Tutt

      desecrator93 u are a serious hater

  • lakeb

    id love to see lebron get 4 rings, score 81 points in a game, win a finals mvp, WIN A DUNK CONTEST…….BILL SIMMONS IS A CLOWN

    • Tutt

      i would also like to see kobe pass the ball more and get more triple doubles.and i would also like to see the lakers beat cavs this year in 2010 after that lost 2@ games straight

  • LakerZombie

    The fact that he’s even making that statement discredits his whole Lebron loving article. Why throw that in if not just to start a flame war? lol I mean the article was about how polarzing Lebron is as an NBA player. Why even mention Kobe? Bill Simmons you’re better than that ;)

    • roscoe

      pointless to mention kobe yes. but it wasn’t about how polarizing lebron is at all. in fact, he’s saying the opposite. kobe is polarizing, you love or hate. pretty much everyone loves lebron or at least likes him. no one really hates him (besides some LA fans) but it’s not like you wanna see the guy die in a grease fire hate that some have for kobe,

      • ilikebasketball

        i hate him.

        i think if he is what is next in the nba the nba will suffer and lose fans.

        he is a running back, who bulldozes his way into the lane. makes it or gets a foul shot.

        and constantly does things like he did in the jazz game where he just takes a step back and hits a three and the refs just look away.
        kenny and charles laughed about how insane that was.

        • Tutt

          Damn we got some serious haters on here

  • Jabba

    bill simons is a bs… he doesnt know Kobe is injured

    • Tutt

      bullshit the only thing kobe had this season in 2010 was a jammed finger and the cavs whipped there assbecause kobe as i said before is a ball hog

  • Jabba

    if Lebron is better then kobe y hasnt Lebron have 81 points in a game like Kobe did?

    • desecrator93

      I think he’s talking about who’s better CURRENTLY, not from 3 years ago.

      • LakerZombie

        Ya but better how? Better at addressing the media? Better at leading a team to a title? Better at hosting the Espy’s? LOL…they play different positions. Thats like arguing Dirk is better than Steve Nash. Who you got? NASH? NOWITZKI?! ;)

        • desecrator93

          yeah thats a good point that they play totally different and at different positions. But again, he’s not talking about what they did in the past (i.e. Kobe having more titles, more scoring feats), he means who is a better player CURRENTLY, or, for this season. I think thats what BS is tryin to say, cuz he cant be that much of a retard to say that Lebron has a better resume than Kobe right now.

          • lakersfan63

            Well of course he’s better currently, Kobe has been playing with all sorts of ailments and injuries. Catch Kobe when he’s 100% healthy and it’d be a different story.

      • ilikebasketball

        then currently, yes, lebron is better.
        since kobe has two broken fingeres and back spasms.
        i agree, as of this moment right now lebron is better.

    • Tutt

      because jabba bron actually pass the ball

      • John Patric

        Hey TUT, Hows that Lebron thing working for you nowadays. Fuck Cleveland and the cavaliers

  • mamba1108

    Wow only read part of that article and almost have to kill myself.

  • http://www.myspace.com/626bones Lakers 24 7

    You guys, Kobe scored 81 because his team needed him to. We were down 20 at home to the Raptors. It’s not like Kobe came out the gates with a mentality that he’s gonna score 81. The Lakers were down big, Kobe took over, and at the end of the game, it happened to be 81 points. lol So, cut that “Why can’t LeBron score 81?’, probably because he doesn’t need to score 81.

    • desecrator93

      I think Lebron can score 81 if he put his mind to it. Theres nobody in the league who can stop that guy, not even that great Celtics defense from 08 was able to stop him.

      • LakerZombie

        I get what you’re saying. But again all he needed to say was Lebron is the best player currently playing. His Kobe hate is what lead him to throw Kobe in there. Now granted we’re all on here mostly trying to defend our precious No. 24….but i will say i dont argue that Lebron is the best overall player NOW…..i just dont need to justify that by claiming someone else…kobe or not is no longer relevant.

      • kobe-wan kenobi

        right
        maybe u just forgot the first 3 games when lbj shooting 13%
        if that is not stopping
        what is it?

    • ilikebasketball

      please, he needed to last year in the eastern conference finals.

  • lex

    This is’nt even an argument Kobe is the 2nd greatest player of alltime next to the orginal #23. The thing is this, Labron is a great player he has the body of a power foward with the athleticism of a 2 guard so he is a very hard cover due to the fact he is the greatest athlete the game of basketball has ever seen, but that does not make him the greatest player with that being said he can hide a lot of his weakness, if you gave kobe or jordan Labron’s body with there passion and wit they would probably play center and avg. 60points. This is the sad thing Wade, Larbron,T.mac,carter……all know that they are not better. (take Kobe off the Redeem Team & they would have brought home Zinc.

    • desecrator93

      Lebron doesnt have that many weaknesses anymore dude. You act like he’s still the same guy as 2 years ago where he had almost no outside shot and played almost no defense. His outside shot is very good now and his 3-point-shot has been better than Kobe’s this year (and even before Kobe’s finger injury, Lebron was still shooting much better). I also think Lebron makes better decisions when he’s going through a shooting slump. Kobe will sometimes keep jackin up shots and I know that drives all of us here crazy. Lebron will just pass it to the open man and let his teamates do more of the offensive output. I love Kobe, but for this season, I think Lebron has been the better player. But I do think that history will regard KB as the better player :).

      • LakerZombie

        You hit the nail right on the head there muh man. Kobe’s killer instinct is GREATER than Lebrons, which to his fault makes him think he CAN make any shot and yes jacks up ridiculous shots. Lebron as you stated will defer and pass and most of the time thats the better decision. You gotta pick your poison with these guys. Only one has seen the payoff 4 more times than the other :)

      • lex

        it’s not about the numbers labron is’nt even in the same breath as kobe and if labron was honest like he’s said inthe past he’s not better than number 24.

  • BigplayDA10

    Simmons is a boston fan. It’s obvious he is going to side against the Lakers player.

    Who is the defending NBA Champion? Who currently has the best record in the league? Kobe, not LeBron is the answer to those questions. If you are one of the people that wants to look at numbers to try and say LeBron is better, how about you look at the only number that matters; Kobe: 4 Rings – Lebron: 0

    • pauer

      I recently saw him on Carson Daly promoting his new book and he said, “I love to HATE Kobe,” so its no shock that he writes in a way that shows his hate for him

  • remy

    as a lakers fan, of course I say kobe all day. but can somebody (preferably bill simmons) tell me how “greatness” is measure?

  • Lakeshow213

    Lebron is obviously the better athlete, simply cus of the age difference. Kobes 30. But to say that he’s a better player, being all around, it’s still Kobe. Lebrons a freak of nature whos an incredible athlete, but that can only take you so far. Offensively, and defensively KB24 is the best in the game. Lebron chases down blockshots which is amazing and is an excellent, HELP DEFENDER. When have we seen him lockdown another fellow all-star? Kobe will GUARD ANYBODY, even the much faster PG’s in the league. Offensively it’s KOBE by a landslide, for christ sake the guy is shooting left handed floaters, running hooks at least 2-3 times per game lol. His footwork and ability to get his shot off with great accuracy no matter how tough of a shot it is, is remarkable. Lebron on the other hand just lowers his shoulders, and rely’s on plenty of calls from the refs to get his game started. His jumper is improving but still he’s weakest link in his game. BETTER ATHLETE= LBJ.
    BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER= KB24

    • Craig

      Kobe was never the athlete lebron was so the age difference makes no sense

      • Artan

        HOW IS KOBE BETTER THAN LEBRON BY A LANDSLIDE ON OFFENSE CAN YOU PLEASE LOOK AT THE STATS OR WATCH A BASKETBALL GAME ?

  • lex

    If you put King james on the Lakers with the Mamba trust me he’s Scottie Pippen to Kobe’s airness.

    ask players in the nba they’ll tell u….

    ask coaches they’ll tell you…..

    kobse been the best player in the league sence Michael retired from the Bulls…. & he still is an he’s in his 30′s thats called being dominate, James will never be better than Jordan or Bryant those two are on their own planet 1a & 1b.

  • Randy’s Donuts

    In 3 years from now Kevin Durant will be better than LBJ. Kobe still the best in the league and I’m proud to have this guy rep the best franchise in the NBA. Go Lakers! We’re goin 8-0 on this road trip!

  • bostonSUCKS88

    Lets keep in mind, simmons is talking about who is better RIGHT NOW, not when its all said and done. Of course when both of their careers are over KB will have the better legacy. I think KB will be in the top 3 of all time. LBJ, im not sure yet, since he has yet to win a ring. But even right now, I would still give KB the slight edge over LBJ. Kb can do more things than lebron. Lebron is great at getting to the basket, but in everything else i would still take KB. This article is no surprise anyways, we all know Simmons hates the lakers and KB.

  • acee

    yeah.. if lebron isn’t stoppable why hasn’t he won a title. lebron can’t even compare if he isn’t a champion. kobe has 4.. so until then kobe is the best

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=525479878 Geloman

    Bill Simmons or anyone else for that matter can say whatever they want to say, but one thing is certain, Kobe’s jersey is tops in sales.

    • LakerZombie

      Basic math lol

      24 > 23

    • http://www.facebook.com/paulcamantigue Whatsa

      Omg whowouldathunkit?

  • Gino

    it’s hard to compare kobe with these injuries vs. queen james who’s relatively uninjured. i’d like to see him play with back spasms, broken finger, hyperextended knee, strained elbow, etc. honestly in this era, i just feel like LBJ = dominique wilkins. great athletic players, but won’t win the accolades of KB and MJ. I’d like to argue that Dwyane Wade > LBJ considering how he has a ring and he did it with a cast similar to LBJ’s. Sure KB has played like crap the past few games, but Mr. Bill Simmons you gotta keep things in perspective before you start hating on KB.

    • Craig

      Kobe is a drama queen trying to make a legacy for himself by acting like he is injured. Look at the medical term that was given about his finger. Essentially he has a jammed finger. Anybody that really believes his finger is broken is an idiot.

  • Greg Lee

    Kobe. Best. Player. Today. Not even close.

  • kobe-wan kenobi

    NOW
    with kobe having a broken finger and back spasms
    LBJ is definitely the better player
    no doubts about it

    but if kobe is ok
    i still get kobe

  • Jamar

    Kobe is still the best in the NBA. When you have to degrade player K to make a point then you are indirectly admitting that player K is better than player L. Kobe is the bench mark in the NBA. Kobe’s the total package (You get Everything you Want) while LeBron is the premier package( You some of the total package mixed in with the basics). You want both but if you had to chose you would go with the total package. Le Bron will rule the NBA one day but it want happen until Kobe is retired with 7 rings. Go Lakers!!!

    • joshLA

      very WELL SAID

    • Tutt

      nope your wrong if kobe is so much better how come bron average more points,assist,rebounds,blocks,steals

  • Myself

    Better than Kobe…..I don’t think so. If Bill Simmons wasn’t such a Laker Hater, he would notice that Lebron became a better player when Kobe taught him how to play “D” when they were on the Olympics B-Ball team together. And if Lebron was such a better player than Kobe, how come Lebron didn’t get that gold medal until Kobe showed up.

    • http://thelakersnation.com/blog/category/original-articles/benchmob-beat/ Anna Gonda

      Took the words right out of my mouth. IN FACT, all those Olympic teammates got better after having been on the team with Kobe.

    • Craig

      Coach K who coached the olympic team in an interview with charlie rose was obviously more impressed with lebron than kobe calling lebrons basketball IQ the highest he has ever seen.

  • Matt from Dallas

    Kobe is still the BEST and he will prove it once again in the playoffs this year. Idiots like Bill Simmons say shit like this every year and are proven WRONG every year lol

    Kobes injured and instead of taking a break he plays through it and his game dips alittle for a short while so thats when all the Kobe haters come out in full force like this little faggot.

  • Richard

    who is bill simmons? how many rings does Lebron have? Kobe is hurt by the way. Lebron might win a ring if he loses his ego.

  • Myself

    Here is all you need to know that Lebron isn’t better than Kobe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Du4KucPOw

  • gugy

    While LBJ might be playing better than Kobe now, I would say when Kobe is back at 100% healthy, there is no match.

    Truth of the matter, we all know Kobe is a superior player than LBJ. The issue I think Mr. BS is saying is that currently LBJ might have an edge over Kobe.

  • lakerville213

    simmons just LOVES to hate on the kobe and the lakers as does espn. espn is so biased towards lebron. its the passion of a celitcs’ fan to talk about how some other superstar on another team is better than the lakers’ best player and the best player on the planet, kobe bryant. bottomline: kobe: 4 rings lebron: zero. next thing you know, simmons and espn might even stoop so low as to say that lebron is better than jordan which is basketball, no wait, sports blasphemy. rankings of all-time greats: 1. jordan 2. kobe 3. magic 4. bird 5. kareem. im not too sure about that last one but the top 4 is definite. and speaking as a fan of the sport and putting aside the fact that im a laker fan, kobe still has plenty of time to surpass jordan. and i have ALWAYS believed that jordan is number 1. lebron will never ever be even as close to being as great as those until he gets some hardware because being defined as great goes beyond talent and popularity. its the magic that you bring to court.

    in conclusion, the bomb that will silence all the kobe haters and laker haters: lebron james in a laker uniform. a subtle “handing over the keys to the kingdom”. this was discussed on TLN before.

    i know it will never happen but just imagine how quiet all the critics would be. now THAT’s ripping out the hearts of simmons and the like and eating for lunch. espn would crumble. all the kings fans, “cavs fans”, spurs fans, celtic fans, suns fans, blazer fans, jazz fans, and all those who simply hate kobe and the lakers out of pure jealousy and spite would have their sports souls crushed. notice laker fans DO NOT hate on lebron james. laker fans acknowledge that he is the best physical specimen professional sports has ever seen. but to say he is the best basketball player is simply ludicrous and when we are insulted and spit on by those like bill simmons and other haters, true laker fans(not bandwagoners) will not back down from a fight.

    why its an “us against the world” situation since the three-peat era is for another discussion.

    sincerely,
    lakerville213

  • gugy

    Also,
    All of this is great because in the end who will get a ring it will be Kobe while prince James will leave the court once again without congratulating his opponent.

    Wanna bet? lol

  • LakerZombie

    By the way just to throw my own fuel a la BS on the Kobe/Lebron fire im still not convinved that LBJs campaign against retiring the no.23 jersey was in fact an admission by him that he should never have picked 23 and was envious that Kobe snagged 24 before he did. Why go with 23 your whole career then all of sudden it should be retired and NO ONE should wear it. LOL

    • LakerZombie

      *was NOT in fact

  • fLAV

    I admit that LBJ is playing better than Kobe (for the last month), but Kobe has been playing at less than 100% lately. Simmons is bias though and you guys know this. Gotta love that this comes out prior to the Thursday night matchup.

  • Djzzero2009

    I wouldnt say Lebron is the best player in the league, but I have to say he is the best athlete that ever played nba basketball. But HELL NO on the best player alive.

    He is a beast, but not better than kobe.

  • lakeshow2010

    he must have been HIGH as shit when he wrote this, because we all know lebron is not that good. he cant even drippled the ball right. he just not at kobe level and he will never be. on the other hand kobe is just the master this guy is the top 3 basketball player ever all time, lebron is like top 100 at most maybe top 150

  • Basit

    Keep in mind, Kobe hit three buzzer-beaters in a span of 4 weeks, Lebrons hit 2 his entire career. Lebron has better field goal percentage because all his shots are at the rim. Kobe said, “I like taking a lot of threes for the fun of it.” Tell me if Lebron would play with TWO broken fingures or with back spasms. Even a flu. Yea. I don’t think so. If Lebron were so good why not be in the dunk contest. Why does Kobe need to be in it for him to participate. Is he too scared to lose to Shannon Brown for a second time?

  • LakeShowAllDay

    wut u smoke mr.simmons

  • k B i ll s 0 6

    Anyone who knows of Bill Simmons knows he’s a Celtics fan. In other words, he’s a biased sportswriter and I cannot believe that ESPN lets him write articles on anything other than his Celtics, because to be honest, he’s not good for anything else. His opinions on anything outside of the Celtics, Red Sox, Bruins, and Patriots are nothing but biased opinions based off of his beloved teams. If LeBron is so good, why has he not even won a NBA Finals GAME, let alone a ring? Say what you want about the supporting cast…Cleveland has had a equivalent supporting cast to the Lakers the past few years…the difference is KOBE has willed his team to win. He’s an assassin….LeBron isn’t. Until LeBron gets half the killer-instinct Kobe has, Bill Simmons should keep his mouth shut about the best player in the world argument, because it’s already settled. KOBE BRYANT.

  • TOUCHING_MYSELF

    Bill Simmons is just like Snaq, he needs to stir up some controversy for anyone to pay any attention to him. He boldly states that “The Kobe-LeBron argument is dead. It’s over. LeBron James is the best basketball player alive.” and yet he never really gives any reasons as to why that would be true for him.

    The only thing that he’s gotten right in his article about LeBrick is that “It’s like watching a super-coordinated, mutant 4-year-old dealing with a severe sugar rush.” LeHype is a 4-year-old by his maturity in dealing with his dunk gate and not being a good sport by not shaking Dwight Howard’s hands and also for not being in the Dunk Contest because he knows he can’t win it!

    It’s no wonder Bill Simmons likes LeCrap, they’re both clowns. There’s something else that this jerk off forgot to mention and it’s that Kobe had to deal with a big baby in Shaq in his earlier years and couldn’t develop his game the way that he could’ve like a Jordan or LeBum could’ve. Both Jordan and LeBum were basically given a team and told to run it. Kobe had to wait his turn and yet look at his numbers and all the amazing feats that he’s accomplished! If those other 2 were in the same shoes to start their careers off, they would’ve be nearly as impressive!

    I’m glad that Dildo Simmons wrote this article… just extra fuel for the fire to burn within Kobe Bryant come Thursday night. I know one thing’s for sure, Kobe’s gonna take it to LeBaby and get the win!

    FCUK BILL SIMMONS!!!!!!!!!!!
    FCUK LECRIPPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    FCUK SNAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    GO KOBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ScorpyDoo2

    I just woke up and saw this article all over the net and i was laughing HARD! wahahahahahahha!! WE need more people like TOUCHING_MYSELF, you made my daY! hahaha!
    i also saw this in facebook almost 80% disagreed hahaha!

  • lordnykn

    Too bad simmons doesn’t have the comment system on that article. Would of been a fun debate. Remember Kobe was playin out of his mind (with injured finger) and all talk of mvp was on him. Kobe still ballin like that n BS wouldnt have said that statement. What happens when lakers go 8-0 on road trip( more prolly 7-1 one loss on a second of back 2 back) kobe will be back on top of the race.

    • Amgad Ragab

      Lebron is the best because hes doing things that kobe can only dream of doing at 25 YEARS OLD. Lebron is leading his UNSELFISHLY to the best team in the league at a very young age, has much better stats and athleticism and inside game than kobe, his supporting cast is clearly not as good as kobes, and they still beat the lakers twice this season. I know lebron haters and kobe fans are gonna say the same bullshit ( who has 4 rings, who scored 81 points). Well how bout this, whos played 14 seasons in the league? who had the most dominant center in NBA history on his team in his PRIME?
      kobe scored 81 in his 10th season. lebrons played seven and can score 81 if his mindset was ONLY on scoring instead of making his teammates better. Lebron would never throw his teammates under the bus or demand a trade like kobe did in 2007.
      You can read this comment and still be ignorant and say kobe is better than lebron, but I dont really give a shit because lebron is the best

      • http://lakersnation showtime4eva

        that dancing clown is a wannbe laker cause he cant win a title lol

      • http://lakersnation showtime4eva

        there’s been allot of good player’s in history barkley,ewing,wilkins so forth.then there’s the great one’s bird,magic,jordan,kareem.so forth,i think you get the picture.the great one’s have record’s and title’s.but kobe’s different.he’s above all these player’s!he’s been able to trump even the great one’s by beating all record’s an achieve the title as champ!faster and in record time.holding about every record an title there is!now you have lebron..hold’s no record’s or title’s.. thus far i’d say he is at best!just one of the good player’s.at his age kobe was already a three time champ and held most of these record’s and still climbing.so it’s simple to under stand and see how little you know the difference between good and great let alone the greatest! that’s what kobe is!

  • gugy

    All this BS will only fuel the fire on Kobe to make him get another ring while prince James just watch.

    We should be thankful for Mr. BS for this article. The more they glorify LBJ the more Kobe is focused to shut their mouths and prove otherwise.

  • zaytoven

    i really hope we man handle the cavs tomorrow. they’re really lucky kobes finger is messed up. lebronze will just have to wait til kobe retires.

  • dino

    kobe 5 rings

    • daboss1848

      robert horry has 7 rings

  • 242LakerFan

    I feel like taking a shower after reading that. HOLY CRAP!!!
    All that was missing were the phrases “tingle going up my leg” and “cum dribbling down my inseam”.
    That was a disgusting display of man-lust!
    If I were LeBron, I’d seriously be considering trying to get a restraining order. Don’t ever let this guy get an interview with LeBron or he might start humping his leg.
    What a load of absolute crap!
    Now, I don’t know if it has been mentioned already in the 50+ comments preceding this, but as much offense as I took to the Kobe comments, I was offended by the line about having to lose a little at first because Magic, among others, peaked as a player in their late 20′s. REALLY?? Magic, who played THE greatest single Playoff game in history as a ROOKIE against Philly? Magic, who won his team a Chip AS A ROOKIE?????
    NEVER EVER mention LeBron and Magic in the same breath when talking about comparing young players. Magic is the NBA’s ALL-TIME GREATEST ROOKIE!!!!
    If Simmons even dreams of besmirching the names of Magic and Kobe like that again, he better get on a plane, a boat or just swim his dried-up ass on down here to The Bahamas, apologize and kiss my fat butt!!!

  • mr.laker19

    Bill Simmons is the most bias azz hole in america. He is a known Celtics fan so why does anyone take him serious when talking lakers? He said he didnt think Kareem was so special? He said James Worthy is overrated. His opinion is worth as much as a grain of rice in china town. I hope his kids piss blood in their sleep

    • Craig

      So what if he is biased are you not biased. He has an opinion just like you

  • lex

    when ur comparing Kobe & Labron it’s not about numbers there two different animals Kobes ready to fire an kill anytime everyday allday Labron is more passive more like a stronger scottie pippen

  • Toni

    Are we starting this idiotic debate again?!?! – Like I have said many, many times, until “The King without the Ring” actually wins one, then we can have this discussion. … But until then, Prince James will just have to wiat until Kobe decides to pass the reign over to him!!!

  • lex

    when labron goes to the hole everybody moves out the way, when kobes goes to the hole they hack players in the nba know both are great but they don’t respect labron like they do kobe if kobe got 3 or 4 open dunks a game like wade or labron he would become extra hot and score 50 every nite.

    • Craig

      this has got to be one of the dumbest comments i have ever read. You must be like 8 yrs old or something

  • lex

    This isn’t even a discussion the only player you can compare kobe to is michael jordan.

  • Phil_WTF?

    Bill Simmons is an idiot… Kobe is clutch! He gets rings and thats all that matters!! This argument is dead cause they’ve already handed lebron the league and they let him do whatever he wants.

    • lex

      true that

  • Joelaker22

    I remember hearing this same kind of garbage when Vince Carter was in his prime. Chumps like Zo and half of the sports media drones were saying he was better than Kobe. These clowns will never learn.

    • lex

      and the sad thg about it is all those guyz are washed up and kobes still the best….thats funny michael jordan kobe bryant 1a & 1b.

  • lex

    who they need to compare is Wade and Labron because looking at it from a traditional standpoint wade would be better he avg right about the same in points with labron and he has a champion ring……………right

  • double

    this whole debate is pointless. As long as we’re winning, I don’t care who the best is (which is Kobe anyway).

  • keepon_keepinon18

    After reading all of this “love” for LeBron, I was surprised that Simmons actually wrote this bit in the article… “Right now, he doesn’t want it as badly as Jordan did or Kobe does. There’s more than a hint of Shaqitis with him, a feeling that LeBron wants to win but isn’t obsessed with winning….”

    What exactly does he meaning by this? The whole article involves him praising how good LeBron is but here, very subtly, introduces what really separates him from Kobe and even Jordan. From my perspective, it seems that its this quality plus the otherworldly talent that gives a player “command of the room.”

  • ahav05

    his initials stand for B.S. therefor anything he says is Bullshit

    • 242LakerFan

      Good point, if a bit awkwardly put. I guess all you can expect from BS is BS.

  • lakerbunny

    WHO’S BILLSIMMONS?

  • http://57.amklac laffs atu

    why don`t you tampons go buy some more kobe jerseys to pound off on..its a lebronze world…accept it.

    • http://TheLakersNation laffs atyo momma

      sure, its a lebronze world. everyone lives in NYC, all dance around to some bullshit team, wear bullshit shirts, nothing but bronze medals, suckin dick stern, suckin shaq.
      if thats what you mean by world, then sure, you world is a lebronze world too.
      tampons? you look like you could use some right now, or at least lebron can, that nigga is the biggest mother fucker ive seen, in fact, the world has ever seen. who knew the world would have some nigga so up himself, that he loves himself so much.

      man you are lebrons biggest bitch. saying that he owns the world and that its a lebron world has got to be the bitchiest thing ive ever heard before. you prolly some 12 year old white boy sitting in yo momma’s basement typin shit while ridin lebron because… its a lebron world.

      do yo self a favor, get the ruck off this site, and i swear, if i ever meet your white fucken face, i will beat the livin shit out of you til your savior lebron shows up to help you… or more likely dance on yo grave. man fuck if i can just meet you once, i will make it slow and painful, non stop whoopin. mother fucker you wanna talk shit about anyone, meet me somewhere and say it to my face, that way i know you have the balls (which you dont have) to say shit off the monitor.

      laffs atu? dont make me laffs. id spit atu if i ever get the chance to.

  • http://57.amklac laffs atu

    another classy RAIDER/LAKER kobe swallowing pos. kobe`s hurt again…east coast is laughing at u.

  • THE WARLOCK

    It is not a coincidence this BS dude is throwing his BS malarkey out there at the most opportunistic time in which Kobe is not physically sound and able to perform at the level ONLY KOBE CAN, and WAS performing just before the ‘break’ in the index finger of his dominant hand, not to mention shooting hand and normal handle, followed by other injuries just a couple of weeks ago… This is simply part of this court jester’s & his tampon’s campaign, to discredit Kobe and his MVP deserving status!

    Kobe was performing above and beyond anyone else in the league-(Including LeHype), prior to these injuries and will continue to do so once he is whole again! …Nobody in the league-(Especially LeHype), would even attempt, let alone consider, playing thru such injuries and suffering the consequences to his beloved STATS… Lest we forget how LeHype did not want to step on the court until the whittle finger of his NON-SHOOTING hand was completely healed, a couple years ago!

    …RolLiNg oN tHe fLoOr LaUghInG mY fReAkIn ‘PoSt’ oFf aT tHe EaSt CoAst TaMpoN…

  • http://TheLakersNation laffs atyo momma

    hell, id go for raiders over cavs anyday.
    east coast laughin? hahahha skinny ass white boy, west coast is laughin at the weak ass east side, with them bobcats at #5? ahahhahaha

    bobcats is the one team taht the cavs dont want in the playoffs. them niggas are already 2-1 against your bitch ass crabs.

    lakers hvae proven that they can beat anyone in the playoffs. they got swept by magic last year, then fucked them up in the finals…

    fuck you, fuck the crabs, fuck cleveland, fuck ohio, fuck you

  • http://57.amklac laffs atu

    bro ,you and faker nation are the reason we will not pass OBAMAMA, health care package…go get your welfare check.unemployment check.food stamps…baby boy….didn`t i see you on cops?

  • chamfer

    i wanna say to all yall who say lebron i wanna he is suppose to be better. and he is suppose to be the best to ever play when he retires. there is no one who was and proally never will as physically gifted as lebron hes strong quick he can pass drive on anyone he wants and can possibly gaurd anyone who wants to. as for kobe he is the best i have ever seen at HIS POSITION AND SIZE secondly he is clutch he can make any shot pn the court one inch of light and he breaks thru to amaze everyone who watches. with that said there really is no comparison but if u must compare take this in consideration. kobe is hurt. he his thumb is jacked up but he lead his team to the fnals and won. his index finger is jacked up and his team is still number one in the nba. he may be shooting for bad percentages but at the end there is no one else in the league who u will trust with the last play in the game to go for the win. meanwhile this all happening in the best conference the west. put them on the east i gaurantee they will kill. he will then have more chances to play a lower level of competition just like lebron. put lebron on the west and have him play teams such as the blazers spurs and the others who always seem to give good teams challenges. lastly these two are hardly comparable
    p.s. kobe came into the league when jordan was still fresh in the air so he will always have jordan to be compared to. and he came str8 out of high school when it really was as popular as today unlike lebron where high school players where more common and not looked down upon as much. and when he was drafted he got to watch kobe for years and learn from kobe how to play and handle the media and also he came to a team where he was immediately the MAN of his team.

  • http://TheLakersNation Marwan..

    I just wanna point something out now, that just came to my mind. Jordan is the best player ever, no doubt. The 72-10 Bulls was the greatest team ever. But think about it. They were in the EAST conference, otherwise known as the “easier” conference. If they were in the west, the would be in the early to mid 60s wins.
    Thats how I see it though, try to prove me otherwise, I wanna know.

    • Craig

      You need to check your history the east was the better conference at that time.

  • Philosophy 101

    Bill Simmons says what he thinks.
    Maybe he needs NBA league pass to be able to see the West Coast games since he lives in the East i bet.

    someone tell him he can steam the kobe games online for free to see basketball skills at its best.

    if you want to see power (same old) dunks then Lebron is the one!

  • Joshua Gurnick

    NO RING == NO KING

    you cant call Lebron a King when he has done nothing but win 1 MVP. If anyone is the KING it would be either Phil Jackson with 12 Nba Championships (2 as a player and 10 as a coach) or it would be Bill Russel (even though i hate the celtics) with 11 rings as a player.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbVEHJuA6iQ

    Even Sasha Vujacic has 1 ring, hahahahaha

    Kobe FOUR rings… lebron ZERO.
    NO RING == NO KING

    • Amgad Ragab

      Lebron is the best because hes doing things that kobe can only dream of doing at 25 YEARS OLD. Lebron is leading his UNSELFISHLY to the best team in the league at a very young age, has much better stats and athleticism and inside game than kobe, his supporting cast is clearly not as good as kobes, and they still beat the lakers twice this season. I know lebron haters and kobe fans are gonna say the same bullshit ( who has 4 rings, who scored 81 points). Well how bout this, whos played 14 seasons in the league? who had the most dominant center in NBA history on his team in his PRIME?
      kobe scored 81 in his 10th season. lebrons played seven and can score 81 if his mindset was ONLY on scoring instead of making his teammates better. Lebron would never throw his teammates under the bus or demand a trade like kobe did in 2007.
      You can read this comment and still be ignorant and say kobe is better than lebron, but I dont really give a shit because lebron is the best.

      • http://lakersnation showtime4eva

        your a dip shit..this site is for winnerr’s! be gone! loser! you’r dreaming! and blind and stupid!

      • http://lakersnation showtime4eva

        there’s been allot of good player’s in history barkley,ewing,wilkins so forth.then there’s the great one’s bird,magic,jordan,kareem.so forth,i think you get the picture.the great one’s have record’s and title’s.but kobe’s different.he’s above all these player’s!he’s been able to trump even the great one’s by beating all record’s an achieve the title as champ!faster and in record time.holding about every record an title there is!now you have lebron..hold’s no record’s or title’s.. thus far i’d say he is at best!just one of the good player’s.at his age kobe was already a three time champ and held most of these record’s and still climbing.so it’s simple to under stand and see how little you know the difference between good and great let alone the greatest! that’s what kobe is! lol,kid’s! lmao!

  • http://TheLakersNation Marwan..

    Who calls him a king? He called himself that. Now a mamba is more realistic, its characteristics and instincts can be mimicked, although no killing is actually necessary, Kobe has the killer instinct of a mamba and thats why he is called a mamba.
    Lebron cant be called a king because 1) he has no ring, 2) he has no ring and 3) he has no ring.

    • Green Flannel

      ha i thought you were gonna name three valid points but just one EXTREMELY important points

  • http://fuckyeahmarcomanipon.tumblr.com Marco Jose Manipon

    LeBron’s not on the best basketball team so who cares if he’s better than Kobe?

  • FLSH

    I don’t get it….. Kobe can’t be Michael because he’s got only 4 rings, 1 mvp, 1finals mvp and so on…. But LeBronze can be Kobe without a single ring?
    give me a break!!! Everyone’s sayin that kobe won’t approach Michael at least until he has 6 rings..I always say, to me Kobe-LeBron debate is dead until the queen gets atleast 4 rings

  • berkyberks

    right now yeah lebron is better I can accept that. Kobe is about 13 yrs. pro and 31 yrs. lebron is just on it’s 7th yr. pro and 25 yrs. old. But what has kobe had on its 7th yr. 3 rings 9 straight 40 pts. nba record 12 3′s a tons of buzzer beater and winning games. let lebron beat that 12 3′s in 1 game forgot to mentioned 9 consecutive 3′s. stats is good but records is records.

  • berkyberks

    well bill simmons tell your king to beat thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6TAFvXDFXs

  • berkyberks

  • mamba9381

    Everyone knows that Bill Simmons is a Kobe hater and a Celtics lover so I give absolutely NO credit to everything he says…

    In 10 years, when we look back, we will be able to compare the achievements anyway… And Kobe’s will be something like 7 titles – 32 000pts+ – an 81pt game – 2 gold olympic medals – 4 Finals MVP

    what do you think?

  • joshLA

    I read this today and thought lebrons DAD or WIFE wrote it. They guy utterly adores lbj (and probably would like to givem a bj). Its well written but chill out dude; lebrons is AMAZING but he described him like as if he were GOD and KOBE, melo, wade, and other guys didnt exist.

    KObes recent combination of injuries have hampered his play this month (no wonder this article didnt come out before jan 2nd) while lebron has coincidentally played great(er) this month. This leads to lebron has played better, now hes the best. kobes OVERALL game isnt surpassed thats y i still have kobe no.1 Lebron is the best ATHLETE and has improved greatly, but his footwork, postup game, midrange jumpshot, and killer mentality need to develop in order for me to say lebron is better. HEs close, no doubt; for january lebron has been better. Many announcers/espn guys have said the pst couple of mos that the argument is over and KOBE is better but this btch had to bring it up again. come on KAMLA even asked earlier this month if kobe has ever been better (he jinxed him bcuz he suffered more injuries since).

    conclusion; 24>23 for now….still yes (even though any given game lebron will play better and even though he was better last time clvland played but were talking overall).

    • http://theLakersNation PWNED

      or his mom wrote it after he told her “sit yo ass down” and write shit that makes me look better

  • likwidsage

    That’s gotta be the worst fanboy article ever. Lebron will do this and that and this and that…that’s all he said through out the article. I’ve been hearing the same thing for years now, let me know when it actually happens. People are so dumb, scoring 81 points isn’t just a matter of effort. Lebron himself said that scoring 50 is near impossible, imagine what he has to say about 80. Lebron has ALOT of catching up to do before we even compare them.

  • http://theLakersNation Marwan..

    24>23
    4>0
    K>L
    10>9 (Olympics)

  • ESPNGARBAGE

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

  • LEADERFISH

    Yes Lebron is better like Jerry West said the other day. It doesn’t matter though the Lakers are the better team.

  • http://lakersnation lebron all talk no action no title

    lebron should be checked for steroid use

  • Ted

    um guys, you are aware that Lebron IS better than Kobe and outside of LA, 80% of NBA fans think Lebron is better. It’s not even close. Please don’t bring up championships because without Gasol and Shaq, Kobe wasn’t anywhere near winning a championship. Stop being fanboys.

    • bostonSUCKS88

      You have to bring up championships. Winning is all that matters. Winning is more important than stats. You cant be the best until you can prove it on the big stage. Lebron hasnt done that yet. And saying that the only reason Kobe won is cuz he had shaq and gasol is stupid. Name me 1 team that has won a title with just 1 star. There arent any. Until Lebron wins a title, Kobe is still the best.

      • Amgad Ragab

        Lebron is the best because hes doing things that kobe can only dream of doing at 25 YEARS OLD. Lebron is leading his UNSELFISHLY to the best team in the league at a very young age, has much better stats and athleticism and inside game than kobe, his supporting cast is clearly not as good as kobes, and they still beat the lakers twice this season. I know lebron haters and kobe fans are gonna say the same bullshit ( who has 4 rings, who scored 81 points). Well how bout this, whos played 14 seasons in the league? who had the most dominant center in NBA history on his team in his PRIME?
        kobe scored 81 in his 10th season. lebrons played seven and can score 81 if his mindset was ONLY on scoring instead of making his teammates better. Lebron would never throw his teammates under the bus or demand a trade like kobe did in 2007.
        You can read this comment and still be ignorant and say kobe is better than lebron, but I dont really give a shit because lebron is best

        • http://lakersnation showtime4eva

          your a dip shit..this site is for winnerr’s! be gone! loser! you’r dreaming! and blind and stupid! moron!

        • http://lakersnation showtime4eva

          there’s been allot of good player’s in history barkley,ewing,wilkins so forth.then there’s the great one’s bird,magic,jordan,kareem.so forth,i think you get the picture.the great one’s have record’s and title’s.but kobe’s different.he’s above all these player’s!he’s been able to trump even the great one’s by beating all record’s an achieve the title as champ!faster and in record time.holding about every record an title there is!now you have lebron..hold’s no record’s or title’s.. thus far i’d say he is at best!just one of the good player’s.at his age kobe was already a three time champ and held most of these record’s and still climbing.so it’s simple to under stand and see how little you know the difference between good and great let alone the greatest! that’s what kobe is! do you understand now ? son.

  • Amgad Ragab

    Lebron is the best because hes doing things that kobe can only dream of doing at 25 YEARS OLD. Lebron is leading his UNSELFISHLY to the best team in the league at a very young age, has much better stats and athleticism and inside game than kobe, his supporting cast is clearly not as good as kobes, and they still beat the lakers twice this season. I know lebron haters and kobe fans are gonna say the same bullshit ( who has 4 rings, who scored 81 points). Well how bout this, whos played 14 seasons in the league? who had the most dominant center in NBA history on his team in his PRIME?
    kobe scored 81 in his 10th season. lebrons played seven and can score 81 if his mindset was ONLY on scoring instead of making his teammates better. Lebron would never throw his teammates under the bus or demand a trade like kobe did in 2007.
    You can read this comment and still be ignorant and say kobe is better than lebron, but I dont really give a shit because lebron is best.

    • http://lakersnation showtime4eva

      there’s been allot of good player’s in history barkley,ewing,wilkins so forth.then there’s the great one’s bird,magic,jordan,kareem.so forth,i think you get the picture.the great one’s have record’s and title’s.but kobe’s different.he’s above all these player’s!he’s been able to trump even the great one’s by beating all record’s an achieve the title as champ!faster and in record time.holding about every record an title there is!now you have lebron..hold’s no record’s or title’s.. thus far i’d say he is at best!just one of the good player’s.at his age kobe was already a three time champ and held most of these record’s and still climbing.so it’s simple to under stand and see how little you know the difference between good and great let alone the greatest! that’s what kobe is! understand now?punk.

    • jake

      you need to look at the bigger picture here. who is the best player in the league this season? Lebron no question for all the reasons you mentioned, hes unselfish and allows his role players to play their roles while kobe tends not to. however, who is the best player in the league? it has to be kobe, say what you want to say but lebron has simply not proven himself yet, and he will always have an asterisk by his name until he gets a ring. yes, kobe had shaq, but shaq also had kobe, that team needed kobe to get those three rings. if lebron retired today, hed be remembered as a great player, kobe would be remembered as a legend.

  • http://lakersnation showtime4eva

    your a dip shit..this site is for winnerr’s! be gone! loser! you’r dreaming! and blind and stupid! idiot

  • jake

    bill simmons arguing that lebron is better than kobe simply doesnt make sense by his own rules. in his book he talks about how when it comes down to it, you have to measure a player by rings because nothing matters more. how then can 0 ring lebron be better than 4 ring kobe?

  • sai

    please.. Lebron is all about the regular season, it’s all about him getting his stats look pretty. He doesn’t show up in the playoffs.. you know, WHEN IT MATTERS.

    He’s no better than Kobe in any way.. oh and don’t pull out that “he doesnt have good teammates” argument coz all i heard from the media is “the cavs will win the championship this year because now he has a championship team with jamison, williams, and shaq”

    Those “amazing stats” he had.. they don’t matter here. When the game is in the line.. what did he do? he dribbled the ball to eat up some time and then yes, passed it. HE DOES PASS THE BALL. COZ HE DOESNT WANT TO TAKE THE SHOT. COZ HE DOESNT WANT TO TAKE THE BLAME.
    Kobe won’t pass that ball, he’d rather take a contested shot because he knows what his role is on that team.

    and look where those 2 guys are now.. One is battling in the Finals, the other one is getting some drama with the free agency sh*t. If you’ve haven’t decided yet then STFU and come out when you finally have your decision.